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Did anyone feel bad for Azula in the end?

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    speechless8582

    [41]Jul 23, 2008
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    LondonParisNYC wrote:
    speechless8582 wrote:
    LondonParisNYC wrote:

    Azula and her father were basically the same person.

    i can agree with that. DoBS showed their similarities perfectly.

    yeah we agree on something! *buys a cake*

    hahaha.
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    Ashley11292

    [42]Jul 23, 2008
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    No. She should've DIED!!!!
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    Kristy101

    [43]Jul 23, 2008
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    Ashley11292 wrote:
    No. She should've DIED!!!!

    Died because she had set herself to a life of misunderstanding? We all make mistakes, some larger than others, but Azula showed that she had a heart by breaking down because she lost her friends along with loosing her life style. Her past needs to die, not her in general.

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    Undead_Prince

    [44]Jul 23, 2008
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    I'm just hoping there's going to be some closure with regard to Azula, Ursa, and Zuko. This girl is just so... moe when she's crying with despair. She offered us almost every form of villainy known to man, from Calculating Villain to Sympathetic to Ax-Crazy Psycho, and did so impeccably. She deserves some love, from her mom but mostly I think from her brother. I mean, she has quite a fixation on "Zuzu". If the two of them could only resolve the tension in a passionate embrace... And really, Mai's just too plain/boring for Zuko. So yeah. Azula forever.
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    tomtitan

    [45]Jul 23, 2008
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    The problem she had was that she couldn't appreciate the fact that Ursa really did love her. Azula thought that because Ursa saw so many bad things in her it meant that Ursa didn't love her, when really she did, Ursa loves Azula unconditionally, as a mother should. I think she did know it, as she hallucinated Ursa saying it, but maybe she didn't want to believe it.

    Either way, after her friends (and let's not forget her own brother) betrayed her she felt paranoid, like she had to control everyone through fear. She really started to lose it when she 'spoke' to Ursa though.

    In the end, I do feel slightly sorry for her, it wasn't entirely her fault. Maybe what Zuko said to Ozai can apply to Azula too. Maybe her time in prison (since that's almost definitely where she is) will set her on the right path.
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    skye3001

    [46]Jul 23, 2008
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    She didn't start to control everybody through fear after her friends left her. She controlled people through fear all her life. She was betrayed by her friends and felt vulnerable to everybody else, which is why she banished all the people in the kingdom who could've possibly betrayed her, isolating herself.
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    Halostar11

    [47]Jul 23, 2008
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    I felt bad for her when she was flaming out of her mouth and she was on the ground crying. It sent pity shivers down my spine. So yeah, she has done some horrible things, but going insane is enough punishment.
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    music4life17

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    tomtitan wrote:
    The problem she had was that she couldn't appreciate the fact that Ursa really did love her. Azula thought that because Ursa saw so many bad things in her it meant that Ursa didn't love her, when really she did, Ursa loves Azula unconditionally, as a mother should. I think she did know it, as she hallucinated Ursa saying it, but maybe she didn't want to believe it.

    Either way, after her friends (and let's not forget her own brother) betrayed her she felt paranoid, like she had to control everyone through fear. She really started to lose it when she 'spoke' to Ursa though.

    In the end, I do feel slightly sorry for her, it wasn't entirely her fault. Maybe what Zuko said to Ozai can apply to Azula too. Maybe her time in prison (since that's almost definitely where she is) will set her on the right path.


    Mmhmm. I agree in that the lack of control she had over the whole situation made her loose it.
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    toosmooth

    [49]Jul 23, 2008
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    Feel bad for a controlling, unstable, hallucinating, power-hungry, egomaniac? Pft. Of course I do.
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    hkulka2974

    [50]Jul 23, 2008
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    i felt bad that there's no insane asylum in the avatar where she can live in peace.
    Edited on 07/23/2008 8:45am
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    PsychoPass

    [51]Jul 23, 2008
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    I don't believe that her fit at the end was an act of insanity like everyone thinks. It was more of an uncontrollable emotional spasm.
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    Breaker94

    [52]Jul 23, 2008
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    i didnt feel bad for her cuz shes insane
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    esquisofrenic

    [53]Jul 23, 2008
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    poor azula a girl with a great potential ended like a that...insane girl -_-
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    ChibiMaddiChan

    [54]Jul 23, 2008
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    My favorite scene in the entire finale was her completely snapping and breathing fire while sobbing. I actually felt horribly sorry for her. For practically two seasons, the show has shown that Azula is a juggernut of a villian: beautiful, intellegent, cunning, manipulative, fearsome, and on top of all of that, she's a hell of a fighter. And she's been treated as such for a majority of her life.

    Then to see it all unwind the way it did and see the process of her own madness and nature finally getting the best of her made for a great emotional scene when she just completely lost it. I think the part with her mother was very telling, as was her ref. to Ty Lee and Mai betraying her: I think to some degree, Azula actually saw the pair as her 'friends', or at least, her concept of them, and when they defied her will, more so (I think in Mai's degree) for Zuko, the 'outcast' of the family, it hurt her deeply. As well as when her father decided to leave her behind and she demanded not to be treated like Zuko: I think that was very telling as well. In a sense, she was just like Zuko: always striving to be in her father's good light, wanting to be his favorite. She always was mind you, so I suppose when it seemed like his faith in her had faultered, it only made her own self doubt and loathing worse. Sure, getting Fire Lord was nice, but I think it still bothered her that he wouldn't take her with him.

    Azula was a horrible person, a spoiled brat that was use to getting her way and upholding herself to ridiculously high expectations of herself (she seemed to be a bit of a perfectionist too). She had someone that could have shown her a better path (her mother) but I honestly believe she had something to do with getting rid of her (whether it be banishment or otherwise) and to a degree, I honestly believe she's regretted it, somwhere deep down. And her father...honestly, his 'love' seems to come with how much you can 'please' him. She learned the concept of 'love' and all other such feelings from him, and suffered greatly for it in the end.

    I can't help but feel sorry for Azula in the end.

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    LondonParisNYC

    [55]Jul 23, 2008
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    Kristy101 wrote:

    Ashley11292 wrote:
    No. She should've DIED!!!!

    Died because she had set herself to a life of misunderstanding? We all make mistakes, some larger than others, but Azula showed that she had a heart by breaking down because she lost her friends along with loosing her life style. Her past needs to die, not her in general.

    Showed heart? Azula had a phycological break. Whatever accute paranoia disorder she had finally got to her and caused in to crack. If anything it was to show how inhuman she was, basically the opposite have "heart."

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    LondonParisNYC

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    ChibiMaddiChan wrote:

    Azula was a horrible person, a spoiled brat that was use to getting her way and upholding herself to ridiculously high expectations of herself (she seemed to be a bit of a perfectionist too). She had someone that could have shown her a better path (her mother) but I honestly believe she had something to do with getting rid of her (whether it be banishment or otherwise) and to a degree, I honestly believe she's regretted it, somwhere deep down. And her father...honestly, his 'love' seems to come with how much you can 'please' him. She learned the concept of 'love' and all other such feelings from him, and suffered greatly for it in the end.

    I can't help but feel sorry for Azula in the end.

    She didn't have anything deep down inside, because she was raised as a product of her enviroment. THe extreme pressure from her father at such a young age made her disassociate fear and trust. She knows nothing other than what she does, and for that she is a very honest character. But deep down inside is misunderstanding, not heart or goodness. She is a clone of her father. It's undeniable that they are the same person.

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    LondonParisNYC

    [57]Jul 23, 2008
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    Breaker94 wrote:
    i didnt feel bad for her cuz shes insane

    finally someone agrees with me xD

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    ChibiMaddiChan

    [58]Jul 23, 2008
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    LondonParisNYC wrote:
    ChibiMaddiChan wrote:

    Azula was a horrible person, a spoiled brat that was use to getting her way and upholding herself to ridiculously high expectations of herself (she seemed to be a bit of a perfectionist too). She had someone that could have shown her a better path (her mother) but I honestly believe she had something to do with getting rid of her (whether it be banishment or otherwise) and to a degree, I honestly believe she's regretted it, somwhere deep down. And her father...honestly, his 'love' seems to come with how much you can 'please' him. She learned the concept of 'love' and all other such feelings from him, and suffered greatly for it in the end.

    I can't help but feel sorry for Azula in the end.

    She didn't have anything deep down inside, because she was raised as a product of her enviroment. THe extreme pressure from her father at such a young age made her disassociate fear and trust. She knows nothing other than what she does, and for that she is a very honest character. But deep down inside is misunderstanding, not heart or goodness. She is a clone of her father. It's undeniable that they are the same person.

    The only reason I think there is something there was because of the scene with her mother. The way she reacted to her mother's words (more so if the entire part was just in her head) and the fact that she started to cry after made me think there might have been regrette. I don't deny that she's just like her father (just less stable I believe) but her mother was part of her life and there coud have had some impact, none of which mattered in the end considering for the majority of her life, her father has been her pillar parent it seems. That and the fact that Mai and Ty Lee betrayed her honestly seemed to bother her greatly.

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    fergie1616

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    I felt bad for her. Azula was so perfectly evil and my favourite character until the end of Boiling Rock. I was kinda hoping she would accidently kill herself with lightning in the end but instead we have no idea what happened to her.
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    Undead_Prince

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    fergie1616 wrote:
    I felt bad for her. Azula was so perfectly evil and my favourite character until the end of Boiling Rock. I was kinda hoping she would accidently kill herself with lightning in the end but instead we have no idea what happened to her.


    She was your favourite character AND you were hoping she'd kill herself in the end?? Something is seriously wrong up there!

    No, really, the ending Azula got was way fitting, and in some ways even better than what I'd hoped for. I hoped she'd stay evil until the end and put up a good fight, but she really took evil to a whole new level with that psycho bat-sh*t crazy thing, almost killed Zuko AND Katara, never turned good, STILL did't die, and even kept her bending. I say that's a pretty good score for her; anything more and it wouldn't have been as satisfying for the heroes. She's also progressed far as a sympathetic and well-developed character. Also, Azula is NOT a clone of her father. She's too emotionally dependant on people to be the 100% perfect sociopath that is Ozai.
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