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    free2eatcookies

    [1]Sep 28, 2006
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    sorry if theres already a thread like this but i wonder do u think aang will be able 2 master blue fire by the time he has to fight the firelord.

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    bulefireskull

    [2]Sep 28, 2006
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    Shh I don't know I don't think he even going to try to master firebending
    red: I think he might master firebending not blue fire though.
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    gamerfreak2

    [3]Sep 28, 2006
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    whats the difference between blue fire and jus regular fire and lightining?
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    cjclifford

    [4]Sep 28, 2006
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    gamerfreak2 wrote:
    whats the difference between blue fire and jus regular fire and lightining?

    blue fire is hotter than regular fire.?? I don't get the lightening thing.?? Lightening isn't fire.?? Cool though.
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    KilalaRose

    [5]Sep 28, 2006
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    cjclifford wrote:
    gamerfreak2 wrote:
    whats the difference between blue fire and jus regular fire and lightining?

    blue fire is hotter than regular fire.?? I don't get the lightening thing.?? Lightening isn't fire.?? Cool though.
    fire and lightening are both sources of energy. lightening also ignites fire if it hits a tree or something. also, fire and lightening both have the same chemical makeup (i'm not sure about the chemical makeup thing, but i heard somewhere that they're similar in that way)
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    Eman5805

    [6]Sep 28, 2006
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    the official word on lightning...is that certain??Firebenders are able to seperate postive charges and negative charges with their hand, this creates an imbalance, and when the two charges(or energies) come crashing back together, the Firebender provides guidence so they aren't controlling the Lightning only guiding it...and Iroh also can teach ANY Firebender how to redirect lightning by creating a path from the arm through the sea of chi(or the stomach) and out the other arm...he learned that from watching Waterbenders...now blue Firebending...well power in Firebending comes from the breathe...so I'm thinking Azula has masterd her breathing and can draw more energy...that's what I've gatherd from??the show??so far...
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    Fronzel

    [7]Sep 28, 2006
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    Lightning is a form of??fire in a mythological sense. Lighten up!

    I think it's doubtful Aang will learn to bend lightning because then Zuko (who likely will learn to bend lightning) would be superfluous.

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    Raikiri1103

    [8]Sep 28, 2006
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    Technically fire and lightning are both plasmas. Only really experienced firebenders who train alot tend to be able to create lighting. Since Azula is a firebending prodigy she got trained by those two old ladies how to create and discharge lighting. Iroh also knows how and even developed a move to redirect someone else's lighting attack. The whole whole blue fire thing actually has nothing to do with lighting. Its just hotter than the usual red/orange fire and the reason Azula can do is prabably bacuase she was teached how or its just becuase thats the way she is.
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    blitzwing17

    [9]Sep 28, 2006
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    Raikiri1103 wrote:
    Technically fire and lightning are both plasmas. Only really experienced firebenders who train alot tend to be able to create lighting. Since Azula is a firebending prodigy she got trained by those two old ladies how to create and discharge lighting. Iroh also knows how and even developed a move to redirect someone else's lighting attack. The whole whole blue fire thing actually has nothing to do with lighting. Its just hotter than the usual red/orange fire and the reason Azula can do is prabably bacuase she was teached how or its just becuase thats the way she is.


    Actually they are different. Fire is simply the rapid oxidation(exchange of elections) of a material with the surroundings. Lightning, is the realease of a built up charge. Both can burn you but fire only burns the outside, lightning carves a path thought the target until it reaches ground. Plus fire requires oxygen or another electron hungry gas to be effective. Lightning simply needs a medium throught which to travel(air, water, etc).

    I really wish there were lightning benders they would be soo bad @ss.
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    BiSheng

    [10]Sep 28, 2006
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    I hate to be a pain but, this belongs under questions and answers.
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    Shard2005

    [11]Sep 29, 2006
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    blitzwing17 wrote:
    Raikiri1103 wrote:
    Technically fire and lightning are both plasmas. Only really experienced firebenders who train alot tend to be able to create lighting. Since Azula is a firebending prodigy she got trained by those two old ladies how to create and discharge lighting. Iroh also knows how and even developed a move to redirect someone else's lighting attack. The whole whole blue fire thing actually has nothing to do with lighting. Its just hotter than the usual red/orange fire and the reason Azula can do is prabably bacuase she was teached how or its just becuase thats the way she is.


    Actually they are different. Fire is simply the rapid oxidation(exchange of elections) of a material with the surroundings. Lightning, is the realease of a built up charge. Both can burn you but fire only burns the outside, lightning carves a path thought the target until it reaches ground. Plus fire requires oxygen or another electron hungry gas to be effective. Lightning simply needs a medium throught which to travel(air, water, etc).

    I really wish there were lightning benders they would be soo bad @ss.

    I'm glad there are other science kids in the house other than me. I'm so glad someone cleared that up. Also the levels of heat in flame are reflected by their color. White is the hottest, and red is the coolest.

    It goes, white to blue to yellow to orange to red. (This is also how you classify the life stages of stars btw)
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    mister001

    [12]Sep 29, 2006
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    there's another aspect to fire
    blue fire means that it completely burns up it's fuel red/orange/yellow flames indicates that the fire is burning incompletely....

    I don't know if you got the exact same thing as we in NL got it but we get our hot water etc by burning up natural gas if this gas burns with red/orange/yellow we'll create one hell of a toxic gas wich you can't smell nor seen or hear...
    (forgot the name)

    so it's plain science that blue fire is hotter then red/orange/yellow fire....
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    e-hero-will

    [13]Sep 29, 2006
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    gamerfreak2 wrote:
    whats the difference between blue fire and jus regular fire and lightining?

    Blue fire is Elite firebending only for the very well trained. Blue fire is hotter than normal fire.
    Lightning is a form of firebending, I guess lightning and fire are quite simallar. I think Zuko should master Blue Fire Bending, it'd be so cool!

    I hope something like this happens in the season finale, to make up for his disgrace in book one.

    1. That girl he's gonna date joins him on his journey.
    2. Azula kills Iroh and Zuko goes crazy on her whooping her but. (Might happen right when the solar eclipse starts, so he can take her down with swords.)
    3. He has another awesome fight with Jet, or the two join forces.
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    Shard2005

    [14]Sep 29, 2006
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    e-hero-will wrote:
    gamerfreak2 wrote:
    whats the difference between blue fire and jus regular fire and lightining?
    Blue fire is hotter than normal fire. Lightning is a form of firebending, I guess lightning and fire are quite simallar.
    Have you read anything that's been posted up here? Blue fire is normal fire, it's just one of the hottest part of the flame. Look at a campfire and you'll see the blue part close to the bottom. And Lightning is different from fire.

    lightning can cause a fire, but not the other way around. Lightning has to do with positive and negative charges getting together. Fire is the combustion of a fuel when heat and oxygen are supplied. when azula and iroh use lightning, they are separating the electrons in the air, rejoining them inside their bodies, then shooting the resulting lightning out of their fingers. Lightning will always find a way to get to the ground. That's why when Iroh grabbed azula's fingers he acted as a conduit and channeled the lightning through himself and out in another direction into the rock. That's how you deflect lightning. You can't stop it, only change it's direction.

    Edited on 09/29/2006 11:21am
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    numbah_one

    [15]Oct 3, 2006
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    Shard2005 wrote:

    e-hero-will wrote:
    gamerfreak2 wrote:
    whats the difference between blue fire and jus regular fire and lightining?
    Blue fire is hotter than normal fire. Lightning is a form of firebending, I guess lightning and fire are quite simallar.
    Have you read anything that's been posted up here? Blue fire is normal fire, it's just one of the hottest part of the flame. Look at a campfire and you'll see the blue part close to the bottom. And Lightning is different from fire.

    lightning can cause a fire, but not the other way around. Lightning has to do with positive and negative charges getting together. Fire is the combustion of a fuel when heat and oxygen are supplied. when azula and iroh use lightning, they are separating the electrons in the air, rejoining them inside their bodies, then shooting the resulting lightning out of their fingers. Lightning will always find a way to get to the ground. That's why when Iroh grabbed azula's fingers he acted as a conduit and channeled the lightning through himself and out in another direction into the rock. That's how you deflect lightning. You can't stop it, only change it's direction.


    ok...
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    zukone

    [16]Oct 3, 2006
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    I wonder if Aang will be able to create invisible, or near invisible, flames. If he waterbends and breaks apart the atomic structure of water, he will end up with hydrogen and Oxygen. Hydrogen, I hear is highly flammable and burns invisible or near invisible.

    Please correct me if I'm wrong.
    Edited on 10/03/2006 9:12pm
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    JonathonWolf

    [17]Oct 3, 2006
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    You can also get different colors based on what you are burning.?? I can't recall right now if that's because those materials burn at a different temperatures or because of their molecular construction.?? Some compounds can even burn with no color.
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    zukone

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    Now that I think about it he might be able to create bombs with that ability. Rip Hydrogen from water, compress Hydrogen with air, ignite and BOOM. Well it would probably come as a small explosion, but who else would have that ability? It'd be a shocker in battle.
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    niceguyposer

    [19]Oct 3, 2006
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    The four nations in Avatar are based on the four classical elements: fire, earth, water, and air.?? Quite a few series choose to depict the classical elements, even the Fantastic Four (Reed - water, Sue - air, Johnny - fire, Ben - earth).?? However, some people consider lightning to be an additional fifth element.?? (Some Asian cultures even consider wood and metal to be elements.)?? Somewhere along the line, the creators of Avatar probably thought the idea of "lightning bending" had a lot of potential but couldn't??determine how to incorporate it into the show, seeing as there were already four nations.?? They decided that the only logical way to include "lightning bending" was to depict it as an advanced form of firebending.?? This is purely my speculation.

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    Shard2005

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    zukone wrote:
    Now that I think about it he might be able to create bombs with that ability. Rip Hydrogen from water, compress Hydrogen with air, ignite and BOOM. Well it would probably come as a small explosion, but who else would have that ability? It'd be a shocker in battle.

    To do that, the Avatar world would have to admit to their being such a thing as hydrogen. The avatar world only works with the 4 classic elements, fire, water, earth, and air. However, it is seen when some elements mix, and explosion ensues. For example, in the fist season, Aang and Zuko fight and mix air and fire together resulting in a huge explosion.
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