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    Ecfyeti

    [21]Oct 3, 2006
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    I'm pretty sure no one has mentioned this yet (and if someone has sorry), but technically the firebenders don't "bend" the lightning, they create it by bending??positive and negative??energy and letting it crash. Iroh even specifically said (in Bitter Work)??that once you create the lighting you cannot control it only guide it. Even if they could bend it, that would make sense too since??how they create fire in the first place??is by bending internal energy, and isn't lighting just one big heaping bolt of energy???
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    niceguyposer

    [22]Oct 3, 2006
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    Shard2005 wrote:
    zukone wrote:
    Now that I think about it he might be able to create bombs with that ability. Rip Hydrogen from water, compress Hydrogen with air, ignite and BOOM. Well it would probably come as a small explosion, but who else would have that ability? It'd be a shocker in battle.

    To do that, the Avatar world would have to admit to their being such a thing as hydrogen. The avatar world only works with the 4 classic elements, fire, water, earth, and air. However, it is seen when some elements mix, and explosion ensues. For example, in the fist season, Aang and Zuko fight and mix air and fire together resulting in a huge explosion.

    Uh, hydrogen is a CHEMICAL element, a component of water. (H2O, remember?)
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    zukone

    [23]Oct 3, 2006
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    Shard2005 wrote:
    zukone wrote:
    Now that I think about it he might be able to create bombs with that ability. Rip Hydrogen from water, compress Hydrogen with air, ignite and BOOM. Well it would probably come as a small explosion, but who else would have that ability? It'd be a shocker in battle.

    To do that, the Avatar world would have to admit to their being such a thing as hydrogen. The avatar world only works with the 4 classic elements, fire, water, earth, and air. However, it is seen when some elements mix, and explosion ensues. For example, in the fist season, Aang and Zuko fight and mix air and fire together resulting in a huge explosion.

    ??



    Not really. No one has been unable to breathe because they
    didn't admit air existed. People have historically used chemical reactions to
    do so many things without understanding or acknowledging that there were even principles
    of why it worked. It can be done without knowing the scientific reasons for it.
    Because Aang is the Avatar, he may come to have some sort of innate ability to,
    not only use the elements fluidly by using them consecutively and smartly, but
    also to fuse them by using or two or more at once. To him, he may just be
    bending water in a special way and using a succession of bending skills.



    He could also encase the pressurized Hydrogen with earth before fire blasting
    it. All elements used.

    Edited on 10/03/2006 10:31pm
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    RysanMarquise

    [24]Oct 4, 2006
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    Again I appear for science!

    Looking at what the fire-benders are doing on a normal basis, they are really just manipulating energy, generally adding to it just through sheer force to create 'fire'. Their fire in the series is generally short lived as it has no real fuel except perhaps that from scattered bits of material. Case is shown for this when in the Deserter he makes a massive wall of fire rising from the ground because the ground is acting as it's fuel.

    When forming lightning they are merely diverting this energy then restoring the resulting imbalance. If they were to be angry at this time they would naturally force their own energy into the act, causing the forces to snap back together instantly. The result would be something like a lightning bolt instantly forming on the point of focus, combined with flame (an explosion).
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    Shard2005

    [25]Oct 4, 2006
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    zukone wrote:
    Shard2005 wrote:
    zukone wrote:
    Now that I think about it he might be able to create bombs with that ability. Rip Hydrogen from water, compress Hydrogen with air, ignite and BOOM. Well it would probably come as a small explosion, but who else would have that ability? It'd be a shocker in battle.

    To do that, the Avatar world would have to admit to their being such a thing as hydrogen. The avatar world only works with the 4 classic elements, fire, water, earth, and air. However, it is seen when some elements mix, and explosion ensues. For example, in the fist season, Aang and Zuko fight and mix air and fire together resulting in a huge explosion.

    ??



    Not really. No one has been unable to breathe because they
    didn't admit air existed. People have historically used chemical reactions to
    do so many things without understanding or acknowledging that there were even principles
    of why it worked. It can be done without knowing the scientific reasons for it.
    Because Aang is the Avatar, he may come to have some sort of innate ability to,
    not only use the elements fluidly by using them consecutively and smartly, but
    also to fuse them by using or two or more at once. To him, he may just be
    bending water in a special way and using a succession of bending skills.



    He could also encase the pressurized Hydrogen with earth before fire blasting
    it. All elements used.

    yes, but he'd have to know which molecule to remove and how many.
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    zukone

    [26]Oct 4, 2006
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    Again, no not necessarily.
    Edited on 10/04/2006 4:44am
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    eneterprise

    [27]Jan 2, 2007
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    My theory is that only girls can bend blue fire.We really haven;t seen any girls other than Azula and it can;t be that she is stronger that Iroh cause I?? mean She ins't.
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    cjmg85

    [28]Jan 2, 2007
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    Does Azula even bend non-blue fire at all other than in the opening of the show? I don't think it has to do with power either, though, it's just something to make her different. Interestingly enough, if you drop the final a in her name, it becomes azul, the spanish world for blue...... (could then Azulon have bent blue fire? Dun dun DUN!.... lol).
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    eneterprise

    [29]Jan 2, 2007
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    cjmg85 wrote:
    Does Azula even bend non-blue fire at all other than in the opening of the show? I don't think it has to do with power either, though, it's just something to make her different. Interestingly enough, if you drop the final a in her name, it becomes azul, the spanish world for blue...... (could then Azulon have bent blue fire? Dun dun DUN!.... lol).
    maybe she Is just unique....It could be that other people have differente color.
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    DrAvatar

    [30]Jan 2, 2007
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    I think the difference b/t blue and regular fire isn't that big. The only difference is how Iroh explained in "Bitter Work" i think. Anyway I think this discussion is overhyped.
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    eneterprise

    [31]Jan 2, 2007
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    DrAvatar wrote:
    I think the difference b/t blue and regular fire isn't that big. The only difference is how Iroh explained in "Bitter Work" i think. Anyway I think this discussion is overhyped.
    Yeah but appertynly this thread is the Official place to talk about it. but yeah it could be just how mad you bend it.
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