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    SpreadPeace

    [21]Jul 29, 2008
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    I'm pretty okay with them leaving that open, we can all guess that he'd find her and they'll be happy to see each other again. It also leaves it open in case they ever want to do the microseries mentioned in that one poster.

    Actually I wondered why they didn't really do anything else with Toph's parents, since she kind of brought them up in The Runaway. But there wouldn't have been any time for that in the finale.

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    Zuko4eva

    [22]Jul 29, 2008
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    IrohtheTea wrote:

    slumshoes wrote:
    Catdog08 wrote:
    Both, them leaving out the reunion was a bad idea. The entire setup of the finale was a bad idea. I think Nick should have ordered 30 episodes instead of the lone 21 because Bryke did all their best to make great episodes before the finale ones. Its like Bryke condensed 10 episodes of good stuff into 4 because they did not have enough money provided by Nick. I guess you can blame Nick for the badly executed finale.
    Indeed, blame Nick not Bryke. It's not their fault the show was crammed into a few eps with a lot of loose ends.

    agreed.

    when did nickelodeon shows got invaded by that retarded sponge and a queer squid?



    lol i agree. Nick does way more stuff when new Spongebob movies or episodes play. I mean sometimes Spongebob gets its own marathon when a new movie of it plays. I have nothing against Spongebob, but the Avatar is a much better and more well thought out show.
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    Zuko4eva

    [23]Jul 29, 2008
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    SpreadPeace wrote:

    I'm pretty okay with them leaving that open, we can all guess that he'd find her and they'll be happy to see each other again. It also leaves it open in case they ever want to do the microseries mentioned in that one poster.

    Actually I wondered why they didn't really do anything else with Toph's parents, since she kind of brought them up in The Runaway. But there wouldn't have been any time for that in the finale.



    Like how Toph had sent a letter to them but we don't even know if her parents ever got it. And on the Nick Avatar website, it says on the Southern Raiders Episode -- I think -- that all Fire Nation birds go to that one area to send a letter. Then the people sort through them and give it to another bird to send it out to its destination. Well since the bird that was meant to send out Toph's letter was of Fire Nation, does that mean that it was intercepted? who knows...
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    Zuko4eva

    [24]Jul 29, 2008
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    Pablo_808 wrote:
    speechless8582 wrote:
    IrohtheTea wrote:

    slumshoes wrote:
    Catdog08 wrote:
    Both, them leaving out the reunion was a bad idea. The entire setup of the finale was a bad idea. I think Nick should have ordered 30 episodes instead of the lone 21 because Bryke did all their best to make great episodes before the finale ones. Its like Bryke condensed 10 episodes of good stuff into 4 because they did not have enough money provided by Nick. I guess you can blame Nick for the badly executed finale.
    Indeed, blame Nick not Bryke. It's not their fault the show was crammed into a few eps with a lot of loose ends.

    agreed.

    when did nickelodeon shows got invaded by that retarded sponge and a queer squid?

    1999. but i thought the ending and the entire finale was perfect...

    I too agree that the finale was perfect. Had pretty much all things I loved in the series wrapped up in one package. I for one, like the cliffhanger ending that the finale left us with. Makes me excited even more to watch the minisodes that will be coming out soon.



    we're not even positive that minisodes will come out...
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    Zuko4eva

    [25]Jul 29, 2008
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    spidercoyote wrote:

    I liked the teashop reunion scene, but also agree that some indication as to what happened to Zuko's mother would have been satisfying as well. I certainly don't blame the writers for not having done that, given the funding situation. If we ever do get the answer, however, it may not be what we think, because we're all assuming Ozai actually told Zuko the truth about what happened that night.

    It must be said that one of Ozai's best bending abilities, which he still has, and which he shares with Azula, is bending the truth to suit his purposes, and he was trying to emotionally jerk Zuko around at the time he supposedly revealed Ursa's fate. It's quite possible that what actually happened was that Ozai's punishment was to be passed over in the succession altogether in favor of Zuko, with no chance of ever becoming firelord even if Iroh didn't want it. If that were the case, Ozai might have assassinated Azulon himself, then lied to Ursa (and Azula, and the people of the Fire Nation) about what Azulon had said. He might have let Ursa think he had killed his father to protect Zuko. Ursa may have agreed to take the fall out of gratitude for his having "saved" their son, thinking that Zuko might still be in danger if there was any suspicion that Ozai had murdered the firelord. Or Ozai could have blackmailed her into it with Zuko's safety as the price. It's not really clear what their relationship was at the time. It also never made sense that a man who loved his son as much as Azulon obviously loved Iroh would just capriciously do away with his innocent (and at that point only) grandson. Disinheriting Ozai would have been a more just solution, as Ozai was the one who had angered him.

    Whether that's the truth or not, I would have liked to have seen more, in flashback, of Zuko's family when they were happy, and why that changed. Did that begin when his mother left? And there are so many questions unanswered. How much did Ozai love Ursa? Was part of his overblown anger at Zuko's "disrespect" and "weakness" fueled by having lost her for Zuko's sake? It was hard to tell, in the episode which showed these events, whether Ozai's reaction to Zuko's questions about his mother's whereabouts immediately after Azulon's death was caused by grief or coldness. I guess that's really an indication of what a good story this was, that there's so much you can wonder about, and read into it.



    I doubt that the writers would lie like that making us think that everything they were going off of was a lie. I really think that whatever happened was something that Ursa had done. All the foreshadowing of the turtle ducks how a mother bites back and how she told Zuko "Everything I've done, I've done to protect you." And Ozai openly saying that she was banished. I doubt that all of that was a fake.

    And I kinda think that maybe Ozai doesn't like Zuko because he reminds him of his mother like how Azula takes after Ozai.
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    doomed_soul89

    [26]Jul 29, 2008
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    Zuko4eva wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    I think they deceided to cut it so that avatar would have a better chance for a season 4/another series, so i'm glad with what they showed but i would rather seen the reunion


    They are not planning on a season 4 of avatar and if they were it would be a whole new gang. they have made it clear that the gaang's story is Finished. So if they were gonna end it anyway and start a whole new story, they should have at least answered all the questions. And I agree that the tea shop scene should be scorned for that reason.. I mean, this whole Kataang thing... they could have found an earlier way to show that. Yeah I get that there was a war going on and everything, but even so, Aang knew what his feelings were and Katara was just being stubborn... obviously she was already falling for Aang. They could have settled the whole thing a lot earlier then right at the very end. There could have been better things to show.

    um yeah so what if they weren't planning it, tons of shows have came back from the grave and alot of ppl that watch avatar haven't even seen southern raiders yet because nick is the only network that showed half the episodes in one week,and even the creators themselves seem unsure about the future its way to early to say "it's impossible that they are going to continue it" seriously you guys have no idea how this stuff works, fan outcires for another season works a lot (kim possible, reboot, jericho, ect.) so yea
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    Zuko4eva

    [27]Jul 29, 2008
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    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    Zuko4eva wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    I think they deceided to cut it so that avatar would have a better chance for a season 4/another series, so i'm glad with what they showed but i would rather seen the reunion


    They are not planning on a season 4 of avatar and if they were it would be a whole new gang. they have made it clear that the gaang's story is Finished. So if they were gonna end it anyway and start a whole new story, they should have at least answered all the questions. And I agree that the tea shop scene should be scorned for that reason.. I mean, this whole Kataang thing... they could have found an earlier way to show that. Yeah I get that there was a war going on and everything, but even so, Aang knew what his feelings were and Katara was just being stubborn... obviously she was already falling for Aang. They could have settled the whole thing a lot earlier then right at the very end. There could have been better things to show.

    um yeah so what if they weren't planning it, tons of shows have came back from the grave and alot of ppl that watch avatar haven't even seen southern raiders yet because nick is the only network that showed half the episodes in one week,and even the creators themselves seem unsure about the future its way to early to say "it's impossible that they are going to continue it" seriously you guys have no idea how this stuff works, fan outcires for another season works a lot (kim possible, reboot, jericho, ect.) so yea


    I'm not saying that they wouldn't continue with Avatar... its just that it would most likely be about a whole new gaang.
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    doomed_soul89

    [28]Jul 29, 2008
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    Zuko4eva wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    Zuko4eva wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    I think they deceided to cut it so that avatar would have a better chance for a season 4/another series, so i'm glad with what they showed but i would rather seen the reunion
    They are not planning on a season 4 of avatar and if they were it would be a whole new gang. they have made it clear that the gaang's story is Finished. So if they were gonna end it anyway and start a whole new story, they should have at least answered all the questions. And I agree that the tea shop scene should be scorned for that reason.. I mean, this whole Kataang thing... they could have found an earlier way to show that. Yeah I get that there was a war going on and everything, but even so, Aang knew what his feelings were and Katara was just being stubborn... obviously she was already falling for Aang. They could have settled the whole thing a lot earlier then right at the very end. There could have been better things to show.
    um yeah so what if they weren't planning it, tons of shows have came back from the grave and alot of ppl that watch avatar haven't even seen southern raiders yet because nick is the only network that showed half the episodes in one week,and even the creators themselves seem unsure about the future its way to early to say "it's impossible that they are going to continue it" seriously you guys have no idea how this stuff works, fan outcires for another season works a lot (kim possible, reboot, jericho, ect.) so yea
    I'm not saying that they wouldn't continue with Avatar... its just that it would most likely be about a whole new gaang.
    I doubt it, making a new gang would be pointless they aren't any good minor characters that are in the series that a snip off would work for and just making up new characters and starting it all over again would be a step back to season 1 in my opinion if they do remake it i think they will just make the gang older and have a new conflict or just a direct continuation, people have mentioned that nick has given avatar a not so great budget so isn't it possible that the creators are playing games with us to get the upper hand and try to resolve that
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    Zuko4eva

    [29]Jul 29, 2008
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    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    Zuko4eva wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    Zuko4eva wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    I think they deceided to cut it so that avatar would have a better chance for a season 4/another series, so i'm glad with what they showed but i would rather seen the reunion
    They are not planning on a season 4 of avatar and if they were it would be a whole new gang. they have made it clear that the gaang's story is Finished. So if they were gonna end it anyway and start a whole new story, they should have at least answered all the questions. And I agree that the tea shop scene should be scorned for that reason.. I mean, this whole Kataang thing... they could have found an earlier way to show that. Yeah I get that there was a war going on and everything, but even so, Aang knew what his feelings were and Katara was just being stubborn... obviously she was already falling for Aang. They could have settled the whole thing a lot earlier then right at the very end. There could have been better things to show.
    um yeah so what if they weren't planning it, tons of shows have came back from the grave and alot of ppl that watch avatar haven't even seen southern raiders yet because nick is the only network that showed half the episodes in one week,and even the creators themselves seem unsure about the future its way to early to say "it's impossible that they are going to continue it" seriously you guys have no idea how this stuff works, fan outcires for another season works a lot (kim possible, reboot, jericho, ect.) so yea
    I'm not saying that they wouldn't continue with Avatar... its just that it would most likely be about a whole new gaang.
    I doubt it, making a new gang would be pointless they aren't any good minor characters that are in the series that a snip off would work for and just making up new characters and starting it all over again would be a step back to season 1 in my opinion if they do remake it i think they will just make the gang older and have a new conflict or just a direct continuation, people have mentioned that nick has given avatar a not so great budget so isn't it possible that the creators are playing games with us to get the upper hand and try to resolve that


    Well whatever does happen... the creators better know what they're doing.
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    isabelwhatx

    [30]Jul 29, 2008
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    I would have kept the teashop scene. It revealed that everything was calm and peaceful and that the worst had come and go. The gAang was relaxed and joyful. It also showed Aang's relief and, of course, the infamous Kataang kiss. I don't think Zuko and Ursa's reuniting scene would've been nearly as important. The final scene held a lot of significance and finality to the whole series. Plus, the extra mystery made the finale all the more interesting. I definitely think that by finally concluding the series and showing the serene calm the gAang had was the perfect ending.
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    speechless8582

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    isabelwhatx wrote:
    I would have kept the teashop scene. It revealed that everything was calm and peaceful and that the worst had come and go. The gAang was relaxed and joyful. It also showed Aang's relief and, of course, the infamous Kataang kiss. I don't think Zuko and Ursa's reuniting scene would've been nearly as important. The final scene held a lot of significance and finality to the whole series. Plus, the extra mystery made the finale all the more interesting. I definitely think that by finally concluding the series and showing the serene calm the gAang had was the perfect ending.
    i agree 100%.
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    isabelwhatx

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    Zuko4eva wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    Zuko4eva wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    Zuko4eva wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    I think they deceided to cut it so that avatar would have a better chance for a season 4/another series, so i'm glad with what they showed but i would rather seen the reunion
    They are not planning on a season 4 of avatar and if they were it would be a whole new gang. they have made it clear that the gaang's story is Finished. So if they were gonna end it anyway and start a whole new story, they should have at least answered all the questions. And I agree that the tea shop scene should be scorned for that reason.. I mean, this whole Kataang thing... they could have found an earlier way to show that. Yeah I get that there was a war going on and everything, but even so, Aang knew what his feelings were and Katara was just being stubborn... obviously she was already falling for Aang. They could have settled the whole thing a lot earlier then right at the very end. There could have been better things to show.
    um yeah so what if they weren't planning it, tons of shows have came back from the grave and alot of ppl that watch avatar haven't even seen southern raiders yet because nick is the only network that showed half the episodes in one week,and even the creators themselves seem unsure about the future its way to early to say "it's impossible that they are going to continue it" seriously you guys have no idea how this stuff works, fan outcires for another season works a lot (kim possible, reboot, jericho, ect.) so yea
    I'm not saying that they wouldn't continue with Avatar... its just that it would most likely be about a whole new gaang.
    I doubt it, making a new gang would be pointless they aren't any good minor characters that are in the series that a snip off would work for and just making up new characters and starting it all over again would be a step back to season 1 in my opinion if they do remake it i think they will just make the gang older and have a new conflict or just a direct continuation, people have mentioned that nick has given avatar a not so great budget so isn't it possible that the creators are playing games with us to get the upper hand and try to resolve that


    Well whatever does happen... the creators better know what they're doing.

    tl;dr most of it. But from the gist of it I got the idea that you were arguing what the new series would be about if there was one. It has been confirmed that there will be completely new characters and a new Avatar. There is no doubt.
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    isabelwhatx

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    speechless8582 wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    I would have kept the teashop scene. It revealed that everything was calm and peaceful and that the worst had come and go. The gAang was relaxed and joyful. It also showed Aang's relief and, of course, the infamous Kataang kiss. I don't think Zuko and Ursa's reuniting scene would've been nearly as important. The final scene held a lot of significance and finality to the whole series. Plus, the extra mystery made the finale all the more interesting. I definitely think that by finally concluding the series and showing the serene calm the gAang had was the perfect ending.
    i agree 100%.

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    Zuko4eva

    [34]Jul 29, 2008
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    isabelwhatx wrote:
    Zuko4eva wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    Zuko4eva wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    Zuko4eva wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    I think they deceided to cut it so that avatar would have a better chance for a season 4/another series, so i'm glad with what they showed but i would rather seen the reunion
    They are not planning on a season 4 of avatar and if they were it would be a whole new gang. they have made it clear that the gaang's story is Finished. So if they were gonna end it anyway and start a whole new story, they should have at least answered all the questions. And I agree that the tea shop scene should be scorned for that reason.. I mean, this whole Kataang thing... they could have found an earlier way to show that. Yeah I get that there was a war going on and everything, but even so, Aang knew what his feelings were and Katara was just being stubborn... obviously she was already falling for Aang. They could have settled the whole thing a lot earlier then right at the very end. There could have been better things to show.
    um yeah so what if they weren't planning it, tons of shows have came back from the grave and alot of ppl that watch avatar haven't even seen southern raiders yet because nick is the only network that showed half the episodes in one week,and even the creators themselves seem unsure about the future its way to early to say "it's impossible that they are going to continue it" seriously you guys have no idea how this stuff works, fan outcires for another season works a lot (kim possible, reboot, jericho, ect.) so yea
    I'm not saying that they wouldn't continue with Avatar... its just that it would most likely be about a whole new gaang.
    I doubt it, making a new gang would be pointless they aren't any good minor characters that are in the series that a snip off would work for and just making up new characters and starting it all over again would be a step back to season 1 in my opinion if they do remake it i think they will just make the gang older and have a new conflict or just a direct continuation, people have mentioned that nick has given avatar a not so great budget so isn't it possible that the creators are playing games with us to get the upper hand and try to resolve that


    Well whatever does happen... the creators better know what they're doing.

    tl;dr most of it. But from the gist of it I got the idea that you were arguing what the new series would be about if there was one. It has been confirmed that there will be completely new characters and a new Avatar. There is no doubt.


    See I knew it!!! lol totally new characters...
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    AGodAmongGods

    [35]Jul 29, 2008
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    I think that it's hinted that Ursa died. That, or we find out in the live action movie.
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    Zuko4eva

    [36]Jul 29, 2008
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    AGodAmongGods wrote:
    I think that it's hinted that Ursa died. That, or we find out in the live action movie.


    Nope, she didn't die. In DoBS Ozai tells Zuko that she was banished.
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    Zuko4eva

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    And the live action movie are supposedly only like a summary of the seasons with a few more twists.
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    paoros16

    [38]Jul 29, 2008
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    I would of liked to see both but I did like the ending that they had I would hope they put it in as an extra on either the complete season 3 or the last dvd
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    Zuko4eva

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    paoros16 wrote:
    I would of liked to see both but I did like the ending that they had I would hope they put it in as an extra on either the complete season 3 or the last dvd


    yeah... maybe.
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    KingofSpades209

    [40]Jul 29, 2008
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    If we never see what happens to Zuko's mom, I would have rather have a scene with Zuko's mom and Zuko. But if in the future we do see what happens to Zuko's mom, then I'll be happy with the ending they had put in.
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