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    speechless8582

    [21]May 4, 2008
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    Basileus_Puros wrote:
    To clarify things, for everyone that may be wondering how I determined the Avatar World hkulka2974 is correct on my method. I pretty much estimated, but I have to say that tomtitan is more accurate in his/her measuring than I was, so when I said "Avatar World is probably no larger then the state of Washington" that's probably not that accurate, since is probably bigger (length and width wise) but the point was more that if the quote from episode 306 (The Avatar and the Firelord) "Ruko's island was 100 miles away but I could still feel it rumbleing..." is correct then the Avatar World is really small... .. .

    well, when Sozin said that, wasn't he standing on a boat? I was under the impression that he was talking about he was 100 miles away from Roku's island, but on his boat, not from the palace.

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    Linnzy

    [22]May 4, 2008
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    speechless8582 wrote:

    Basileus_Puros wrote:
    To clarify things, for everyone that may be wondering how I determined the Avatar World hkulka2974 is correct on my method. I pretty much estimated, but I have to say that tomtitan is more accurate in his/her measuring than I was, so when I said "Avatar World is probably no larger then the state of Washington" that's probably not that accurate, since is probably bigger (length and width wise) but the point was more that if the quote from episode 306 (The Avatar and the Firelord) "Ruko's island was 100 miles away but I could still feel it rumbleing..." is correct then the Avatar World is really small... .. .

    well, when Sozin said that, wasn't he standing on a boat? I was under the impression that he was talking about he was 100 miles away from Roku's island, but on his boat, not from the palace.

    I just checked, no, he wasn't on a boat, but nothing says that he was in his palace either. All we see is that he is standing on some kind of balcony.

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    hkulka2974

    [23]May 4, 2008
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    PsychoPass wrote:
    hkulka2974 wrote:
    hkulka2974 wrote:
    tomtitan wrote:
    This:

    are you sure that 100 miles is in proportion to the map?

    because roku's island is definetly not that far from the capita l

    oops actually it is

    Maybe it's just a plot hole. I.e. An ACTUAL mistake... According to that map... no way the Avatar World is 550 miles in diameter. -_-'

    i doubt that the avatar world is that small to but its just a mistake made by the creators in the avatar and the firelord.

    what if theres a whole other side of the avatar globe?

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    hkulka2974

    [24]May 4, 2008
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    Linnzy wrote:
    speechless8582 wrote:

    Basileus_Puros wrote:
    To clarify things, for everyone that may be wondering how I determined the Avatar World hkulka2974 is correct on my method. I pretty much estimated, but I have to say that tomtitan is more accurate in his/her measuring than I was, so when I said "Avatar World is probably no larger then the state of Washington" that's probably not that accurate, since is probably bigger (length and width wise) but the point was more that if the quote from episode 306 (The Avatar and the Firelord) "Ruko's island was 100 miles away but I could still feel it rumbleing..." is correct then the Avatar World is really small... .. .

    well, when Sozin said that, wasn't he standing on a boat? I was under the impression that he was talking about he was 100 miles away from Roku's island, but on his boat, not from the palace.

    I just checked, no, he wasn't on a boat, but nothing says that he was in his palace either. All we see is that he is standing on some kind of balcony.

    the balcony he was standing on was in the capital most probably

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    SpiffyBacon

    [25]May 4, 2008
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    hkulka2974 wrote:
    Linnzy wrote:
    speechless8582 wrote:

    Basileus_Puros wrote:
    To clarify things, for everyone that may be wondering how I determined the Avatar World hkulka2974 is correct on my method. I pretty much estimated, but I have to say that tomtitan is more accurate in his/her measuring than I was, so when I said "Avatar World is probably no larger then the state of Washington" that's probably not that accurate, since is probably bigger (length and width wise) but the point was more that if the quote from episode 306 (The Avatar and the Firelord) "Ruko's island was 100 miles away but I could still feel it rumbleing..." is correct then the Avatar World is really small... .. .

    well, when Sozin said that, wasn't he standing on a boat? I was under the impression that he was talking about he was 100 miles away from Roku's island, but on his boat, not from the palace.

    I just checked, no, he wasn't on a boat, but nothing says that he was in his palace either. All we see is that he is standing on some kind of balcony.

    the balcony he was standing on was in the capital most probably

    Since humans can only see 5 to 7 miles toward the horizon when standing at sea level, and we don't know how tall the balcony is that Sozin is standing on, it may be even less than 100 miles since Sozin can see the volcano, which would make the Avatar world even smaller. But if it was smaller, the curvature of the planet would be even more apparent and would hugely lessen the line of sight.

    I say that Sozin has no idea how far away the island is and just threw a random number in the air.

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    hkulka2974

    [26]May 4, 2008
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    SpiffyBacon wrote:
    hkulka2974 wrote:
    Linnzy wrote:
    speechless8582 wrote:

    Basileus_Puros wrote:
    To clarify things, for everyone that may be wondering how I determined the Avatar World hkulka2974 is correct on my method. I pretty much estimated, but I have to say that tomtitan is more accurate in his/her measuring than I was, so when I said "Avatar World is probably no larger then the state of Washington" that's probably not that accurate, since is probably bigger (length and width wise) but the point was more that if the quote from episode 306 (The Avatar and the Firelord) "Ruko's island was 100 miles away but I could still feel it rumbleing..." is correct then the Avatar World is really small... .. .

    well, when Sozin said that, wasn't he standing on a boat? I was under the impression that he was talking about he was 100 miles away from Roku's island, but on his boat, not from the palace.

    I just checked, no, he wasn't on a boat, but nothing says that he was in his palace either. All we see is that he is standing on some kind of balcony.

    the balcony he was standing on was in the capital most probably

    Since humans can only see 5 to 7 miles toward the horizon when standing at sea level, and we don't know how tall the balcony is that Sozin is standing on, it may be even less than 100 miles since Sozin can see the volcano, which would make the Avatar world even smaller. But if it was smaller, the curvature of the planet would be even more apparent and would hugely lessen the line of sight.

    I say that Sozin has no idea how far away the island is and just threw a random number in the air.

    i doubt it. he probably gave an estimate. also:

    the balcony is obviously higher than sea level.

    it was a clear day.

    it was night

    the volcano made a huge explosion

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    SpiffyBacon

    [27]May 4, 2008
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    hkulka2974 wrote:
    SpiffyBacon wrote:
    hkulka2974 wrote:
    Linnzy wrote:
    speechless8582 wrote:

    Basileus_Puros wrote:
    To clarify things, for everyone that may be wondering how I determined the Avatar World hkulka2974 is correct on my method. I pretty much estimated, but I have to say that tomtitan is more accurate in his/her measuring than I was, so when I said "Avatar World is probably no larger then the state of Washington" that's probably not that accurate, since is probably bigger (length and width wise) but the point was more that if the quote from episode 306 (The Avatar and the Firelord) "Ruko's island was 100 miles away but I could still feel it rumbleing..." is correct then the Avatar World is really small... .. .

    well, when Sozin said that, wasn't he standing on a boat? I was under the impression that he was talking about he was 100 miles away from Roku's island, but on his boat, not from the palace.

    I just checked, no, he wasn't on a boat, but nothing says that he was in his palace either. All we see is that he is standing on some kind of balcony.

    the balcony he was standing on was in the capital most probably

    Since humans can only see 5 to 7 miles toward the horizon when standing at sea level, and we don't know how tall the balcony is that Sozin is standing on, it may be even less than 100 miles since Sozin can see the volcano, which would make the Avatar world even smaller. But if it was smaller, the curvature of the planet would be even more apparent and would hugely lessen the line of sight.

    I say that Sozin has no idea how far away the island is and just threw a random number in the air.

    i doubt it. he probably gave an estimate. also:

    the balcony is obviously higher than sea level.

    it was a clear day.

    it was night

    the volcano made a huge explosion

    Hmmmm... I'm going to do the math. How high do you think the palace balcony is in meters?
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    hkulka2974

    [28]May 4, 2008
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    SpiffyBacon wrote:
    hkulka2974 wrote:
    SpiffyBacon wrote:
    hkulka2974 wrote:
    Linnzy wrote:
    speechless8582 wrote:

    Basileus_Puros wrote:
    To clarify things, for everyone that may be wondering how I determined the Avatar World hkulka2974 is correct on my method. I pretty much estimated, but I have to say that tomtitan is more accurate in his/her measuring than I was, so when I said "Avatar World is probably no larger then the state of Washington" that's probably not that accurate, since is probably bigger (length and width wise) but the point was more that if the quote from episode 306 (The Avatar and the Firelord) "Ruko's island was 100 miles away but I could still feel it rumbleing..." is correct then the Avatar World is really small... .. .

    well, when Sozin said that, wasn't he standing on a boat? I was under the impression that he was talking about he was 100 miles away from Roku's island, but on his boat, not from the palace.

    I just checked, no, he wasn't on a boat, but nothing says that he was in his palace either. All we see is that he is standing on some kind of balcony.

    the balcony he was standing on was in the capital most probably

    Since humans can only see 5 to 7 miles toward the horizon when standing at sea level, and we don't know how tall the balcony is that Sozin is standing on, it may be even less than 100 miles since Sozin can see the volcano, which would make the Avatar world even smaller. But if it was smaller, the curvature of the planet would be even more apparent and would hugely lessen the line of sight.

    I say that Sozin has no idea how far away the island is and just threw a random number in the air.

    i doubt it. he probably gave an estimate. also:

    the balcony is obviously higher than sea level.

    it was a clear day.

    it was night

    the volcano made a huge explosion

    Hmmmm... I'm going to do the math. How high do you think the palace balcony is in meters?

    idk the fire nation palace is pretty tall. i'd say possibly over a 100

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    Eman5805

    [29]May 4, 2008
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    Avatar world map isn't to scale.

    /thread
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    hkulka2974

    [30]May 4, 2008
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    Eman5805 wrote:
    Avatar world map isn't to scale. /thread

    first of all we all know that the avatar world map isnt to scale but thats why we're proving it. also why end the thread.

    its not just about the map its about facts/mistakes in the avatar world

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    Eman5805

    [31]May 4, 2008
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    hkulka2974 wrote:

    Eman5805 wrote:
    Avatar world map isn't to scale. /thread

    first of all we all know that the avatar world map isnt to scale but thats why we're proving it. also why end the thread.

    its not just about the map its about facts/mistakes in the avatar world


    /topic then.

    If I wanna be snippy, I'm gonna be snippy. -_-
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    hkulka2974

    [32]May 4, 2008
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    Eman5805 wrote:
    hkulka2974 wrote:

    Eman5805 wrote:
    Avatar world map isn't to scale. /thread

    first of all we all know that the avatar world map isnt to scale but thats why we're proving it. also why end the thread.

    its not just about the map its about facts/mistakes in the avatar world
    /topic then. If I wanna be snippy, I'm gonna be snippy. -_-
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    Spacerac

    [33]May 4, 2008
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    Eman5805 wrote:
    Avatar world map isn't to scale.

    /thread
    That's what I said.
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    hkulka2974

    [34]May 4, 2008
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    Spacerac wrote:
    Eman5805 wrote:
    Avatar world map isn't to scale. /thread
    That's what I said.

    yeah but we just wanted to prove it out

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    NeonMidnight

    [35]May 4, 2008
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    I have to say, even if the milage of the Avatar world doesn't make sense... how do you have enough free time to measure it all out on a map?
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    hkulka2974

    [36]May 4, 2008
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    NeonMidnight wrote:
    I have to say, even if the milage of the Avatar world doesn't make sense... how do you have enough free time to measure it all out on a map?

    it doesnt really take that long especially if your not the one doing it

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    speechless8582

    [37]May 4, 2008
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    hkulka2974 wrote:
    SpiffyBacon wrote:
    hkulka2974 wrote:
    SpiffyBacon wrote:
    hkulka2974 wrote:
    Linnzy wrote:
    speechless8582 wrote:

    Basileus_Puros wrote:
    To clarify things, for everyone that may be wondering how I determined the Avatar World hkulka2974 is correct on my method. I pretty much estimated, but I have to say that tomtitan is more accurate in his/her measuring than I was, so when I said "Avatar World is probably no larger then the state of Washington" that's probably not that accurate, since is probably bigger (length and width wise) but the point was more that if the quote from episode 306 (The Avatar and the Firelord) "Ruko's island was 100 miles away but I could still feel it rumbleing..." is correct then the Avatar World is really small... .. .

    well, when Sozin said that, wasn't he standing on a boat? I was under the impression that he was talking about he was 100 miles away from Roku's island, but on his boat, not from the palace.

    I just checked, no, he wasn't on a boat, but nothing says that he was in his palace either. All we see is that he is standing on some kind of balcony.

    the balcony he was standing on was in the capital most probably

    Since humans can only see 5 to 7 miles toward the horizon when standing at sea level, and we don't know how tall the balcony is that Sozin is standing on, it may be even less than 100 miles since Sozin can see the volcano, which would make the Avatar world even smaller. But if it was smaller, the curvature of the planet would be even more apparent and would hugely lessen the line of sight.

    I say that Sozin has no idea how far away the island is and just threw a random number in the air.

    i doubt it. he probably gave an estimate. also:

    the balcony is obviously higher than sea level.

    it was a clear day.

    it was night

    the volcano made a huge explosion

    Hmmmm... I'm going to do the math. How high do you think the palace balcony is in meters?

    idk the fire nation palace is pretty tall. i'd say possibly over a 100

    that balcony looked like a boat to me when i saw this epi....lol

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    hkulka2974

    [38]May 4, 2008
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    speechless8582 wrote:
    hkulka2974 wrote:
    SpiffyBacon wrote:
    hkulka2974 wrote:
    SpiffyBacon wrote:
    hkulka2974 wrote:
    Linnzy wrote:
    speechless8582 wrote:

    Basileus_Puros wrote:
    To clarify things, for everyone that may be wondering how I determined the Avatar World hkulka2974 is correct on my method. I pretty much estimated, but I have to say that tomtitan is more accurate in his/her measuring than I was, so when I said "Avatar World is probably no larger then the state of Washington" that's probably not that accurate, since is probably bigger (length and width wise) but the point was more that if the quote from episode 306 (The Avatar and the Firelord) "Ruko's island was 100 miles away but I could still feel it rumbleing..." is correct then the Avatar World is really small... .. .

    well, when Sozin said that, wasn't he standing on a boat? I was under the impression that he was talking about he was 100 miles away from Roku's island, but on his boat, not from the palace.

    I just checked, no, he wasn't on a boat, but nothing says that he was in his palace either. All we see is that he is standing on some kind of balcony.

    the balcony he was standing on was in the capital most probably

    Since humans can only see 5 to 7 miles toward the horizon when standing at sea level, and we don't know how tall the balcony is that Sozin is standing on, it may be even less than 100 miles since Sozin can see the volcano, which would make the Avatar world even smaller. But if it was smaller, the curvature of the planet would be even more apparent and would hugely lessen the line of sight.

    I say that Sozin has no idea how far away the island is and just threw a random number in the air.

    i doubt it. he probably gave an estimate. also:

    the balcony is obviously higher than sea level.

    it was a clear day.

    it was night

    the volcano made a huge explosion

    Hmmmm... I'm going to do the math. How high do you think the palace balcony is in meters?

    idk the fire nation palace is pretty tall. i'd say possibly over a 100

    that balcony looked like a boat to me when i saw this epi....lol

    nearly all the fire nation boats that i've seen have been made in black metal

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    SpiffyBacon

    [39]May 4, 2008
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    hkulka2974 wrote:
    SpiffyBacon wrote:
    hkulka2974 wrote:
    SpiffyBacon wrote:
    hkulka2974 wrote:
    Linnzy wrote:
    speechless8582 wrote:

    Basileus_Puros wrote:
    To clarify things, for everyone that may be wondering how I determined the Avatar World hkulka2974 is correct on my method. I pretty much estimated, but I have to say that tomtitan is more accurate in his/her measuring than I was, so when I said "Avatar World is probably no larger then the state of Washington" that's probably not that accurate, since is probably bigger (length and width wise) but the point was more that if the quote from episode 306 (The Avatar and the Firelord) "Ruko's island was 100 miles away but I could still feel it rumbleing..." is correct then the Avatar World is really small... .. .

    well, when Sozin said that, wasn't he standing on a boat? I was under the impression that he was talking about he was 100 miles away from Roku's island, but on his boat, not from the palace.

    I just checked, no, he wasn't on a boat, but nothing says that he was in his palace either. All we see is that he is standing on some kind of balcony.

    the balcony he was standing on was in the capital most probably

    Since humans can only see 5 to 7 miles toward the horizon when standing at sea level, and we don't know how tall the balcony is that Sozin is standing on, it may be even less than 100 miles since Sozin can see the volcano, which would make the Avatar world even smaller. But if it was smaller, the curvature of the planet would be even more apparent and would hugely lessen the line of sight.

    I say that Sozin has no idea how far away the island is and just threw a random number in the air.

    i doubt it. he probably gave an estimate. also:

    the balcony is obviously higher than sea level.

    it was a clear day.

    it was night

    the volcano made a huge explosion

    Hmmmm... I'm going to do the math. How high do you think the palace balcony is in meters?

    idk the fire nation palace is pretty tall. i'd say possibly over a 100

    Sozin's line of sight approximates to 35,701 meters, or 22.184 miles. Soooo.... yeah. The Avatar world is a bit downsized. Either that or the palace is really really tall.

    Edited on 05/04/2008 4:08pm
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    hkulka2974

    [40]May 4, 2008
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    SpiffyBacon wrote:
    hkulka2974 wrote:
    SpiffyBacon wrote:
    hkulka2974 wrote:
    SpiffyBacon wrote:
    hkulka2974 wrote:
    Linnzy wrote:
    speechless8582 wrote:

    Basileus_Puros wrote:
    To clarify things, for everyone that may be wondering how I determined the Avatar World hkulka2974 is correct on my method. I pretty much estimated, but I have to say that tomtitan is more accurate in his/her measuring than I was, so when I said "Avatar World is probably no larger then the state of Washington" that's probably not that accurate, since is probably bigger (length and width wise) but the point was more that if the quote from episode 306 (The Avatar and the Firelord) "Ruko's island was 100 miles away but I could still feel it rumbleing..." is correct then the Avatar World is really small... .. .

    well, when Sozin said that, wasn't he standing on a boat? I was under the impression that he was talking about he was 100 miles away from Roku's island, but on his boat, not from the palace.

    I just checked, no, he wasn't on a boat, but nothing says that he was in his palace either. All we see is that he is standing on some kind of balcony.

    the balcony he was standing on was in the capital most probably

    Since humans can only see 5 to 7 miles toward the horizon when standing at sea level, and we don't know how tall the balcony is that Sozin is standing on, it may be even less than 100 miles since Sozin can see the volcano, which would make the Avatar world even smaller. But if it was smaller, the curvature of the planet would be even more apparent and would hugely lessen the line of sight.

    I say that Sozin has no idea how far away the island is and just threw a random number in the air.

    i doubt it. he probably gave an estimate. also:

    the balcony is obviously higher than sea level.

    it was a clear day.

    it was night

    the volcano made a huge explosion

    Hmmmm... I'm going to do the math. How high do you think the palace balcony is in meters?

    idk the fire nation palace is pretty tall. i'd say possibly over a 100

    Sozin's line of sight approximates to 35,701 meters, or 22.184 miles. Soooo.... yeah. The Avatar world is a bit downsized. Either that or the palace is really really tall.

    sozin:whats that white stuff beyond the sea

    palace guard:its the end of the world sir.

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