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Bloodbending *Spoilers*

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    risingsoul

    [101]Oct 27, 2007
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    MarryLarry wrote:
    Maybe they were experimenting or using them as sex slaves. I don't know. There are a lot of plot holes in avatar. The whole timeline is effed up and Toph knowing Mai and Ty Lee were not Kyoshi warriors even though she never met them or a single warrior before still confounds me.

    No show is without its inconsistencies, but the two you raised up just aren't them. The timeline is really more convoluted than actually inconsistent. And Toph met the Kyoshi warriors back in the Serpent's Pass. Suki, remember? Besides, she didn't have to meet them anyway to tell when someone's lying.

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    dumbTVnut

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    chibikangaroo wrote:
    dumbTVnut wrote:
    LordMordor wrote:
    chibikangaroo wrote:

    I don't think they ever specifically said that it can only be done during the full moon.


    Hamah - "Tonight I'll show you the ultimate technique of waterbending, that can only be used during the full moon"

    seems pretty specific to me, they don't usually try to trip you up when explaining how things work. its alright to speculate about things, but there should be at least a little evidence to back up that speculation. there is no evidence so far that would back up that claim though.

    think back to the old argument that Ty Lee was part air-nomad, was it an out-there theory yeah...but there were little things that gave room for speculation (her eyes, attitude, and acrobatic ability)
    you have nothing like that in this case

    ther


    We had nothing to hint at metal bending either!


    A perfect example of what i'm talking about. How many times through the story did we hear people say that earthbenders COULDN'T bend metal. They all said it couldn't be done, but the point was, it couldn't be done by THEM. Toph was special, and was able to surpass their abilities. I think that there is ample evidence that Katara could very well surpass the power of Hama.

    Thanks for bringing up the metal bending thing TVnut I hadn't been thinking about it at first


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    chibikangaroo

    [103]Oct 27, 2007
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    LordMordor wrote:
    right, they didn't mention it at all.
    they didn't say it was possible or not possible.

    in this case they explicitely said it was not possible

    btw, sorry about that "ther" thing at the end of my last post, it was a typo and my comp wont let me edit messages for some reason. not trying to be harsh


    Actually there were several instances of people saying that earthbenders couldn't bend metal. Why do you think they always locked them up in metal cages or put them on metal ships out at sea? I recall someone talking about the fact that earthbenders weren't supposed to be able to bend metal on at least a few occassions, but TVnut is right we never really had a hint that Toph WOULD be able to do it until she was about to, and she suprised us all
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    polaricegirl

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    chibikangaroo wrote:
    LordMordor wrote:
    right, they didn't mention it at all.
    they didn't say it was possible or not possible.

    in this case they explicitely said it was not possible

    btw, sorry about that "ther" thing at the end of my last post, it was a typo and my comp wont let me edit messages for some reason. not trying to be harsh


    Actually there were several instances of people saying that earthbenders couldn't bend metal. Why do you think they always locked them up in metal cages or put them on metal ships out at sea? I recall someone talking about the fact that earthbenders weren't supposed to be able to bend metal on at least a few occassions, but TVnut is right we never really had a hint that Toph WOULD be able to do it until she was about to, and she suprised us all
    yeah she did ....i loved it
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    MaiAndZuko4eva

    [105]Oct 27, 2007
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    I'm not sure about bloodbending but for all i know is she can do sweat bending. In "the runaway" Katara used sweat to break out of jail with toph.
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    Eman5805

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    MaiAndZuko4eva wrote:
    I'm not sure about bloodbending but for all i know is she can do sweat bending. In "the runaway" Katara used sweat to break out of jail with toph.


    That means you haven't see "The Puppetmaster" yet...
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    raienbrasa

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    dumbTVnut wrote:
    MarryLarry wrote:

    dumbTVnut wrote:
    blood bending is not a actuate name: Fluids in human body ranked by % volume 1. Intracellular fluid (43%) 2. Intercellular fluid/lymphatic fluid (10%) 3. Blood (7%) "Bodybending" would be a better word, also "Water ripping" would be best for describing the removal of water from plants or air. By the way it does not make sense for the firenation to imprison the water benders, why not kill them all like the airbenders?

    Weren't you just saying this is a ****ing cartoon and didn't need to make sense?


    Does not need to make scientific sense, plot hole are always plot holes. Calling it blood bending is not a serious infraction, but leaving those waterbenders to live in a expensive prison for many years costing the time of soldiers and money of the fire nation just does not make sense on so many levels!
    If they're healers, why not keep 'em? Put them to work healing your army.

    ***SPOILER***
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    dumbTVnut

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    raienbrasa wrote:
    dumbTVnut wrote:
    MarryLarry wrote:

    dumbTVnut wrote:
    blood bending is not a actuate name: Fluids in human body ranked by % volume 1. Intracellular fluid (43%) 2. Intercellular fluid/lymphatic fluid (10%) 3. Blood (7%) "Bodybending" would be a better word, also "Water ripping" would be best for describing the removal of water from plants or air. By the way it does not make sense for the firenation to imprison the water benders, why not kill them all like the airbenders?

    Weren't you just saying this is a ****ing cartoon and didn't need to make sense?


    Does not need to make scientific sense, plot hole are always plot holes. Calling it blood bending is not a serious infraction, but leaving those waterbenders to live in a expensive prison for many years costing the time of soldiers and money of the fire nation just does not make sense on so many levels!
    If they're healers, why not keep 'em? Put them to work healing your army.

    ***SPOILER***

    Fans always make up contrived answers when the simplest answer is the writers ****ed up.
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    raienbrasa

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    Contrived? Hell, I'd do that to them, if I were the Fire Lord. Makes them useful and rubs it in their culture's face. Lawl, win.
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    SplitReflection

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    You realise that pretty much every Avatar episode showing the moon has it full? The Painted Lady has a crescent moon reflected in the water when Aang is chasing Katara, but at the end of the episode itbecomes big and round again. Bloodbending could be far more usable than common sense would expect.

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    calirox52

    [111]Nov 1, 2007
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    LordMordor wrote:
    crashblast24 wrote:

    Now we know what move Katara wants to unlearn. If there was a very advanced evil waterbender, he/she could use his blood to shape-shift (Make cuts on his back and grow wings or something), but this is a kids show, so there are low chances of that unless they changed the rating to PG

    I think your giving the ability more credit than it deserves, doing something like making wings out of blood would drain his own blood supply and kill him. and who knows if they can actually rip the blood out of a living body like they do with plants...

    besides, its clearly a high-end master level ability that can also only be used with the power boost from the full moon.

    One things that concerns me though *spoiler alert*

    Hana said it herself that it took her years to master the technique, but here we see Katara performing it moments after learning of its very existence. At least when she became a master in between Waterbending Master and Siege of the North we had the satisfaction of knowing there was indeed a time skip between the episodes. In this case though she hears about the technique, and can instantly preform it on its very master. thats a little much I think.

    it is a little much but maybe she could do ithad the power to save aang (the person who would've been killed with sokkas sword) and sokka...who would have to live with the guilt of killing him even though it wasn't his fault. plus we all know how powerful katara is...she resisted Hana's blood-bending...

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    chanteltrainer

    [112]Nov 3, 2007
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    i think that this blood bending was a good thing for katara to learn, whether she likes it or not. i have a feeling that later in the season shes gonna be forced to use it to get out of a bad situation. then she will realize that just because the way she learned it was evil doesnt mean that its completely evil, if she realizes that, and uses it only when the time calls for it, she will be the most powerful waterbender in the world. in my view i think that just blood bend them into a cell or something is a lot less evil than whipping them with water or chucking rocks at them which could lead to death! and if your blood bending someone whos trying to kill you than theyve got it coming!
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    bama487456

    [113]Jul 12, 2008
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    chanteltrainer wrote:
    i think that this blood bending was a good thing for katara to learn, whether she likes it or not. i have a feeling that later in the season shes gonna be forced to use it to get out of a bad situation. then she will realize that just because the way she learned it was evil doesnt mean that its completely evil, if she realizes that, and uses it only when the time calls for it, she will be the most powerful waterbender in the world. in my view i think that just blood bend them into a cell or something is a lot less evil than whipping them with water or chucking rocks at them which could lead to death! and if your blood bending someone whos trying to kill you than theyve got it coming!

    That is a very good point, but still she doesn't want to reach down inside someone and force them to do anything

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    toosmooth

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    bama487456 wrote:

    chanteltrainer wrote:
    i think that this blood bending was a good thing for katara to learn, whether she likes it or not. i have a feeling that later in the season shes gonna be forced to use it to get out of a bad situation. then she will realize that just because the way she learned it was evil doesnt mean that its completely evil, if she realizes that, and uses it only when the time calls for it, she will be the most powerful waterbender in the world. in my view i think that just blood bend them into a cell or something is a lot less evil than whipping them with water or chucking rocks at them which could lead to death! and if your blood bending someone whos trying to kill you than theyve got it coming!

    That is a very good point, but still she doesn't want to reach down inside someone and force them to do anything
    Stop reviving dead threads!
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    mark426

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    bama487456 wrote:

    chanteltrainer wrote:
    i think that this blood bending was a good thing for katara to learn, whether she likes it or not. i have a feeling that later in the season shes gonna be forced to use it to get out of a bad situation. then she will realize that just because the way she learned it was evil doesnt mean that its completely evil, if she realizes that, and uses it only when the time calls for it, she will be the most powerful waterbender in the world. in my view i think that just blood bend them into a cell or something is a lot less evil than whipping them with water or chucking rocks at them which could lead to death! and if your blood bending someone whos trying to kill you than theyve got it coming!

    That is a very good point, but still she doesn't want to reach down inside someone and force them to do anything
    *sigh* People, please do not post here, this thread is long dead.
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    mark426

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    Seriously, why do n00bs notice threads on page 136, but they don't notice them on page 1 and 2?!
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    bama487456

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    tomtitan wrote:
    StrongGaia wrote:
    I think that bloodbending has made water the ultimate element. I mean, what other elements have any techniques that could beat a bloodbender? I realise that you can only do it during the full moon, and that only master waterbenders can perform it. But still, it makes waterbenders VERY powerful. A little too powerful I think.
    yes but think of how weak waterbending was before bloodbending, it was probably the weaker element, i'm not saying it doesn't have its strengths, but i think in general it was a weaker element.

    I don't know what you were talking about I think that it isn't the strongest but defenitaly the most versitial.

    Sweat ice snow water plants spit blood any thing with water in it is preety much in a lot of trouble.

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    toosmooth

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    I reported them for doing this. Just don't post in here.
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    Ratraccoon

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    QUOTE]*sigh* People, please do not post here, this thread is long dead.[/QUOTE] You know sometimes I wonder if necromancers are into fourm necophilia.
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    Blind_Legend

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    ReflectTheStorm wrote:

    I'm suprised Nick let them use the word "blood".

    Score one for the creators!


    let see if you were nick.


    would you rather put bloodbending... or bodybending on a kids show
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