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How Many Of You Think That Aang died in the Avatar State????

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    truthfullysa

    [1]Dec 3, 2006
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    I was just wondering, how many people think that Aang died in the avatar state, because if he did then that would really piss me off, because:

    1. that would mean that he is??the last avatar and that the incarnations would stop coming. When does that happen anyways, when he beats the Fire Nations BUTT?! or what, does the new avatar just appear out of mid-air after Aang is done with his job. Do you think that, that's why the other avatar had a chance to fall in love with someone?

    2. the second reason would be because that would completely change the show, not in a good way, and i'm a big Zutara fan, though not as hard core as any of the other ones on this blog. but i also agree that Zutara or Kataang will??not happen, the creators just have a way of doing that. Will he be able to go into the Avatar state again, or will he have to find some other way to beat the fire nation.

    Just wanted to know what you people thought, because i didn't get to see the season finale all over again. Also what are threads and shippings.

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    Leodegarioiii

    [2]Dec 3, 2006
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    He NEVER DIED!! He was deadly wounded (he would have died without Katara) but he never died, that water can't resurrect people, this is not DBZ, besides if he had died that would mean the avatar cycle would be broken, wich means even if he had been resurrected he would not be able to display any avatar characteristics, and he DID!! After Katara healed him, he glowed!! THAT MEANS HE DID NOT DIE!?? So STOP SAYING HE DID .

    Also if he died, that would eliminate the "Avatar" factor og the show, there would be no avatars, wich would be kind of?? unlikely because the show is called "Avatar"

    Edited on 12/03/2006 7:34pm
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    PrimoNation

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    truthfullysa wrote:

    I was just wondering, how many people think that Aang died in the avatar state, because if he did then that would really piss me off, because:

    1. that would mean that he is??the last avatar and that the incarnations would stop coming. When does that happen anyways, when he beats the Fire Nations BUTT?! or what, does the new avatar just appear out of mid-air after Aang is done with his job. Do you think that, that's why the other avatar had a chance to fall in love with someone?

    2. the second reason would be because that would completely change the show, not in a good way, and i'm a big Zutara fan, though not as hard core as any of the other ones on this blog. but i also agree that Zutara or Kataang will??not happen, the creators just have a way of doing that. Will he be able to go into the Avatar state again, or will he have to find some other way to beat the fire nation.

    Just wanted to know what you people thought, because i didn't get to see the season finale all over again. Also what are threads and shippings.

    honestly... this has been just about over-anaylzed in the links to the 2 threads below

    Did Aang loose his Avatar powers???!!!

    OFFICIAL DISCUSSION: is the avatar cycle broken?

    and threads are what you are typing in and shippings are when you have 2 characters and you merge them together as a couple (i.e. Katanng = Katara & Aang)

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    Nalesnik

    [4]Dec 3, 2006
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    I think he did die, but I don't think he was completely in the avatar state, cause he didn't recieve the "cosmic energy"

    "threads" are something that you just made, a topic one posts on a forum

    and "shipping" are the pairing of two characters, like Zutara or Kataang. Like what you mention in your post
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    sluggmunki_tx

    [5]Dec 3, 2006
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    He can't die. It's Avatar!
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    threebrmsticks

    [6]Dec 3, 2006
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    oh for GODS SAKE! NO! whats so hard about understanding that he was about to die but katara healed him! *dies from annoyance*. sorry for being frustrated...
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    Leodegarioiii

    [7]Dec 3, 2006
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    threebrmsticks wrote:
    oh for GODS SAKE! NO! whats so hard about understanding that he was about to die but katara healed him! *dies from annoyance*. sorry for being frustrated...

    OMG thx!!!
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    Eman5805

    [8]Dec 3, 2006
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    Aang died and the water's special spiritual properties revived Aang. If Aang didn't die and that water didn't revive him, then what did Katara's water do? It didn't heal the wound at all, the water simply disappeared into Aang's body. So it just woke??Aang??up? Couldn't a slap on his face do the same thing?

    Dying then coming back??wouldn't break the Avatar cycle. If Aang dies the Avatar cycle is broken, but if Aang comes back why wouldn't the Avatar cycle do the same? They're both connected and share the same fate, and besides Aang's arrow did kinda glow when he came back...

    And don't even speak such blasphemy??mentioning??DBZ and Avatar in the same sentence(even now I feel wrong). Katara didn't wish Aang back and she won't be able to do it over and over again as she's out of the spirit oasis water. Not even close to DBZ.

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    Nalesnik

    [9]Dec 3, 2006
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    threebrmsticks wrote:
    oh for GODS SAKE! NO! whats so hard about understanding that he was about to die but katara healed him! *dies from annoyance*. sorry for being frustrated...


    From past expereince with the predictability of the show, I don't think your in a position to say that you are ultimately right. The creators have proven themselves to be quite tricky, and I for one won't make a 100% positive allegation about future events in avatar.
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    Bandage2

    [10]Dec 3, 2006
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    I've thought this over alot, and I've watched the last 3 minutes over 50 times, and this is what it seems like since there is def not a clear understanding of what happened. There are a few options...

    I don't think Aang was truly in the avatar state, I think he finally learned how to enter it but I think when he went up he wasn't in full control sorta like when u start ur car in the cold, u gotta let it heat up, and the window defrost...

    That being said, I think he was killed because everything on the show points to it, first of all the reference to dying in the avatar state, second- lightning.... third - the way the big avatar fell over, fourth - the music, fifth - Katara holding him like jesus, sixth - he wasn't breathing from when he got zapped till Katara revived him, seventh - Katara crying when her water did nothing for a second, those all point to him dying for at least a few minutes, you can die for a few minutes and not be truly dead, I think that's what happened to aang.

    Now, why the cycle wouldn't be broken- Aang wasn't in the full Avatar state is one option, the glow on his forehead from the water pretty much confirms the avatar spirit is still there, I guarantee it's not just his spirit cause??the moon spirit??didn't glow like that and have the glow noise of the avatar state...??I think it was more of a wakeup call for aang to master the avatar state itself and not just master the ability to enter it and float for 10 seconds basically saying "shoot me"..

    Another thing about the previous Avatar states he was in, and the avatar state the past avatars entered, Aang's previous states had him totally just super powerful with him glowing, because the avatars were controlling him. The past avatars had only their eyes glow for only 1 second- the air avatar's forehead didn't even glow when it demonstrated her... there was no huge light... that's why I think what aang did was the initiation to be able to enter it, it wasn't the real thing so technically he couldn't die in the avatar state cause he hadn't fully entered it.

    I don't think the cycle is broken, that would honestly make the show worse I think because he would have to win with smarts, and non avatar stuff, besides it IS called AVATAR the last airbender... I don't think he wouldn't be the avatar to end the last third of the show...

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    brookeishot

    [11]Dec 3, 2006
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    Alright after reading innumerable posts about this I have my own theory as to what happened. Aang, like others (in real world and Avatar presumably), was hit by lightning and put into a coma or sorts. The special properties of the oasis water not only healed his wound, but brought him out of the coma. Normal water would prolly just heal the wound, leaving him in a coma. So therefore I think that either he was dying or was put into a coma from the shock.

    As a side note, Azula has horrible aim.
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    Eman5805

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    brookeishot wrote:
    Alright after reading innumerable posts about this I have my own theory as to what happened. Aang, like others (in real world and Avatar presumably), was hit by lightning and put into a coma or sorts. The special properties of the oasis water not only healed his wound, but brought him out of the coma. Normal water would prolly just heal the wound, leaving him in a coma. So therefore I think that either he was dying or was put into a coma from the shock. As a side note, Azula has horrible aim.

    But, the water DIDN'T heal his wound. It was still there. The reason Katara started to cry was because the hole was still in Aang's back. The water went inside Aang's body....

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    Bandage2

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    well, the water didn't heal the wound... the wound was still there.

    I dun kno why Azula's aim is horrible, it seems like that was a pretty direct perfect placement shot except maybe the back of his head.

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    Kyusho-Jitsu

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    Eman5805 wrote:

    Aang died and the water's special spiritual properties revived Aang. If Aang didn't die and that water didn't revive him, then what did Katara's water do? It didn't heal the wound at all, the water simply disappeared into Aang's body. So it just woke??Aang??up? Couldn't a slap on his face do the same thing?

    Dying then coming back??wouldn't break the Avatar cycle. If Aang dies the Avatar cycle is broken, but if Aang comes back why wouldn't the Avatar cycle do the same? They're both connected and share the same fate, and besides Aang's arrow did kinda glow when he came back...

    And don't even speak such blasphemy??mentioning??DBZ and Avatar in the same sentence(even now I feel wrong). Katara didn't wish Aang back and she won't be able to do it over and over again as she's out of the spirit oasis water. Not even close to DBZ.

    So you're saying that if they were at the spirit oasis, they could die and be brought back to life numerous times? Mmhmm... well, there's??3 things wrong with your theory.

    1. That would be dumb. And it WOULD be like DBZ. (P.S. DBZ is a cool show in itself, it's just different from Avatar. It's not as good, but it's still good)

    2. Katara doesn't have reviving abilities. She has healing abilities. Jeong Jeong said so. And just because some water is spiritual doesn't mean that it's gonna revive you. It probably just means that it's gonna do a really good job at healing you.

    3. The Koi fish were??LIVING in the spirit oasis. Yet, when Zhao burned one, it didn't come back to life. You know why? Because it was DEAD and not just injured.

    I'm not saying that he didn't die. I'm just saying that your evidence is incorrect. There is evidence for both sides of the argument. I prefer to think that he didn't die, but I'm just going to wait until the next episode because I have learned that the writers are EXTREMELY good at giving surprises.

    EDIT: Also, Abraham Lincoln was shot in the back of the head, but he didn't die until the next morning, so you can't say that he must've died because he was shot by lightning.

    Edited on 12/03/2006 8:06pm
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    mch24

    [15]Dec 3, 2006
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    I think he was just seriously hurt, close to death but no there yet; the water just made aang wake up, but he wasn't dead yet.

    Aang I think did complete opening the last chakra and that's why he went out the rock thing he was in, but he was attacked from behind and he wasn't able to block the attack, plus now that i remember the past times he went into the avatar state a ball of wind surrounded Aang and this time it didn't maybe he was in control but was stopped in his tracks by azula

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    brookeishot

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    Head or heart...spine seems pointless. And lightning causes a burn mark, not a hole. So yeah it obviously did heal the wound, and by wound I mean the internal effects of being struck by lightning. I'm pretty sure that was just like ash or some other burn remnant. But I'm 98% sure sure lightning doesn't leave a hole in you.
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    Kyusho-Jitsu

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    Yea. Lightning is plasma, which is a form of matter. It is matter in itself, except EXTREMELY hot and has a very high electric charge. So basically what lightning is is exploding air, with the electric current being the guide and also a power upgrader.

    So yeah, lightning would leave no hole. Just a buncha burns and internal damage because of the electricity.

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    brookeishot

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    Kyusho-Jitsu wrote:

    Yea. Lightning is plasma, which is a form of matter. It is matter in itself, except EXTREMELY hot and has a very high electric charge. So basically what lightning is is exploding air, with the electric current being the guide and also a power upgrader.

    So yeah, lightning would leave no hole. Just a buncha burns and internal damage because of the electricity.



    Thanks for the proof.
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    Eman5805

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    So you're saying that if they were at the spirit oasis, they could die and be brought back to life numerous times?

    That isn't even what I said. Let me say what I said again.

    What else did the water do then? Katara doesn't have reviving abilities, she has healing. I know that, but she tried to heal him with oasis water that is connected to spirits. And Aang is the most spiritual being in the human world that isn't an actual spirit. I'm more than certain water with special spiritual properties could bring him back to life. Being in water doesn't heal you even if you aren't spiritual in the Avatar world. A healing Waterbender must use the water as a catalyst first. So just putting the koi fish back in the water wouldn't do anything. Katara didn't bother trying to heal the fish. I didn't say that so don't try to logically extend my words aight? If I had a theory I'd proabably make a thread about it. Trust me.

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    Kyusho-Jitsu

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    So it was KATARA'S FAULT THAT YUE DIED BWAHAHAHAHAA I KNEW SHE WAS EVIL!
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