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| dark_aquatus wrote: | ||||||||
Indeed, he WAS easy to manipulate. She said it herself, she's a 'people-person' which means she should've seen the transformation of Zuko. He's not the weak easily manipulated person anymore. Trusting on the fact that she could easily manipulate him when he got the throne and control him AND the nation that way, would've been a major mistake. I'm sorry, but I hardly see any 'base covering' in that :/ |
Azula's actually a blind Earthbender who can tell if someone is lying.
But seriously. Azula didn't know for sure. When she confronted Zuko about it, he remembered the Spirit Oasis water, and knew that there was a possibility that Aang could have been brought back. So when she asked if the Avatar could still be alive, he hesitated. Azula's not dumb, when she senses hesitation, she knows someone might be lying to her.
So when she told Ozai that Zuko was the one that killed the Avatar, she knew that there was a possibility that the Avatar could have been alive. She probably felt that there was more of a possibility that he was alive based on Zuko's reaction.
She is a people person after all.
| LeonMorado wrote: | ||||||||||
she didn't know aang was alive. she just knew it was a possibility. |
Zuko needed this inner strength to leave everything and everyone behind in the first place. It's not like he got it after he left them and joined the gAang, it's the other way around
Btw, she didn't act like she thought that the avatar being alive was just a 'possibility', go watch The Awakening to see for yourself.
| dark_aquatus wrote: |
| Since we have nothing better to do then talk and speculate for the next 2 months *snif* I guess I'll just tell you guys what's bothering me for a while now. In The Crossroads of Destiny, Zuko had to chose between saving Aang or letting him die, and he chose to let him die by his sisters hand. If not for the Spirit Water, Aang would've been dead right now. If Aang would've been dead without the Spirit Water, which he would have been, since he said that Katara literally saved his life cause he was ''gone'', how the hell could Azula know all along that he was alive (and I'm talking about the time that Zuko spend in his palace at his fathers right hand). We all know that Azula wants her brother down on his knees, and giving him the ''honor'' for killing the avatar would've helped her with that, cause when people would find out that the avatar was alive after all, they would crucify Zuko. Many of you would say that the Dai Lee were spying on Zuko and Katara when they were talking about the water after being thrown in the underground prison at Ba Sing Se, but I don't think that Azula would think that this ''spiritual water'', which might heal a scar, would be able to save someone's life by bringing someone back from the dead. You shouldn't forget that all she would have heard, if she DID send some Dai Lee agents over there to spy on them, was that this special water had a small chance of healing Zuko's scar... I guess it's needless to say that there's a pretty big difference between healing a scar and bringing someone back from the dead. What do you guys think? |
remember that there were sightings of aang in the Fire Nation so i bet that someone passed the info on to them
| raienbrasa wrote: |
| She read the other 10 threads/discussions on the subject. Srsly, tho, Zuzu gave it away. |
| dark_aquatus wrote: | ||
pls post the links to those threads so I can read some of them, maybe they say more then most people in this 'discussion' ^^ Btw picaboomman, I love your Avatar avatar. I guess it's part of the finale trailer? |
| raienbrasa wrote: | ||||
Zuko blowing it is kinda the consensus we've reached, although dudeguy up there ^ had a good point with the body-lacking. |
| dark_aquatus wrote: | ||||||
No links? To bad, I guess there aren't that many other threads with this subject as u mentioned before then... |
Well since Azula is the master of lying and deception it was probably easy for her to tell when she was talking to Zuko
"Who cares the avatar's dead"
Zuko looks away looking unsure
Azula notices this
"unless he somehow miraculously survived"
flashback of spirit oasis water
"no there's no way he could have survived"
"well then you have nothing to worry about then"
I didn't really make this clear in my post but I think she probably only suspected he could have been alive. I'm paraphrasing here but she said as much in DoBS when she saw the avatar and said something 'like I thought you might have survived' not 'oh please I knew you were alive all along and now I'm going to burn eyes out and dance nakid over your still burning embers' (sorry abstract quote I could not resist).
(Edit: She might have lied but I'm not sure I'd see the point unless she was protecting someone)
It certainly made sense to set Zuko up as the fall guy just in case, whether its true or not, as it gives her something over him and lets face it there was never much danger of Zuko succeeding her to the throne, given her temperament, as I'm sure she could have dealt with him somehow... backstabbing your close family relatives for power certainly isn't new to their family is it
| dark_aquatus wrote: |
Since we have nothing better to do then talk and speculate for the next 2 months *snif* I guess I'll just tell you guys what's bothering me for a while now. In The Crossroads of Destiny, Zuko had to chose between saving Aang or letting him die, and he chose to let him die by his sisters hand. If not for the Spirit Water, Aang would've been dead right now. If Aang would've been dead without the Spirit Water, which he would have been, since he said that Katara literally saved his life cause he was ''gone'', how the hell could Azula know all along that he was alive (and I'm talking about the time that Zuko spend in his palace at his fathers right hand). We all know that Azula wants her brother down on his knees, and giving him the ''honor'' for killing the avatar would've helped her with that, cause when people would find out that the avatar was alive after all, they would crucify Zuko. Many of you would say that the Dai Lee were spying on Zuko and Katara when they were talking about the water after being thrown in the underground prison at Ba Sing Se, but I don't think that Azula would think that this ''spiritual water'', which might heal a scar, would be able to save someone's life by bringing someone back from the dead. You shouldn't forget that all she would have heard, if she DID send some Dai Lee agents over there to spy on them, was that this special water had a small chance of healing Zuko's scar... I guess it's needless to say that there's a pretty big difference between healing a scar and bringing someone back from the dead. What do you guys think? |
| dark_aquatus wrote: |
| Zuko had to chose between saving Aang or letting him die, and he chose to let him die by his sisters hand. |
This what really happened. Azula knew if she screwed with Zuko, acting like she knew about Aang, he'd confront her. And to her enjoyment, and hope, he confronted her in her bedroom.
It was all part of her master incest plan. Why else do you think she c*ckblocked Mai?
