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isabelwhatx
[1]Jun 7, 2008
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I mean, time and again she's kept him from doing what's right because he's been preoccupied with trying to do what's best for her. She kept him from embracing full control of the avatar state, he had to save her in The Runaway. She did save him in some ways, with healing him and bringing him back to the world, but she's also brought him down. Comments?
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Energyfire10
[2]Jun 7, 2008
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No, I thing Katara is better without Aang.
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isabelwhatx
[3]Jun 7, 2008
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Energyfire10 wrote:

No, I thing Katara is better without Aang.

Why would you say that? He got her to leave her little town. He got her water bending lessons from one of the greatest water benders. He made her tiny, insignificant dreams come true.
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amdragfreak
[4]Jun 7, 2008
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I think they don't belong together...period.
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MaddoKos
[5]Jun 7, 2008
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I've said before that Aang will have to use the Avatar State to defeat Ozai. Thus, he'll need to give up Katara.
So the short answer is "yes."
*dives out of the way of the oncoming horde of Zutarians*
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picaboomman
[6]Jun 7, 2008
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to the thread: no. he would have died she wasnt there
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MaddoKos
[7]Jun 7, 2008
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picaboomman wrote:

to the thread: no. he would have died she wasnt there

The only reason he almost died at the end of season 2 was because he chose to go after Katara when he should have been mastering the Avatar State.

If he'd chosen non-attachment, like a good little yogi, the war would be over by now.
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isabelwhatx

[8]Jun 7, 2008

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MaddoKos wrote:

picaboomman wrote:

to the thread: no. he would have died she wasnt there

The only reason he almost died at the end of season 2 was because he chose to go after Katara when he should have been mastering the Avatar State.

If he'd chosen non-attachment, like a good little yogi, the war would be over by now.

Exactly. He wouldn't have been down there if SHE wasn't there. Everything kind of leads to her... The avatar shouldn't have attachments when he needs to do his duty.

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yoyorey2025
[9]Jun 7, 2008
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No...Without aang katara wouldn't go on a journey in which she would get to know zuko...
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Ravel93
[10]Jun 7, 2008
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Aang definitely needs her. Without Katara, Aang would still be in the iceberg.
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isabelwhatx
[11]Jun 7, 2008
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Ravel93 wrote:

Aang definitely needs her. Without Katara, Aang would still be in the iceberg.

Yeah, but anyone could've discovered him. It wasn't her especially, you know?
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suss2it

[12]Jun 7, 2008

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isabelwhatx wrote:

Ravel93 wrote:

Aang definitely needs her. Without Katara, Aang would still be in the iceberg.

Yeah, but anyone could've discovered him. It wasn't her especially, you know?

There were no more waterbenders left in the South Pole.

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isabelwhatx

[13]Jun 7, 2008

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suss2it wrote:

isabelwhatx wrote:

Ravel93 wrote:

Aang definitely needs her. Without Katara, Aang would still be in the iceberg.

Yeah, but anyone could've discovered him. It wasn't her especially, you know?

There were no more waterbenders left in the South Pole.

All I'm trying to say is she isn't all that special. And yes, he needed her for that, but why did she have to come with him? Even though she helped him in that one way, her other actions are making that one insignificant and she's HURTING him. She's taking stuff away from him. She's putting him in more danger than he needs to be.

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MaddoKos

[14]Jun 7, 2008

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isabelwhatx wrote:

Ravel93 wrote:

Aang definitely needs her. Without Katara, Aang would still be in the iceberg.

Yeah, but anyone could've discovered him. It wasn't her especially, you know?

I don't know, I mean she was the only surviving waterbender on the south pole. Smells like fate to me.

And if she was inadvertantly responsible for putting Aang in situation where he was blasted in the back by Azula, she did kind of make of for it by healing him.

She also was able to pull him back from the brink after Appa got stolen.

I kind of see her as Aang's shakti, feminine energy, which has both creative and delusive power.

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xRamensx
[15]Jun 7, 2008
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Katara does this because she doesn't know that Aang needs to let her go. If he just told her, I'm sure she'd understand in a heartbeat.
But the giving up thing doesn't mean he has to stop loving her all together, he just can't emotionally attach himself to her when the world needs to be saved or something.
Look at Ta Min, she and Roku obviously loved each other, but when the time came, Ta Min had to know when give him up. Same goes for Katara, she has to know when to give up Aang, and Aang has to know when to give up Katara. If Katara wasn't there, I think Aang would have gone insane a while ago.
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suss2it

[16]Jun 7, 2008

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isabelwhatx wrote:

suss2it wrote:

isabelwhatx wrote:

Ravel93 wrote:

Aang definitely needs her. Without Katara, Aang would still be in the iceberg.

Yeah, but anyone could've discovered him. It wasn't her especially, you know?

There were no more waterbenders left in the South Pole.

All I'm trying to say is she isn't all that special. And yes, he needed her for that, but why did she have to come with him? Even though she helped him in that one way, her other actions are making that one insignificant and she's HURTING him. She's taking stuff away from him. She's putting him in more danger than he needs to be.

Bringing him out of a 100 year slumber to save the world can't be made insignificant by Aang's choices. Without Katara who would continue teaching him to waterbend? And what danger did she put him in, that wasn't a consequence of his own direct decision?

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MaddoKos

[17]Jun 7, 2008

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xRamensx wrote:

Katara does this because she doesn't know that Aang needs to let her go. If he just told her, I'm sure she'd understand in a heartbeat.

But the giving up thing doesn't mean he has to stop loving her all together, he just can't emotionally attach himself to her when the world needs to be saved or something.

Look at Ta Min, she and Roku obviously loved each other, but when the time came, Ta Min had to know when give him up. Same goes for Katara, she has to know when to give up Aang, and Aang has to know when to give up Katara. If Katara wasn't there, I think Aang would have gone insane a while ago.

Thank you, Ramens, you summed up my thoughts much more clearly than I could have.

The problem is I don't think Aang knows (or doesn't want to admit) that he can't emotionally attach himself to her.

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isabelwhatx

[18]Jun 7, 2008

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MaddoKos wrote:

xRamensx wrote:

Katara does this because she doesn't know that Aang needs to let her go. If he just told her, I'm sure she'd understand in a heartbeat.

But the giving up thing doesn't mean he has to stop loving her all together, he just can't emotionally attach himself to her when the world needs to be saved or something.

Look at Ta Min, she and Roku obviously loved each other, but when the time came, Ta Min had to know when give him up. Same goes for Katara, she has to know when to give up Aang, and Aang has to know when to give up Katara. If Katara wasn't there, I think Aang would have gone insane a while ago.

THAT'S WHAT I MEAN! Ahahaha. She's great, but not when it comes down to it. Without her, I think Aang would've defeated the fire lord by now, honestly. But that's just my opinion.

Thank you, Ramens, you summed up my thoughts much more clearly than I could have.

The problem is I don't think Aang knows (or doesn't want to admit) that he can't emotionally attach himself to her.

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xRamensx

[19]Jun 7, 2008

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MaddoKos wrote:

xRamensx wrote:

Katara does this because she doesn't know that Aang needs to let her go. If he just told her, I'm sure she'd understand in a heartbeat.

But the giving up thing doesn't mean he has to stop loving her all together, he just can't emotionally attach himself to her when the world needs to be saved or something.

Look at Ta Min, she and Roku obviously loved each other, but when the time came, Ta Min had to know when give him up. Same goes for Katara, she has to know when to give up Aang, and Aang has to know when to give up Katara. If Katara wasn't there, I think Aang would have gone insane a while ago.

Thank you, Ramens, you summed up my thoughts much more clearly than I could have.

The problem is I don't think Aang knows (or doesn't want to admit) that he can't emotionally attach himself to her.

Aang is only 12/13. When the Guru told him to give up his Earthly attachments, he heard "You can never love Katara!" He took it the wrong way and messed up.

Aang being shot by Azula wasn't Katara's fault at all. In fact, they might have been in a worse situation if Katara wasn't there; she put up an amazing fight against Azula, and Aang would have stayed dead if Katara wasn't there to heal him.

Without Katara, Aang would still be in that iceberg, and the world would be even more messed up. So Katara plays a huge part in the show.

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isabelwhatx

[20]Jun 7, 2008

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xRamensx wrote:

MaddoKos wrote:

xRamensx wrote:

Katara does this because she doesn't know that Aang needs to let her go. If he just told her, I'm sure she'd understand in a heartbeat.

But the giving up thing doesn't mean he has to stop loving her all together, he just can't emotionally attach himself to her when the world needs to be saved or something.

Look at Ta Min, she and Roku obviously loved each other, but when the time came, Ta Min had to know when give him up. Same goes for Katara, she has to know when to give up Aang, and Aang has to know when to give up Katara. If Katara wasn't there, I think Aang would have gone insane a while ago.

Thank you, Ramens, you summed up my thoughts much more clearly than I could have.

The problem is I don't think Aang knows (or doesn't want to admit) that he can't emotionally attach himself to her.

Aang is only 12/13. When the Guru told him to give up his Earthly attachments, he heard "You can never love Katara!" He took it the wrong way and messed up.

Aang being shot by Azula wasn't Katara's fault at all. In fact, they might have been in a worse situation if Katara wasn't there; she put up an amazing fight against Azula, and Aang would have stayed dead if Katara wasn't there to heal him.

Without Katara, Aang would still be in that iceberg, and the world would be even more messed up. So Katara plays a huge part in the show.

But he wouldn't have been down there if Katara wasn't down there, remember that. They just shouldn't be so close. It's creating huge problems that are effecting Aang's decisions.

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