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    anakinjjg

    [1]Jul 22, 2008
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    What do you think are the limits for the elements. As we've seen firebenders can fly, Bumi can pick up houses, Toph can bend metal, and Aang can run at like the speed of a cheetah. So how far can an element go.

    Notice I didn't put water because nothing spectcular but blood bending has happened for them.

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    dark_aquatus

    [2]Jul 22, 2008
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    anakinjjg wrote:

    What do you think are the limits for the elements. As we've seen firebenders can fly, Bumi can pick up houses, Toph can bend metal, and Aang can run at like the speed of a cheetah. So how far can an element go.

    Notice I didn't put water because nothing spectcular but blood bending has happened for them.


    Water : Bloodbending
    Fire: Fly, Lightning
    Earth: Stick on walls, Metalbending
    Air: Fly (which also protects from attacks and acts like a round shield), create tornado.

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    anakinjjg

    [3]Jul 22, 2008
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    dark_aquatus wrote:
    anakinjjg wrote:

    What do you think are the limits for the elements. As we've seen firebenders can fly, Bumi can pick up houses, Toph can bend metal, and Aang can run at like the speed of a cheetah. So how far can an element go.

    Notice I didn't put water because nothing spectcular but blood bending has happened for them.

    Water : Bloodbending Fire: Fly, Lightning Earth: Stick on walls, Metalbending Air: Fly (which also protects from attacks and acts like a round shield), create tornado. Ps. Don't you think you've made enough threads today? You're not doing anyone a favor by going on like this...

    I can make as many threads as I want. What are you a stalker?

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    dark_aquatus

    [4]Jul 22, 2008
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    anakinjjg wrote:
    dark_aquatus wrote:
    anakinjjg wrote:

    What do you think are the limits for the elements. As we've seen firebenders can fly, Bumi can pick up houses, Toph can bend metal, and Aang can run at like the speed of a cheetah. So how far can an element go.

    Notice I didn't put water because nothing spectcular but blood bending has happened for them.

    Water : Bloodbending Fire: Fly, Lightning Earth: Stick on walls, Metalbending Air: Fly (which also protects from attacks and acts like a round shield), create tornado. Ps. Don't you think you've made enough threads today? You're not doing anyone a favor by going on like this...

    I can make as many threads as I want. What are you a stalker?



    I'm not a stalker, but I'm also NOT a troll. If you don't watch out, people will think YOU are one, because of the flooding...
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    -TheSecondSign-

    [5]Jul 22, 2008
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    Firebenders can only fly during the comet, and earthbenders can't bend when they're not connected to the ground or something that can substitute a little as ground.

    Waterbenders can only perform special techniques at the full moon, and almost all waterbenders can't bend large amounts of water easily, and those that can have their limits in terms of stamina.

    There's only one airbender, and he's the Avatar, so we don't know the limitations of an ordinary airbender.

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    misterham

    [6]Jul 22, 2008
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    -TheSecondSign- wrote:

    Firebenders can only fly during the comet, and earthbenders can't bend when they're not connected to the ground or something that can substitute a little as ground.

    Waterbenders can only perform special techniques at the full moon, and almost all waterbenders can't bend large amounts of water easily, and those that can have their limits in terms of stamina.

    There's only one airbender, and he's the Avatar, so we don't know the limitations of an ordinary airbender.


    it depends on how long they must stay in the air to consider flying

    lightning is the only "special" bending. all the others are bending the same element in different conditions.

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    dark_aquatus

    [7]Jul 22, 2008
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    -TheSecondSign- wrote:

    Firebenders can only fly during the comet, and earthbenders can't bend when they're not connected to the ground or something that can substitute a little as ground.

    Waterbenders can only perform special techniques at the full moon, and almost all waterbenders can't bend large amounts of water easily, and those that can have their limits in terms of stamina.

    There's only one airbender, and he's the Avatar, so we don't know the limitations of an ordinary airbender.



    Firebenders can fly without the comet, think about Azula. Also, earthbenders CAN bend earth without being connected to it, think about Aang when he was flying around while fighting the Firelord! One special technique, which is draining water out of their surroundings, doesn't require full moon. Ow, and Katara might be able to bloodbend without full moon if she practises enough... Don't forget that she's only 14 years old.
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    [8]Jul 22, 2008
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    dark_aquatus wrote:
    -TheSecondSign- wrote:

    Firebenders can only fly during the comet, and earthbenders can't bend when they're not connected to the ground or something that can substitute a little as ground.

    Waterbenders can only perform special techniques at the full moon, and almost all waterbenders can't bend large amounts of water easily, and those that can have their limits in terms of stamina.

    There's only one airbender, and he's the Avatar, so we don't know the limitations of an ordinary airbender.

    Firebenders can fly without the comet, think about Azula. Also, earthbenders CAN bend earth without being connected to it, think about Aang when he was flying around while fighting the Firelord! One special technique, which is draining water out of their surroundings, doesn't require full moon. Ow, and Katara might be able to bloodbend without full moon if she practises enough... Don't forget that she's only 14 years old.

    Azula can not fly. If she could fly, why did she only boost herself up to the cable in The Boiling Rock?

    If she could FLY, which means to remain in the air beyond a simple boosted jump, she would have FLOWN THERE and assaulted them from an airborn location, and sank the gondola.

    Aang was in the Avatar State, and is the Avatar. He gains a major boost in power that allows him to go around the traditional rules of bending.

    I don't consider that a special technique when you put it in the same league as lightningbending or bloodbending.

    What is with everyone's fascination with no full moon bloodbending? What the crap? That would be the gayest thing ever. The entire point of the show is BALANCE, being able to control a person at any time anywhere would ruin it, because she could beat anyone.

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    dark_aquatus

    [9]Jul 22, 2008
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    Azula didn't fly for to long because it would've drain her powers too much. She has proven she can fly, by flying for a brief moment. The AS only gives the knowledge/energy of other BENDERS before him. If he can fly during the AS, it means some other airbender-avatar should have ''invented'' it without the AS.
    I didnt know there were more people then just me that thought bloodbending should be possible without full moon, lol! Still, I think it is possible. The fact that the creators didn't let the gAang wait untill full moon and let Katar handle the job tells us that they didn't want the show to focus on this ''imbalance''
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    [10]Jul 22, 2008
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    Even with Azula's stamina, flight is impossible for anymore than a minute without the comet. She could "hover" slowly, but high speed, high altitude flight would require generating fire of such immense proportions to be in any way sensible at all that it would drain even Ozai in less than maybe three minutes. And even then, they wouldn't be able to manevuer very well due to the limitations, so the idea of firebenders flying is not only bollocks, but it's retarded.

    And there is an "Avatar Level Bending", in which bending is more powerful and there are less limitations to it. Aang is the only earthbender to bend in that way that I can remember. Other ranged earthbending attacks are waves of earth or launched chunks of it that shoot out of the ground. If it's in the air, even Toph has to physically touch the rock to manipulate it (Which is why she punches the rock in "The Blind Bandit" to destroy it)

    And bloodbending outside the full moon is the dumbest idea I've ever heard. If you want to throw out any fair fight at any time at all with anyone, then bloodbending it is. But if the creators ever start going bat**** with the special abilities and other abilities of bending (Like Toph metalbending at a distance) I am done watching the show.

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    suss2it

    [11]Jul 22, 2008
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    -TheSecondSign- wrote:

    Even with Azula's stamina, flight is impossible for anymore than a minute without the comet. She could "hover" slowly, but high speed, high altitude flight would require generating fire of such immense proportions to be in any way sensible at all that it would drain even Ozai in less than maybe three minutes. And even then, they wouldn't be able to manevuer very well due to the limitations, so the idea of firebenders flying is not only bollocks, but it's retarded.

    And there is an "Avatar Level Bending", in which bending is more powerful and there are less limitations to it. Aang is the only earthbender to bend in that way that I can remember. Other ranged earthbending attacks are waves of earth or launched chunks of it that shoot out of the ground. If it's in the air, even Toph has to physically touch the rock to manipulate it (Which is why she punches the rock in "The Blind Bandit" to destroy it)

    And bloodbending outside the full moon is the dumbest idea I've ever heard. If you want to throw out any fair fight at any time at all with anyone, then bloodbending it is. But if the creators ever start going bat**** with the special abilities and other abilities of bending (Like Toph metalbending at a distance) I am done watching the show.

    Show's over anyway. And I disagree with the flying part, how do you know Ozai can't do it without the Comet? Azula could somewhat do it, and Ozai is a lot more powerful than her, plus the way he was maneuvering in the air shows he as experience with that, but if the comet only comes every 100 years he'd have to have practiced without the comet.
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    dark_aquatus

    [12]Jul 22, 2008
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    The show is already done, lol! Agreed, bloodbending is imbalanced... SO WHAT?! I don't see the big problem in this, it's only a show for crying out loud...

    If someone can fly for a few minutes, it's flying. No matter how you twist it, it still remains flying. Toph is possible to earth bend without physically touch the earth since she has hold rocks above her head and playing with small chunks of rocks without touching them. I'd say she can't do anything more than that because she's blind. Agreed, in the AS the avatar get's more powerfull, but if the avatar can do certain things in the AS, like earthbending from a large distance of the earth and flying with airbending, it is officially POSSIBLE!
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    suss2it wrote:
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    Even with Azula's stamina, flight is impossible for anymore than a minute without the comet. She could "hover" slowly, but high speed, high altitude flight would require generating fire of such immense proportions to be in any way sensible at all that it would drain even Ozai in less than maybe three minutes. And even then, they wouldn't be able to manevuer very well due to the limitations, so the idea of firebenders flying is not only bollocks, but it's retarded.

    And there is an "Avatar Level Bending", in which bending is more powerful and there are less limitations to it. Aang is the only earthbender to bend in that way that I can remember. Other ranged earthbending attacks are waves of earth or launched chunks of it that shoot out of the ground. If it's in the air, even Toph has to physically touch the rock to manipulate it (Which is why she punches the rock in "The Blind Bandit" to destroy it)

    And bloodbending outside the full moon is the dumbest idea I've ever heard. If you want to throw out any fair fight at any time at all with anyone, then bloodbending it is. But if the creators ever start going bat**** with the special abilities and other abilities of bending (Like Toph metalbending at a distance) I am done watching the show.

    Show's over anyway. And I disagree with the flying part, how do you know Ozai can't do it without the Comet? Azula could somewhat do it, and Ozai is a lot more powerful than her, plus the way he was maneuvering in the air shows he as experience with that, but if the comet only comes every 100 years he'd have to have practiced without the comet.

    He could have practiced other techniques (Such as boosting yourself) and he MAY be able to hover without it, but I seriously doubt he could just blast off and fly around at high speed without the help of the comet. I can see temporary, slow, or mid speed hovering if you had tremendous, virtually limitless stamina, perfected control of constant breathing (You would have to be able to perfectly control your breathing constantly to sustain the fire) and you couldn't do much other bending. The idea of putting the stress of flying continuously in conjunction with powerful fire attacks sounds ridiculous, considering doing so requires breath control and I doubt any bender can stress themselves to that limit.

    The idea of hovering, I can see. But flying and attacking with a lot of power or lightning without the comet? No way. No way is that even possible. You would physically and mentally destroy yourself doing that.

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    [14]Jul 22, 2008
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    I agree with that. Flying and attacking wouldn't be possible without the comet. Flying and lightning weren't even possible WITH the comet...
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    -TheSecondSign- wrote:
    suss2it wrote:
    -TheSecondSign- wrote:

    Even with Azula's stamina, flight is impossible for anymore than a minute without the comet. She could "hover" slowly, but high speed, high altitude flight would require generating fire of such immense proportions to be in any way sensible at all that it would drain even Ozai in less than maybe three minutes. And even then, they wouldn't be able to manevuer very well due to the limitations, so the idea of firebenders flying is not only bollocks, but it's retarded.

    And there is an "Avatar Level Bending", in which bending is more powerful and there are less limitations to it. Aang is the only earthbender to bend in that way that I can remember. Other ranged earthbending attacks are waves of earth or launched chunks of it that shoot out of the ground. If it's in the air, even Toph has to physically touch the rock to manipulate it (Which is why she punches the rock in "The Blind Bandit" to destroy it)

    And bloodbending outside the full moon is the dumbest idea I've ever heard. If you want to throw out any fair fight at any time at all with anyone, then bloodbending it is. But if the creators ever start going bat**** with the special abilities and other abilities of bending (Like Toph metalbending at a distance) I am done watching the show.

    Show's over anyway. And I disagree with the flying part, how do you know Ozai can't do it without the Comet? Azula could somewhat do it, and Ozai is a lot more powerful than her, plus the way he was maneuvering in the air shows he as experience with that, but if the comet only comes every 100 years he'd have to have practiced without the comet.

    He could have practiced other techniques (Such as boosting yourself) and he MAY be able to hover without it, but I seriously doubt he could just blast off and fly around at high speed without the help of the comet. I can see temporary, slow, or mid speed hovering if you had tremendous, virtually limitless stamina, perfected control of constant breathing (You would have to be able to perfectly control your breathing constantly to sustain the fire) and you couldn't do much other bending. The idea of putting the stress of flying continuously in conjunction with powerful fire attacks sounds ridiculous, considering doing so requires breath control and I doubt any bender can stress themselves to that limit.

    The idea of hovering, I can see. But flying and attacking with a lot of power or lightning without the comet? No way. No way is that even possible. You would physically and mentally destroy yourself doing that.

    The comet doesn't accelerate one's skill, it merely enhances the amount of fire one can use. Therefore the skills he used in his battle against Aang, must of come from somewhere, before the comet.
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    The idea of doing both is ridiculous. You would be exhausted in a few minutes, at most.

    To control your body to fly would require great strain. It would all you could do effectively. You may have a few random little fire blasts, but to make a big sheet or blast? No way, that's insane.

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    dark_aquatus wrote:
    anakinjjg wrote:
    dark_aquatus wrote:
    anakinjjg wrote:

    What do you think are the limits for the elements. As we've seen firebenders can fly, Bumi can pick up houses, Toph can bend metal, and Aang can run at like the speed of a cheetah. So how far can an element go.

    Notice I didn't put water because nothing spectcular but blood bending has happened for them.

    Water : Bloodbending Fire: Fly, Lightning Earth: Stick on walls, Metalbending Air: Fly (which also protects from attacks and acts like a round shield), create tornado. Ps. Don't you think you've made enough threads today? You're not doing anyone a favor by going on like this...

    I can make as many threads as I want. What are you a stalker?

    I'm not a stalker, but I'm also NOT a troll. If you don't watch out, people will think YOU are one, because of the flooding...
    There's a lot of truth to this post, I'd take a break on the threads.
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    suss2it wrote:
    -TheSecondSign- wrote:
    suss2it wrote:
    -TheSecondSign- wrote:

    Even with Azula's stamina, flight is impossible for anymore than a minute without the comet. She could "hover" slowly, but high speed, high altitude flight would require generating fire of such immense proportions to be in any way sensible at all that it would drain even Ozai in less than maybe three minutes. And even then, they wouldn't be able to manevuer very well due to the limitations, so the idea of firebenders flying is not only bollocks, but it's retarded.

    And there is an "Avatar Level Bending", in which bending is more powerful and there are less limitations to it. Aang is the only earthbender to bend in that way that I can remember. Other ranged earthbending attacks are waves of earth or launched chunks of it that shoot out of the ground. If it's in the air, even Toph has to physically touch the rock to manipulate it (Which is why she punches the rock in "The Blind Bandit" to destroy it)

    And bloodbending outside the full moon is the dumbest idea I've ever heard. If you want to throw out any fair fight at any time at all with anyone, then bloodbending it is. But if the creators ever start going bat**** with the special abilities and other abilities of bending (Like Toph metalbending at a distance) I am done watching the show.

    Show's over anyway. And I disagree with the flying part, how do you know Ozai can't do it without the Comet? Azula could somewhat do it, and Ozai is a lot more powerful than her, plus the way he was maneuvering in the air shows he as experience with that, but if the comet only comes every 100 years he'd have to have practiced without the comet.

    He could have practiced other techniques (Such as boosting yourself) and he MAY be able to hover without it, but I seriously doubt he could just blast off and fly around at high speed without the help of the comet. I can see temporary, slow, or mid speed hovering if you had tremendous, virtually limitless stamina, perfected control of constant breathing (You would have to be able to perfectly control your breathing constantly to sustain the fire) and you couldn't do much other bending. The idea of putting the stress of flying continuously in conjunction with powerful fire attacks sounds ridiculous, considering doing so requires breath control and I doubt any bender can stress themselves to that limit.

    The idea of hovering, I can see. But flying and attacking with a lot of power or lightning without the comet? No way. No way is that even possible. You would physically and mentally destroy yourself doing that.

    The comet doesn't accelerate one's skill, it merely enhances the amount of fire one can use. Therefore the skills he used in his battle against Aang, must of come from somewhere, before the comet.

    I can't see a firebender flying and pefrorming powerful attacks without the comet. The amount of control that would take is too much for me to believe. He may have known how to fly or hover prior to the comet, but he probably couldn't attack at the same time before the comet. Combining the two wouldn't be that hard once you could do both seperately. You'd just need to extra force.

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    dark_aquatus

    [19]Jul 22, 2008
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    suss2it is right, it only boosts the amount of fire u can produce as a firebender. You saw during the last agni kai between zuko and his sister that all the buildings around them were burning. That shows us that the amount of produced fire was to high in order to keep controlling it as perfectly as they normally could. Same with jeong jeong btw (forgot how u wire his name srry lol).
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    [20]Jul 22, 2008
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    -TheSecondSign- wrote:
    suss2it wrote:
    -TheSecondSign- wrote:
    suss2it wrote:
    -TheSecondSign- wrote:

    Even with Azula's stamina, flight is impossible for anymore than a minute without the comet. She could "hover" slowly, but high speed, high altitude flight would require generating fire of such immense proportions to be in any way sensible at all that it would drain even Ozai in less than maybe three minutes. And even then, they wouldn't be able to manevuer very well due to the limitations, so the idea of firebenders flying is not only bollocks, but it's retarded.

    And there is an "Avatar Level Bending", in which bending is more powerful and there are less limitations to it. Aang is the only earthbender to bend in that way that I can remember. Other ranged earthbending attacks are waves of earth or launched chunks of it that shoot out of the ground. If it's in the air, even Toph has to physically touch the rock to manipulate it (Which is why she punches the rock in "The Blind Bandit" to destroy it)

    And bloodbending outside the full moon is the dumbest idea I've ever heard. If you want to throw out any fair fight at any time at all with anyone, then bloodbending it is. But if the creators ever start going bat**** with the special abilities and other abilities of bending (Like Toph metalbending at a distance) I am done watching the show.

    Show's over anyway. And I disagree with the flying part, how do you know Ozai can't do it without the Comet? Azula could somewhat do it, and Ozai is a lot more powerful than her, plus the way he was maneuvering in the air shows he as experience with that, but if the comet only comes every 100 years he'd have to have practiced without the comet.

    He could have practiced other techniques (Such as boosting yourself) and he MAY be able to hover without it, but I seriously doubt he could just blast off and fly around at high speed without the help of the comet. I can see temporary, slow, or mid speed hovering if you had tremendous, virtually limitless stamina, perfected control of constant breathing (You would have to be able to perfectly control your breathing constantly to sustain the fire) and you couldn't do much other bending. The idea of putting the stress of flying continuously in conjunction with powerful fire attacks sounds ridiculous, considering doing so requires breath control and I doubt any bender can stress themselves to that limit.

    The idea of hovering, I can see. But flying and attacking with a lot of power or lightning without the comet? No way. No way is that even possible. You would physically and mentally destroy yourself doing that.

    The comet doesn't accelerate one's skill, it merely enhances the amount of fire one can use. Therefore the skills he used in his battle against Aang, must of come from somewhere, before the comet.

    I can't see a firebender flying and pefrorming powerful attacks without the comet. The amount of control that would take is too much for me to believe. He may have known how to fly or hover prior to the comet, but he probably couldn't attack at the same time before the comet. Combining the two wouldn't be that hard once you could do both seperately. You'd just need to extra force.

    Why exactly do you think it's straining to do both, when Azula did it and she wasn't tired in the least?
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