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Did anyone feel bad for Azula in the end?

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    LondonParisNYC

    [21]Jul 22, 2008
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    dark_aquatus wrote:
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    i found it very symbolic that she was incrontrol her entire life (good example is one of her first lines "do the tides comand this ship) and that in the end she lost her sanity from lack of control, i was almost in tears

    it was a happy ending for her in the fact that she joined ti lee as a kyoshi warrior
    Wow, you really should watch the end of the finaly again rofl Guess you haven't payed enough attention?

    how is that symbolic? it's more ironic. and she was never really in control.

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    speechless8582

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    LondonParisNYC wrote:
    dark_aquatus wrote:
    Writer1 wrote:

    i found it very symbolic that she was incrontrol her entire life (good example is one of her first lines "do the tides comand this ship) and that in the end she lost her sanity from lack of control, i was almost in tears

    it was a happy ending for her in the fact that she joined ti lee as a kyoshi warrior
    Wow, you really should watch the end of the finaly again rofl Guess you haven't payed enough attention?

    how is that symbolic? it's more ironic. and she was never really in control.
    how was she not in control in CoD? She was completely in control of the Dai Li and of the earth kingdom.
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    LondonParisNYC

    [23]Jul 22, 2008
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    speechless8582 wrote:
    LondonParisNYC wrote:
    dark_aquatus wrote:
    Writer1 wrote:

    i found it very symbolic that she was incrontrol her entire life (good example is one of her first lines "do the tides comand this ship) and that in the end she lost her sanity from lack of control, i was almost in tears

    it was a happy ending for her in the fact that she joined ti lee as a kyoshi warrior
    Wow, you really should watch the end of the finaly again rofl Guess you haven't payed enough attention?

    how is that symbolic? it's more ironic. and she was never really in control.
    how was she not in control in CoD? She was completely in control of the Dai Li and of the earth kingdom.

    No. She was always a product of her enviorment. From being raised under that much pressure gave her some sort of accute paranoia disorder not to mention a disassociation with fear and trust.

    Edited on 07/22/2008 10:29pm
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    dark_aquatus

    [24]Jul 22, 2008
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    Yes, just like she joined the Kyoshi Warriors hehe...
    Seriously dude..
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    CorpseVendor

    [25]Jul 22, 2008
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    I didn't care much for her in the series. She was a stuck up, spoiled, power hungry b****. But when saw her break down into tears when she was defeated I kinda felt sorry for her and said to myself "awwe all she needs is a hug and someone to love her."

    Hopefully someone will help her out.
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    LondonParisNYC

    [26]Jul 22, 2008
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    CorpseVendor wrote:
    I didn't care much for her in the series. She was a stuck up, spoiled, power hungry b****. But when saw her break down into tears when she was defeated I kinda felt sorry for her and said to myself "awwe all she needs is a hug and someone to love her." Hopefully someone will help her out.

    but her complete lack of human emotions made her such a great character. She was dark part of Zuko.

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    american43

    [27]Jul 22, 2008
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    that's just how the cookie crumbles,

    onto the floor attracting ants until everything is gone but the ants
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    LondonParisNYC

    [28]Jul 23, 2008
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    american43 wrote:
    that's just how the cookie crumbles, onto the floor attracting ants until everything is gone but the ants

    what????? where did that metaphor come from?

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    Jackson5050

    [29]Jul 23, 2008
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    The adage that you reap what you sow comes to mind when I think of Azula's fate. However, I felt pity for Azula. I did not see her as the self-proclaimed monster. No, I saw her as Ursa saw here; a confused woman who was hurt and probably suffered from hormonal imbalances.
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    LondonParisNYC

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    Jackson5050 wrote:
    The adage that you reap what you sow comes to mind when I think of Azula's fate. However, I felt pity for Azula. I did not see her as the self-proclaimed monster. No, I saw her as Ursa saw here; a confused woman who was hurt and probably suffered from hormonal imbalances.

    hormonal imabalence? try accute paranoia and an extreme disassociation between fear and trust. lol a hormonal imbalence is not to blame nor what she had.

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    Jackson5050

    [31]Jul 23, 2008
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    LondonParisNYC wrote:

    Jackson5050 wrote:
    The adage that you reap what you sow comes to mind when I think of Azula's fate. However, I felt pity for Azula. I did not see her as the self-proclaimed monster. No, I saw her as Ursa saw here; a confused woman who was hurt and probably suffered from hormonal imbalances.

    hormonal imabalence? try accute paranoia and an extreme disassociation between fear and trust. lol a hormonal imbalence is not to blame nor what she had.
    I would also postulate that she suffered from chronic PMS.
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    LondonParisNYC

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    Jackson5050 wrote:
    LondonParisNYC wrote:

    Jackson5050 wrote:
    The adage that you reap what you sow comes to mind when I think of Azula's fate. However, I felt pity for Azula. I did not see her as the self-proclaimed monster. No, I saw her as Ursa saw here; a confused woman who was hurt and probably suffered from hormonal imbalances.

    hormonal imabalence? try accute paranoia and an extreme disassociation between fear and trust. lol a hormonal imbalence is not to blame nor what she had.
    I would also postulate that she suffered from chronic PMS.

    hahaha probably. she was like a criminal profiling nightmare.

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    LondonParisNYC wrote:
    speechless8582 wrote:
    LondonParisNYC wrote:
    dark_aquatus wrote:
    Writer1 wrote:

    i found it very symbolic that she was incrontrol her entire life (good example is one of her first lines "do the tides comand this ship) and that in the end she lost her sanity from lack of control, i was almost in tears

    it was a happy ending for her in the fact that she joined ti lee as a kyoshi warrior
    Wow, you really should watch the end of the finaly again rofl Guess you haven't payed enough attention?

    how is that symbolic? it's more ironic. and she was never really in control.
    how was she not in control in CoD? She was completely in control of the Dai Li and of the earth kingdom.

    No. She was always a product of her enviorment. From being raised under that much pressure gave her some sort of accute paranoia disorder not to mention a disassociation with fear and trust.

    what? how come i'm always disagreeing with you.
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    LondonParisNYC

    [34]Jul 23, 2008
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    speechless8582 wrote:
    LondonParisNYC wrote:
    speechless8582 wrote:
    LondonParisNYC wrote:
    dark_aquatus wrote:
    Writer1 wrote:

    i found it very symbolic that she was incrontrol her entire life (good example is one of her first lines "do the tides comand this ship) and that in the end she lost her sanity from lack of control, i was almost in tears

    it was a happy ending for her in the fact that she joined ti lee as a kyoshi warrior
    Wow, you really should watch the end of the finaly again rofl Guess you haven't payed enough attention?

    how is that symbolic? it's more ironic. and she was never really in control.
    how was she not in control in CoD? She was completely in control of the Dai Li and of the earth kingdom.

    No. She was always a product of her enviorment. From being raised under that much pressure gave her some sort of accute paranoia disorder not to mention a disassociation with fear and trust.

    what? how come i'm always disagreeing with you.

    lol, i have no idea. we are two very differnent people i guess. why are you disagreeing with me this time lol?

    Edited on 07/22/2008 11:48pm
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    AnimeLover92

    [35]Jul 23, 2008
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    I felt terrible for azula...I mean being pressured by her father to be perfect really screwed her up mentally, but I guess her mental break down was unavoidable in order for her to realize what she was doing wrong in her life. I really wished they had showed what had happended to her in the finale.
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    LondonParisNYC wrote:
    speechless8582 wrote:
    LondonParisNYC wrote:
    speechless8582 wrote:
    LondonParisNYC wrote:
    dark_aquatus wrote:
    Writer1 wrote:

    i found it very symbolic that she was incrontrol her entire life (good example is one of her first lines "do the tides comand this ship) and that in the end she lost her sanity from lack of control, i was almost in tears

    it was a happy ending for her in the fact that she joined ti lee as a kyoshi warrior
    Wow, you really should watch the end of the finaly again rofl Guess you haven't payed enough attention?

    how is that symbolic? it's more ironic. and she was never really in control.
    how was she not in control in CoD? She was completely in control of the Dai Li and of the earth kingdom.

    No. She was always a product of her enviorment. From being raised under that much pressure gave her some sort of accute paranoia disorder not to mention a disassociation with fear and trust.

    what? how come i'm always disagreeing with you.

    lol, i have no idea. we are two very differnent people i guess. why are you disagreeing with me this time lol?
    I just don't think she grew up with that pressure, she pushed it upon herself, from striving to be the best and to beat Zuko. She knows what she is doing, even from when she was young. For example, she picked Ty Lee and Mai as friends because they had abilities she didn't know, and was able to learn from them.(Bryke commentary on DoBS) She always had everything in control and everything planned out. (until she learned that fear can't control everyone forever, which is what she had used her whole life to achieve her power and ferocity, thus causing her to crack)
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    LondonParisNYC

    [37]Jul 23, 2008
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    speechless8582 wrote:
    I just don't think she grew up with that pressure, she pushed it upon herself, from striving to be the best and to beat Zuko. She knows what she is doing, even from when she was young. For example, she picked Ty Lee and Mai as friends because they had abilities she didn't know, and was able to learn from them.(Bryke commentary on DoBS) She always had everything in control and everything planned out. (until she learned that fear can't control everyone forever, which is what she had used her whole life to achieve her power and ferocity, thus causing her to crack)

    But where else would she get this extreme self-motivation at such a young age other than her father. Her father (although it wasn't discussed or shown) was most likely the cause of her inablity to associate with people, and all the pressure put upon her. I say her father especially because they had identical character traits.

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    LondonParisNYC

    [38]Jul 23, 2008
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    Azula and her father were basically the same person.

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    speechless8582

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    LondonParisNYC wrote:

    Azula and her father were basically the same person.
    i can agree with that. DoBS showed their similarities perfectly.
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    LondonParisNYC

    [40]Jul 23, 2008
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    speechless8582 wrote:
    LondonParisNYC wrote:

    Azula and her father were basically the same person.
    i can agree with that. DoBS showed their similarities perfectly.

    yeah we agree on something! *buys a cake*

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