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    Teranef

    [1]Dec 12, 2006
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    I'd like to know why, in all these major fantasy stories, why is it always set with most people wearing robes/guys having long flowing hair? Avatar; Iroh, Roku, Pakku, Ozai (hair, not robes), Zuko (season one, hair), Gyatso (robes, no hair), the two guys hunting toph, in Harry Potter; Dumbledore, Sirius Black, Lucius Malfoy, etc., and in LOTR and SW (not as familiar with these two, but i've seen pictures and know obi wan kanobe has long hair (o am I thinking of han solo)) They're not taking place in the past as much as they are taking place in paralelle universes. Star Wars doesn't even resemble mideival cultures the way the others do and it has main characters wearing hooded robes. Why is Harry Potter even modeled after an older style culture with torches for lighting (as opposed to magic orbs or some other wizard-type thing) and everyone wearing robes? And how come so many guys have long hair in all four as well? What's with the trend of long hair and robes. It gets on my nerves, don't ask why, it just does. Why do so many have robes and long hair? Is it to look pretty or something? Why?
    Edited on 12/12/2006 2:02am
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    Miroku_of_Nite1

    [2]Dec 12, 2006
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    Umm.

    Because it is a staple of fantasy works.
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    Bountyhunterc28

    [3]Dec 12, 2006
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    Obi-Wan never really had long, long hair, it was shoulder legnth in ATOC, and Harry Potter is different then most wizarding things, well I don't know why but I guess J.K. Rowling wan't to do something different, and I guess guys didn't get hair cuts back then.
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    windseeker15

    [4]Dec 12, 2006
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    Long hair and robes rock.
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    dark_aquatus

    [5]Dec 12, 2006
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    because the long hair and the robes were normal in the ''ancient times''. these times were the times where all our current bed-time stories come from, so thats why wizards and evil witches always wear robes, and often have long hair. because of this, people often make characters in (animation) series/movies wear robes and have long hair... its pretty logical if u think about it...
    ofcourse these things almost only happen in fantasy stories, cause these stories often happen in the past, or there are characters who have some sort of 'magical abilities'' (like bending in Avatar, using ''The Force'' in Star Wars, or the magic in Harry Potter).

    maybe i helped you, or maybe i didnt (srry for my bad english in this post... im really tired )
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    Teranef

    [6]Dec 12, 2006
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    dark_aquatus wrote:
    because the long hair and the robes were normal in the ''ancient times''. these times were the times where all our current bed-time stories come from, so thats why wizards and evil witches always wear robes, and often have long hair. because of this, people often make characters in (animation) series/movies wear robes and have long hair... its pretty logical if u think about it...
    ofcourse these things almost only happen in fantasy stories, cause these stories often happen in the past, or there are characters who have some sort of 'magical abilities'' (like bending in Avatar, using ''The Force'' in Star Wars, or the magic in Harry Potter).

    maybe i helped you, or maybe i didnt (srry for my bad english in this post... im really tired )


    Okay thanks, so you're saying it's used for "magical characters" because all the original stories of "magical characters" came from ancient times where they wore robes?

    And also, why did everyone wear robes and have long hair back then . . . or perhaps I should be asking why did we switch to pants with most guys with short hair in the past 200 years? I've always wondered this



    [QUOTE-"bountyhunter"] Obi-Wan never really had long, long hair, it was shoulder legnth in ATOC,[/quote]

    Okay, then Han Solo, or maybe it was neither and i'm thinking of someone else. I don't know SW characters that well, at least I know what george lucas looks like-I MEAN Luke Skywalker . . . Why did the director give the main character such a similar name to himself? For most of my life I thought George Lucas was a Star Wars character . . .


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    lightningprince

    [7]Dec 12, 2006
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    Aangs bald.

    Just thought I'd point that out.
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    confucioussayhi

    [8]Dec 12, 2006
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    dark_aquatus wrote:
    because the long hair and the robes were normal in the ''ancient times''. these times were the times where all our current bed-time stories come from, so thats why wizards and evil witches always wear robes, and often have long hair. because of this, people often make characters in (animation) series/movies wear robes and have long hair... its pretty logical if u think about it...
    ofcourse these things almost only happen in fantasy stories, cause these stories often happen in the past, or there are characters who have some sort of 'magical abilities'' (like bending in Avatar, using ''The Force'' in Star Wars, or the magic in Harry Potter).

    maybe i helped you, or maybe i didnt (srry for my bad english in this post... im really tired )
    Thats no exuse! Don't make me find my 2nd grade teacher and have her beat you with a grammar stick!
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    ardron

    [10]Dec 12, 2006
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    lightningprince wrote:
    Aangs bald.

    Just thought I'd point that out.

    Thanx for the update captain obvious.

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    dark_aquatus

    [11]Dec 12, 2006
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    Teranef wrote:
    dark_aquatus wrote:
    because the long hair and the robes were normal in the ''ancient times''. these times were the times where all our current bed-time stories come from, so thats why wizards and evil witches always wear robes, and often have long hair. because of this, people often make characters in (animation) series/movies wear robes and have long hair... its pretty logical if u think about it... ofcourse these things almost only happen in fantasy stories, cause these stories often happen in the past, or there are characters who have some sort of 'magical abilities'' (like bending in Avatar, using ''The Force'' in Star Wars, or the magic in Harry Potter). maybe i helped you, or maybe i didnt (srry for my bad english in this post... im really tired )


    Okay thanks, so you're saying it's used for "magical characters" because all the original stories of "magical characters" came from ancient times where they wore robes?
    And also, why did everyone wear robes and have long hair back then . . . or perhaps I should be asking why did we switch to pants with most guys with short hair in the past 200 years? I've always wondered this.

    ??the hair, it was just normal back then... i mean, why not? about the robes, well... they didnt have the possibility and resources back then to create other things then that. dont forget that creating jeans isnt very easy rofl. ow and btw, not everyones wearing a pants with short??hair these days. there are still a lot of countries around the world where its normal to wear the traditional clothes. still i admit that wearing a pants with short hair is more practical then long hair with a robe, i guess thats why most people ''switched'' to pants and more pratical clothes.

    Edited on 12/12/2006 11:53pm
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    Teranef

    [12]Dec 13, 2006
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    dark_aquatus wrote:

    Teranef wrote:
    dark_aquatus wrote:
    because the long hair and the robes were normal in the ''ancient times''. these times were the times where all our current bed-time stories come from, so thats why wizards and evil witches always wear robes, and often have long hair. because of this, people often make characters in (animation) series/movies wear robes and have long hair... its pretty logical if u think about it... ofcourse these things almost only happen in fantasy stories, cause these stories often happen in the past, or there are characters who have some sort of 'magical abilities'' (like bending in Avatar, using ''The Force'' in Star Wars, or the magic in Harry Potter). maybe i helped you, or maybe i didnt (srry for my bad english in this post... im really tired )


    Okay thanks, so you're saying it's used for "magical characters" because all the original stories of "magical characters" came from ancient times where they wore robes?
    And also, why did everyone wear robes and have long hair back then . . . or perhaps I should be asking why did we switch to pants with most guys with short hair in the past 200 years? I've always wondered this.

    the hair, it was just normal back then... i mean, why not? about the robes, well... they didnt have the possibility and resources back then to create other things then that. dont forget that creating jeans isnt very easy rofl. ow and btw, not everyones wearing a pants with short hair these days. there are still a lot of countries around the world where its normal to wear the traditional clothes. still i admit that wearing a pants with short hair is more practical then long hair with a robe, i guess thats why most people ''switched'' to pants and more pratical clothes.


    You have a point, thanks

    Although what's your explaination as to why, in the western world and europe, only half the population switched to practical (most males)?
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    Space_Lion

    [13]Dec 13, 2006
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    Teranef wrote:
    dark_aquatus wrote:
    because the long hair and the robes were normal in the ''ancient times''. these times were the times where all our current bed-time stories come from, so thats why wizards and evil witches always wear robes, and often have long hair. because of this, people often make characters in (animation) series/movies wear robes and have long hair... its pretty logical if u think about it...
    ofcourse these things almost only happen in fantasy stories, cause these stories often happen in the past, or there are characters who have some sort of 'magical abilities'' (like bending in Avatar, using ''The Force'' in Star Wars, or the magic in Harry Potter).

    maybe i helped you, or maybe i didnt (srry for my bad english in this post... im really tired )


    Okay thanks, so you're saying it's used for "magical characters" because all the original stories of "magical characters" came from ancient times where they wore robes?

    And also, why did everyone wear robes and have long hair back then . . . or perhaps I should be asking why did we switch to pants with most guys with short hair in the past 200 years? I've always wondered this



    [QUOTE-"bountyhunter"] Obi-Wan never really had long, long hair, it was shoulder legnth in ATOC,


    Okay, then Han Solo, or maybe it was neither and i'm thinking of someone else. I don't know SW characters that well, at least I know what george lucas looks like-I MEAN Luke Skywalker . . . Why did the director give the main character such a similar name to himself? For most of my life I thought George Lucas was a Star Wars character . . .


    [/QUOTE]Han had 70s hairstyle. And peopled stopped wearing robes...when the spinning wheel was invented. Making it easier to make better clothing.
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    dark_aquatus

    [14]Dec 13, 2006
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    why are certain countries more advanced then others? i dont really know, its very complicated. but i do think that certain countries think that traditions are more important then other people think it is. that would partly explain the thing i guess.
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    GrishGoth

    [15]Dec 13, 2006
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    Good point, I don't know why. But you've got to admit??that??it looks pretty cool on certain people.
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    bdllbo

    [16]Dec 13, 2006
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    Robes also defined who you were in a society. They denoted royalty, peasantry, religious orders. Plus robes could be worn in layers to keep you warm. The wearing of robes probably started with the Greek/Roman toga that citizens wore and was adapted for life in northern Europe. Silk robes in China and Japan go waaaay back. Kimonos, etc. And yes, they were easy to make.

    I'm not a clothing expert, but clothing seems to fit with the times. Americans used to wear beaver pelts and bearskins. Now that it's a lot warmer here, we don't need such things.
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    8SWORDS8

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    Not alot of people wore robes in lotr but like everybody had long hair.
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    blackfire_bird

    [18]Dec 13, 2006
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    As a great Master once told me: -_- " Never try to reason with cartoon logic, for it is only to be so and no other way, you , young one are only to wonder and never to be anwsered." In short, it's just a cartoon don't try to make sense out of it !!!! :p lol
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    confucioussayhi

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    blackfire_bird wrote:
    As a great Master once told me: -_- " Never try to reason with cartoon logic, for it is only to be so and no other way, you , young one are only to wonder and never to be anwsered." In short, it's just a cartoon don't try to make sense out of it !!!! :p lol
    0_o Should've put confucious says in front.
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    Airbenderluver

    [20]Dec 13, 2006
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    robes are cool and long hair. like the hot long haired, cape/robe wearing elf on LOTR he's hott...
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