| ross93 wrote: |
| agreed but i still like avatar better than Naruto simply because they get to the point quicker and dont dragg it out for 5-10 episodes !!!!! |
Agreed for decreasing number of episodes, but still not enough killings!
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| ross93 wrote: |
| agreed but i still like avatar better than Naruto simply because they get to the point quicker and dont dragg it out for 5-10 episodes !!!!! |
| ZazaReykjavik wrote: |
No offense, but the Avatar: The last airbender is more stupid than Naruto: all good side characters (with an exception for Toph maybe) have too much mercy (foolishness), forgiving their enemies and letting them live! They could kill their enemies on many occasions, but they didn't - so what the hell is going on? Fire Nation wiped Aang's people and he still can forgive them? They already have a chance to kill Azula, Ty Lee and many other s**t, why they didn't? Avatar has good conception but bad implementation! |
Firstly, it's a kids show so they can't have lots of killing. Secondly even if they could, they wouldn't because it goes against the entire pathos of the show. Avatar is about restoring balance to the world and going on a killing spree will not solve any problems. What the fire nation did was evil but that does not warrent murder, and besides most of the fire nation is oblivious to what really happened. Aang realises that most of the fire nation just wants to be happy and free, and the only way to give them freedom is to remove the fire lord from power, not go around senselessly killing people, that is what the fire nation did and look at what happened.
Anyway I would like to say Avatar is a piece of art, it is a truely epic fantacy story equal to the work of C S Lewis or JRR Tolkein. A good fantacy writer is capable of creating an entire world and this is what the writers of avatar have done. Funny how so many pieces of great literature were originally written for children.
Interesting, well here is my answers:
1. Showing violence to EVERYONE is the main modern purpose of the Hollywood (it's so called "Spreading of Californication"), and mentally stable people wouldn't create such movies (I mean - madness) as: Saw, Hostel, Doom, Resident Evil etc;
2. I do not mean that Aang must wipe the entire Fire Nation out: he has enemies (Ozai, Azula and her former underlings, Zuko (former), Zhao etc.) who make suffer the loss of his people and tried to kill his friends on many occasions and Aang can forgive them?
| bannerlovemarry wrote: |
| i agree that the fire lord should go down and Zhao had it coming but i disagree that azula and her friends should die, sure they were nasty but they never went on genocides like Sozin or Ozai, also she has been humanized somewhat in the third series and so i doubt they would kill her unless she dies helping out the gaang somehow. |
| ZazaReykjavik wrote: | ||
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Are you crazy? Here's a major oppurtinity for a significant and emotional plot twist! She must be converted instead! I really, really don't see her killing Aang again. It would just be interesting to see how this plays out...
Talking about how much Avatar means to me, I honmestly can't see my life without. I don't know what I'll do when all the episodes have aired, apart from maybe wait for the movie. It's so good, that as sson as I watched, most other animations seemed dulll and tiresome (even Dragon Ball Z, which I was obsessed about). Now I just can't get enough of Avatar and most other show seems bland.
It's also life changing. Weirdly, now every time I'm about to do something bad, I just imagine what one of the characters would do (Sokka mainly) and it stops me most of the time. I can honestly say it has made me a better person.
| ZazaReykjavik wrote: |
No offense, but the Avatar: The last airbender is more stupid than Naruto: all good side characters (with an exception for Toph maybe) have too much mercy (foolishness), forgiving their enemies and letting them live! They could kill their enemies on many occasions, but they didn't - so what the hell is going on? Fire Nation wiped Aang's people and he still can forgive them? They already have a chance to kill Azula, Ty Lee and many other s**t, why they didn't? Avatar has good conception but bad implementation! |
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| PsychoPass wrote: |
| Kids and teenagers of any genre or story killing their enemies violently (or killing them at all) doesn't look or seem right. Their journey isn't to kill or maim everyone that gets in there way, it's to end the war. While that does constitute "aggressive negotiations" it doesn't require the death of their enemies. |
| ZazaReykjavik wrote: | ||||
I don't consider mercy by itself as a part of foolishness: but if you are ready to spare life of someone, who caused death to someone you like or love, WHEN it is a foolishness! Mercy must not cross with madness - when enemy is alive, he or she can strike again! P.S: I have expected this question to be asked! P.P.S: That is why I admire Toph more than anyone else on the Avatar Team. |
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Blind like Toph?
P.S: tomtitan, I think you still don't get the difference between bringing revenge on someone who have done bad things to good (or at least not so bad guys) and causing good guys suffer!
| ZazaReykjavik wrote: | ||||||||
Blind like Toph? |
tomtitan, I think you still don't get the difference between bringing revenge on someone who have done bad things to good (or at least not so bad guys) and causing good guys suffer!
Sorry for off topic, but: how do you all think Aang is going to restore the Air Nomad people? I think airbending is restricted to to them, so the Avatar cycle might be broken, when it will it will come to another Air Nomad to become the Avatar? I don't think Aang and Katara's children would be enough for such a task, besides it is unknown what bending abilities their children will have?
