it's hard to get an equal fight between waterbenders/earthbenders with other benders cause not everyone would agree on how much water or earth in the battlefield is fair.

yeah, katara's fight with zuko was definately unfair. snow everywhere, tired zuko, moon out, but you can't really judge them by the fights at the north pole. katara most likely got better at waterbending (she owned that swamp monster in "the swamp") and zuko at firebending.

There isnt really a power level in this show. Just skill levels.

We know dude, we know. We- no two's enough.

ooo. katara for level 1 w000t

arthuroys wrote:

zachman9393 wrote: Okay, okay: Aang is on Level 1 as an AIRBENDER. WE KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE OTHER AIRBENDER SO SHE DOESN'T COUNT. Yes, I should have put Pakku on there. I know Aang isn't the most powerful Waterbender. Aang's level is based on himself both normal for Airbending and in the Avatar state for Waterbending. Okay, phew, that should stop all your bickering Actually, we know very little about how Aang rated among the Airbenders.?? True, among the student Airbenders Aang was a prodigy, but if you recall from the Storm, he hadn't completed his training before he ran off.?? For all we know, fully realized Airbenders can do far more than Aang has done so far (Airbend a whirlwind big enough to destroy the Northern Fleet, for instance).?? This is unlikely, but fully possible.???? In all probability, Aang is probably the Airbending equivalent of King Bumi, Master Paku, or Iroh.?? Azula and Toph would probably be on a similar level below these guys, and Katara and Zuko would be on a level below Azula and Toph. ---------------------------- Also, for all of those who say that Zuko is worse than Katara, consider all the advantages Katara had going for her when she came to fight Zuko.?? It would be like Zuko fighting Katara at midday shortly after Katara has finished that trek in "The Desert". No chance.

I put him up at level 1 excluding the other Airbender kids from the list, only rating him against other Airbenders we really know well, and thats Gyatso and the airbending lady- he seems to hold his own preety well against those tow, and since those 2 are dead, he goes into level 1. He's also level1 cuz of his Avatar state.

again, i don't think that the avatar state should count since it's not something he can control (can't go in or out of it by will). and you shouldn't rate aang only against other airbenders cause then it's not a universal power level list

and you never saw gyatso airbend so you can't really compare it to him, and he is definately not at the same level of the airbending avatar yet

I'm surprised at how many differing ideas there are about this.?? My little thread is becoming increasingly popular.

Yah.

No way. Bumi is hardcore. In the first Onimashu episode i think he called himself "the most powerful earthbender". Seeing as that he is over 100 years old and a King i imagine he has seen some really powerful benders, and he can still make that claim.

Well, just my own thoughts.

1.) Sokka doesn't belong on this list, being as how he's not a bender.?? But let's be fair to his combat abilities--he's capable of deflecting multiple thrown knives, knows how to use multiple weapons (war club, boomerang, machete, and just a little training in fan), and has guts.

He's just also the butt of every joke in the universe.

2.) An odd thought regarding our crazy martial arts masters, particularly Bumi and Iroh: They grow greater by incorporating the philosophies of the other elements into themselves.?? The latter is obviously the best example of
this, with his discussion of the traits of the four elements.?? But Bumi showed how much he groks air early on: his entire lesson to Aang is to seek different perspectives and methods, which Toph names as a characteristic that can't reconcile itself with Earth's need to stand strong.?? And yet Bumi does, and so aside from Avatar-level benders, he's probably the greatest Earthbender out on the board.

I agree with the very first post. But, I think that Katara should go on Tophs level.