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Azula's Blue Firebending

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    fngrsfknfshrpnr

    [1]May 27, 2006
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    I been tring to figure out the link between normal red/orange firebending and the more powerful blue firebending seen mastered by Azula. Now i only call it blue fire because thats how it was referred to in The Chase. But when i first seen her practicing on her ship in the beginning of the season I believed that she was bending lightning.

    So i wondered whether or not lightning was in any way related to fire. i been looking up some info and found on wikipedia (yes, i know. not always reliable) that both fire and lightning are forms of plasma. what i read said that plasma is ionized gas. perhaps scientifically speaking, firebending in its essence is the ionization of the electrons?? around the bender. which could be why firebenders can bend seemingly everywhere (well, maybe not underwater.)

    anyways, heres the article i read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_%28physics%29

    if you dont want to read all the mumbo jumbo, skip down to the Common Plasmas section and theres a lil chart classifying fire and lightning under terrestial plasmas.

    one more thing about firebending that seems obvious to me now but i never thought of before is that in order to create the combustion of fire, oxygen is needed. and according to jeong jeong, a master firebender, breathing (taking in oxygen) is integral to firebending

    sorry this is so long, i just thought it was interesting


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    Chaos_44

    [2]May 27, 2006
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    Finally! Now I know why firebenders can bend light! But that doesn't explain why she uses blue fire at a present state and used to always use fire...
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    phoenixfirework

    [3]May 27, 2006
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    This is interesting. But I don't see why so many find this topic so confusing. Water goes with ice, yet it can also control plants. Just cause water is in it. If Waterbenders can do that. Then why not the water within humans, or bend the water in the air. You'd think plants would go with Earth instead, huh. Anyway, lightning can sometimes cause fires. And it's really hot (right?). So, maybe they really do go together. And if not, just focus on the entire confusing section of the overly powerful Waterbending and the lightning bending won't seem as confusing. And also, water can cut through wood, I've seen it in the show. Well, what about air, sand storms can tear the flesh right off of people. And we haven't seen anything nearly as close to that sort of power from Aang.
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    riddler062

    [4]Jun 2, 2006
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    in the Chase though she used the blue fire from her finger tips then it became our normal fire

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    Akiyalover

    [5]Jun 2, 2006
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    Did you know that the hotter fire is the brighter the color. Blue is supposed to be the color of a flame when it's hottest. So since she is a master at what she does. She has the ability to control hotter fire.
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    dd409

    [6]Jun 2, 2006
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    lightning is electricity in the form of heat, traveling from the clouds to the ground, and all the blue fire means is that it is hotter than red fire

    all basic science

    also anyone elso notice in Storm i think it was (not sure) that Iroh deflected the lighning bolt away from the ship?

    and akiyalover, i think white is hotter than blue, but blue is definately??near the top

    Edited on 06/02/2006 2:35pm
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    Cybertoy00

    [7]Jun 2, 2006
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    Hmmf. that might be it. Remember, whenever a??welding torch??is on the flame appears to blue, an indication of the level of heat. I think the 'burn chart' goes something like this.

    (from strongest to weakest)

    White

    Blue

    Yellow

    Red

    does that help?

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    FireandIce1400

    [8]Jun 2, 2006
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    It is most likely just a sougher and hotter fire. It is the next and finily level of fire bending.
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    domond123

    [9]Jun 2, 2006
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    Yeah science has proved that the strongest color of fire is blue. This is proven by how they group stars. Red giant-is the least hotest and dieing. Orange star- is middle age and is medium heat compared to a red giant and blue star. Blue star- one of the youngest stars hottest. I think that's it.
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    StarSworder89

    [10]Jun 2, 2006
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    Azula's firebending is quite different from any other firebending that we have seen to date. She can bend both lightning and fire. This relationship while not only scientific is also present in other games, and shows (Magic: The Gathering is just one example where the color "red" has both fire and lightning attributes). Azula is not the only one who we have seen come in contact with the lightning side of firebending. Iroh, although we aren't sure if he can actually use it, knew that Azula had this capability and was able to redirect a lightning blast in an earlier episode in season 2.

    I do think it's really interesting how the show seems to have taken a decently scientific approach to deciding what types of powers fall under each bending style. We still have yet to learn a whole lot about Earth bending, but maybe with Toph we'll learn some interesting things about that too!

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    UGamer08

    [11]Jun 3, 2006
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    phoenixfirework wrote:
    This is interesting. But I don't see why so many find this topic so confusing. Water goes with ice, yet it can also control plants. Just cause water is in it. If Waterbenders can do that. Then why not the water within humans, or bend the water in the air. You'd think plants would go with Earth instead, huh. Anyway, lightning can sometimes cause fires. And it's really hot (right?). So, maybe they really do go together. And if not, just focus on the entire confusing section of the overly powerful Waterbending and the lightning bending won't seem as confusing. And also, water can cut through wood, I've seen it in the show. Well, what about air, sand storms can tear the flesh right off of people. And we haven't seen anything nearly as close to that sort of power from Aang.

    According to the official website, master waterbenders can bend the water at close range. It is a very high level technique and is??one of the most??powerful in the bending arts.??The website also??says that benders can collect moisture from the air and ground and we've even seen Katara bend clouds, which are basically condensed water in the air. As for the sand storm thing, well Aang probably has the potentially for that, especially in his Avatar State, but remember that airbender monks don't use bending to kill because of their views that all life is precious and violence should be avoided whenever possible, its also the reason why airbending is mostly defensive and lacks deadly finishing moves. Given his personality, Aang wouldn't resort to the "tearing off human flesh" thing unless he was forced into his Avatar State and lost control again. Plus keep in mind that this is a Y7 (FV) show and as much as we would love to see it, the network's gotta be careful not to go overboard and get tagged by those crappy "What you shouldn't let your kids watch" groups like FOX did. Oh well, guess we'll just have to wait for Fury of the Avatar to see if they let it slide.

    Oh one more thing:??riddler062, Azula's blue fire became normal fire in The Chase because it cooled down once it left her body. Kinda reminded me of that chick on Hellboy.

    PS: Am I the only one pissed off that we haven't seen Aang kill??in his Avatar State? Yeah, yeah??we all??saw what he did in The Siege of the North Part 2 but would it have been so bad to see some bodies floating around afterwards? Just one? Like in that episode of The Simpsons with the dolphins? I mean come on!!! ??Freakin' Y7 show limited network executives.

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    Magicalboy

    [12]Jun 3, 2006
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    i think u are 4getting that Nick shows Avatar not Cartoon Network
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    oppositehand

    [13]Jun 3, 2006
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    a lot of people that Ive read posts of seem to get the blue firebending and lightning bending confused.

    Okay so Lightning is very sudden, quick and can't be sustained for long.

    Fire is Large, consuming and nearly has no end.

    so Azula tends to use lightning when she needs something destroyed quickly. and she uses fire when she needs to pull off some big move either defensively or offensively. but lots of people don't understand why the fire is blue. but all that means is that its a much more hot and intense flame. that's why in "The Chase" when she set the wood around Aang on fire it turned orange. because Azula wasn't focused on the intesity of the flame anymore. if you've ever taken a science class and studied the different colors of different stars you see that the closer to white a flame is the more hot it is so the blue firebending is just a hotter flame.
    And even in Bitter Work Iroh said you can't control the lightning you can only guide it. which means some of those moves she pulls off couldn't be lightning.not to mention the animators seems to be clearly defining the difference between the blue flames and lightning.
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    U4ric

    [14]Jun 3, 2006
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    UGamer08 wrote:

    PS: Am I the only one pissed off that we haven't seen Aang kill??in his Avatar State? Yeah, yeah??we all??saw what he did in The Siege of the North Part 2 but would it have been so bad to see some bodies floating around afterwards? Just one? Like in that episode of The Simpsons with the dolphins? I mean come on!!! ??Freakin' Y7 show limited network executives.

    I can't speak for everyone, but my initial reaction is yes you are (or at least I hope you are). I do not need to see bodies floating around just to get the idea of what happened. The creators and/or network??may have held back on even showing the final blow out of respect of the victims of the 2004 tsunami. If you need to see bodies so badly watch something else (like the news or countless other shows). I won't even go into how unbalanced I think this question is.

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    Magicalboy

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    U4ric wrote:
    UGamer08 wrote:

    PS: Am I the only one pissed off that we haven't seen Aang kill??in his Avatar State? Yeah, yeah??we all??saw what he did in The Siege of the North Part 2 but would it have been so bad to see some bodies floating around afterwards? Just one? Like in that episode of The Simpsons with the dolphins? I mean come on!!! ??Freakin' Y7 show limited network executives.

    I can't speak for everyone, but my initial reaction is yes you are (or at least I hope you are). I do not need to see bodies floating around just to get the idea of what happened. The creators and/or network??may have held back on even showing the final blow out of respect of the victims of the 2004 tsunami. If you need to see bodies so badly watch something else (like the news or countless other shows). I won't even go into how unbalanced I think this question is.

    watch Naruto..UGamer08,its bloody and u see tons of dead bodies
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    Herbert0

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    If you follow the Infrared scale

    (Strongest to weakest)

    White

    Yellow

    Orange

    Red

    Purple

    Blue

    Black.

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    supersonicfan01

    [17]Jun 3, 2006
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    Herbert0 wrote:

    If you follow the Infrared scale

    (Strongest to weakest)

    White

    Yellow

    Orange

    Red

    Purple

    Blue

    Black.


    Are you sure that's correct? If weak is at bottom, why is blue fire weaker than red fire?
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    sluggmunki_tx

    [18]Jun 3, 2006
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    supersonicfan01 wrote:
    Herbert0 wrote:

    If you follow the Infrared scale

    (Strongest to weakest)

    White

    Yellow

    Orange

    Red

    Purple

    Blue

    Black.


    Are you sure that's correct? If weak is at bottom, why is blue fire weaker than red fire?


    Yeah, last time I checked, blue is way hotter than red and red is the coolest.
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    DPhomegurl

    [19]Jun 3, 2006
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    It is lightning.
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    Magicalboy

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    Herbert0 wrote:

    If you follow the Infrared scale

    (Strongest to weakest)

    White

    Yellow

    Orange

    Red

    Purple

    Blue

    Black.
    thats wrong
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