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    AvatarSensation

    [261]Jul 16, 2008
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    There's a screenshot posted by jakeman a few pages back...

    BOOM

    And yea. I get the point. Ozai's fire looks pretty darn intense. It is mostly white in the middle, and so is Aang's. *ssquee* I can't wait to see his as a fully realized Avatar!

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    simsfreak098

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    AvatarSensation wrote:

    There's a screenshot posted by jakeman a few pages back...

    BOOM

    And yea. I get the point. Ozai's fire looks pretty darn intense. It is mostly white in the middle, and so is Aang's. *ssquee* I can't wait to see his as a fully realized Avatar!


    Me too! It will be so exciting!!!
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    Axrendale

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    AvatarSensation wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:

    suss2it wrote:
    fantasyleader2 wrote:
    I heard white flames were hotter than blue. And following white that clear flames were the hottest. (My friend claims that black flames are the hottest, but I've never heard of such a thing). Besides, I'm really hoping Ozai can at least bend blue flames. Just for the sake of looking more powerful than Azula.
    Black flames don't exist, and I believe blue is hotter than white. Let's look at stars for example, blue stars are the hottest while I believe white in the second hottest.

    I hate to be a nag, but no. Blue flame is the next hottest after orange (as can be observed by looking at a lit match). White fire is as hot as you can get, hence the expression white-hot.

    I'm not sure if the temperature of fire on Earth is the same as in space though... I'm pretty sure the hottest star is blue, but I keep hearing that white fire is the hottest.

    I don't think that stars are technically made of "fire" in our sense of it. In the end really it's kind of irrelevant, as somone said of this subjct on a different thread, when the fireball hits, you're not really going to care what colour it was.

    Edited on 07/16/2008 8:12am
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    suss2it

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    daveshanFromGMU wrote:
    dannysgal wrote:

    AvatarSensation wrote:
    Im2Good wrote:
    AvatarSensation wrote:
    fantasyleader2 wrote:
    I heard white flames were hotter than blue. And following white that clear flames were the hottest. (My friend claims that black flames are the hottest, but I've never heard of such a thing). Besides, I'm really hoping Ozai can at least bend blue flames. Just for the sake of looking more powerful than Azula.
    I think that just because Azula has hotter flames doesn't mean she's more powerful. Besides, let's go back to The Firebending Masters. How many other colors of fire are there?
    Well Ozai bends alot more fire than anybody.He makes all those super big blast while all Azula does are smal streams of blue fire
    Well yea...plus that whole crazy GIANT, I repeat, GIANT, green lightning.

    Not to be a bother but where does he shoot green lightning? I'm looking through the trailer again and again but the only lightning I see is the lightning that Zuko redirects from DOBS which is kinds stupid considering it's a trailer for a movie ten episodes later. And where is he bending white fire? I see some wicked giant blasts of normal but not white. Am I just blonder than I look?

    No, you are not. Ozai's lightening was blue and his fire is orange. Which kind of sucks. I was expecting him to have cool black fire.

    Does black fire even exist?
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    hkulka2974

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    suss2it wrote:
    daveshanFromGMU wrote:
    dannysgal wrote:

    AvatarSensation wrote:
    Im2Good wrote:
    AvatarSensation wrote:
    fantasyleader2 wrote:
    I heard white flames were hotter than blue. And following white that clear flames were the hottest. (My friend claims that black flames are the hottest, but I've never heard of such a thing). Besides, I'm really hoping Ozai can at least bend blue flames. Just for the sake of looking more powerful than Azula.
    I think that just because Azula has hotter flames doesn't mean she's more powerful. Besides, let's go back to The Firebending Masters. How many other colors of fire are there?
    Well Ozai bends alot more fire than anybody.He makes all those super big blast while all Azula does are smal streams of blue fire
    Well yea...plus that whole crazy GIANT, I repeat, GIANT, green lightning.

    Not to be a bother but where does he shoot green lightning? I'm looking through the trailer again and again but the only lightning I see is the lightning that Zuko redirects from DOBS which is kinds stupid considering it's a trailer for a movie ten episodes later. And where is he bending white fire? I see some wicked giant blasts of normal but not white. Am I just blonder than I look?

    No, you are not. Ozai's lightening was blue and his fire is orange. Which kind of sucks. I was expecting him to have cool black fire.

    Does black fire even exist?

    in reality no

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    AvatarSensation

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    Axrendale wrote:
    AvatarSensation wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:

    suss2it wrote:
    fantasyleader2 wrote:
    I heard white flames were hotter than blue. And following white that clear flames were the hottest. (My friend claims that black flames are the hottest, but I've never heard of such a thing). Besides, I'm really hoping Ozai can at least bend blue flames. Just for the sake of looking more powerful than Azula.
    Black flames don't exist, and I believe blue is hotter than white. Let's look at stars for example, blue stars are the hottest while I believe white in the second hottest.

    I hate to be a nag, but no. Blue flame is the next hottest after orange (as can be observed by looking at a lit match). White fire is as hot as you can get, hence the expression white-hot.

    I'm not sure if the temperature of fire on Earth is the same as in space though... I'm pretty sure the hottest star is blue, but I keep hearing that white fire is the hottest.

    I don't think that stars are technically made of "fire" in our sense of it. In he end really it's kind of irrelevant, as somone said of this subjct on a different thread, when the fireball hits, you're not really going to care what colour it was.


    Well you do have a perfectly good point right there. XD
    But I guess we like over speculating.

    People like to know tha Ozai is more powerful than Azula, which I think he is, but some like to say that Azula is because of her blue fire. So if Ozai has a bigger fire ball, don't you think that might do more damage?
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    suss2it

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    hkulka2974 wrote:
    suss2it wrote:
    daveshanFromGMU wrote:
    dannysgal wrote:

    AvatarSensation wrote:
    Im2Good wrote:
    AvatarSensation wrote:
    fantasyleader2 wrote:
    I heard white flames were hotter than blue. And following white that clear flames were the hottest. (My friend claims that black flames are the hottest, but I've never heard of such a thing). Besides, I'm really hoping Ozai can at least bend blue flames. Just for the sake of looking more powerful than Azula.
    I think that just because Azula has hotter flames doesn't mean she's more powerful. Besides, let's go back to The Firebending Masters. How many other colors of fire are there?
    Well Ozai bends alot more fire than anybody.He makes all those super big blast while all Azula does are smal streams of blue fire
    Well yea...plus that whole crazy GIANT, I repeat, GIANT, green lightning.

    Not to be a bother but where does he shoot green lightning? I'm looking through the trailer again and again but the only lightning I see is the lightning that Zuko redirects from DOBS which is kinds stupid considering it's a trailer for a movie ten episodes later. And where is he bending white fire? I see some wicked giant blasts of normal but not white. Am I just blonder than I look?

    No, you are not. Ozai's lightening was blue and his fire is orange. Which kind of sucks. I was expecting him to have cool black fire.

    Does black fire even exist?

    in reality no

    So why would it exist in Avatar?
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    PsychoPass

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    Time to bring some physics to this conversation. :p The color of stars (in this case: red and blue) doesn't have to do with the heat or intensity of the "fire" (which is actually plasma, electrons, protons, neutrons, heavy elements, etc.). If a star is "blue" it is due to the wavelengths of it's lightwaves being compressed. Smaller wavelengths = bluer colors of light. So a blue looking star isn't blue because of the intensity of the star.

    In the case of blue fire on our planet... It has something to do with the energy levels of the electrons (which in turn release high energy photons I think). A quick google search would yield endless results though. :p
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    suss2it

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    PsychoPass wrote:
    Time to bring some physics to this conversation. :p The color of stars (in this case: red and blue) doesn't have to do with the heat or intensity of the "fire" (which is actually plasma, electrons, protons, neutrons, heavy elements, etc.). If a star is "blue" it is due to the wavelengths of it's lightwaves being compressed. Smaller wavelengths = bluer colors of light. So a blue looking star isn't blue because of the intensity of the star. In the case of blue fire on our planet... It has something to do with the energy levels of the electrons (which in turn release high energy photons I think). A quick google search would yield endless results though. :p
    You're wrong a bout the stars, Blue Stars are in fact more intense than yellow ones. The lightwaves have more to do with, the Universe, and where it's expanding. Oh and here's a link that could probably explain it better than I.
    Edited on 07/16/2008 8:10am
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    AvatarSensation

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    *gasp* Zuko's hurt! There's a gigantic burn on his chest!

    OH NO!

    Well, I'm freaking out. o.O

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    Axrendale

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    daveshanFromGMU wrote:
    dannysgal wrote:

    AvatarSensation wrote:
    Im2Good wrote:
    AvatarSensation wrote:
    fantasyleader2 wrote:
    I heard white flames were hotter than blue. And following white that clear flames were the hottest. (My friend claims that black flames are the hottest, but I've never heard of such a thing). Besides, I'm really hoping Ozai can at least bend blue flames. Just for the sake of looking more powerful than Azula.
    I think that just because Azula has hotter flames doesn't mean she's more powerful. Besides, let's go back to The Firebending Masters. How many other colors of fire are there?
    Well Ozai bends alot more fire than anybody.He makes all those super big blast while all Azula does are smal streams of blue fire
    Well yea...plus that whole crazy GIANT, I repeat, GIANT, green lightning.

    Not to be a bother but where does he shoot green lightning? I'm looking through the trailer again and again but the only lightning I see is the lightning that Zuko redirects from DOBS which is kinds stupid considering it's a trailer for a movie ten episodes later. And where is he bending white fire? I see some wicked giant blasts of normal but not white. Am I just blonder than I look?

    No, you are not. Ozai's lightening was blue and his fire is orange. Which kind of sucks. I was expecting him to have cool black fire.

    Ozai's lightning is green/white, and is absolutely gigantic when compared to anything Azula or Iroh could do. And look again at the fireball Aang blocks in the NYCC trailer. We have never seen a fireball before that has that much pure white in it. All of the other firebending in the series has been pure orang/red/yellow (or blue/white for Azula). Even if it is technically not white fire, this speaks to me of the fireball being pretty much the most intense attack we have seen from a firebender so far (plus, as I said before, it matches the white fire made by the dragons).

    In any case, Ozai does not strike me as the type to know any unique moves of his own. he strikes me rather as the type to have mastered all of the well known firebending moves to a degree beyond any other firebender. His lightning is an example of this: the ability to generate it is not unique to Ozai, but nobody can do it anywhere near as well as he can.

    If Ozai were to demonstrate a unique move however, I know what I would like it to be: lava bending. Thus far we have only seen lava bending a couple of times from various avatars. And judging from the massive amounts of lava that we glimpsed in the trailer, who knows? Ozai may very well lava bend.

    Edited on 07/16/2008 8:18pm
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    suss2it wrote:
    PsychoPass wrote:
    Time to bring some physics to this conversation. :p The color of stars (in this case: red and blue) doesn't have to do with the heat or intensity of the "fire" (which is actually plasma, electrons, protons, neutrons, heavy elements, etc.). If a star is "blue" it is due to the wavelengths of it's lightwaves being compressed. Smaller wavelengths = bluer colors of light. So a blue looking star isn't blue because of the intensity of the star.

    In the case of blue fire on our planet... It has something to do with the energy levels of the electrons (which in turn release high energy photons I think). A quick google search would yield endless results though. :p
    You're wrong a bout the stars, Blue Stars are in fact more intense than yellow ones. The lightwaves have more to do with, the Universe, and where it's expanding.


    I'll have to look that up but I'll take your word for it. But yes, the colors of the stars are primarily affected by their motions relative to us (well, our observers).
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    suss2it

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    AvatarSensation wrote:

    *gasp* Zuko's hurt! There's a gigantic burn on his chest!

    OH NO!

    Well, I'm freaking out. o.O

    I think he took a blast for Katara, if you look she's running toward him in the background, and I think he's improved to much to just get hit in the chest unless he jumped in front or something.
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    Ashley11292

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    But how is Ozai SO powerful??!!??

    Huh?

    "Spirits Will Rise". Ozai is using the spirits to fuel his power

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    simsfreak098

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    suss2it wrote:
    AvatarSensation wrote:

    *gasp* Zuko's hurt! There's a gigantic burn on his chest!

    OH NO!

    Well, I'm freaking out. o.O

    I think he took a blast for Katara, if you look she's running toward him in the background, and I think he's improved to much to just get hit in the chest unless he jumped in front or something.

    But then a sec. later, a blue flame shoots out! I think, like I said before, Zuko and Azula have an fight, Zuko gets hit, Katara just happenes to be there, Katara runs to save Zuko, but Azula blocks her.
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    suss2it

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    simsfreak098 wrote:
    suss2it wrote:
    AvatarSensation wrote:

    *gasp* Zuko's hurt! There's a gigantic burn on his chest!

    OH NO!

    Well, I'm freaking out. o.O

    I think he took a blast for Katara, if you look she's running toward him in the background, and I think he's improved to much to just get hit in the chest unless he jumped in front or something.

    But then a sec. later, a blue flame shoots out! I think, like I said before, Zuko and Azula have an fight, Zuko gets hit, Katara just happenes to be there, Katara runs to save Zuko, but Azula blocks her.
    I'd hate that, I don't want Zuko to get beat by Azula based on sheer skill. It's not fair to Zuko's character and what he's been through, but we shall see.
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    kratosgod69

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    Perhaps Avatar is above poetic justice?
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    suss2it wrote:
    AvatarSensation wrote:

    *gasp* Zuko's hurt! There's a gigantic burn on his chest!

    OH NO!

    Well, I'm freaking out. o.O

    I think he took a blast for Katara, if you look she's running toward him in the background, and I think he's improved to much to just get hit in the chest unless he jumped in front or something.

    Dang I didn't even see the burn before, I want him to live but probally not now since Azula stopped Katara.
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    simsfreak098

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    suss2it wrote:
    simsfreak098 wrote:
    suss2it wrote:
    AvatarSensation wrote:

    *gasp* Zuko's hurt! There's a gigantic burn on his chest!

    OH NO!

    Well, I'm freaking out. o.O

    I think he took a blast for Katara, if you look she's running toward him in the background, and I think he's improved to much to just get hit in the chest unless he jumped in front or something.

    But then a sec. later, a blue flame shoots out! I think, like I said before, Zuko and Azula have an fight, Zuko gets hit, Katara just happenes to be there, Katara runs to save Zuko, but Azula blocks her.
    I'd hate that, I don't want Zuko to get beat by Azula based on sheer skill. It's not fair to Zuko's character and what he's been through, but we shall see.

    I think (just a thought) that Katara might somehow use blood bending to save Zuko. Then, when Azula thinks she has won, Zuko will come out of no where a just pritty mutch rip her head off!
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    dannysgal

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    AvatarSensation wrote:

    There's a screenshot posted by jakeman a few pages back...

    BOOM

    And yea. I get the point. Ozai's fire looks pretty darn intense. It is mostly white in the middle, and so is Aang's. *ssquee* I can't wait to see his as a fully realized Avatar!

    There is absolutely no way to prove that was from Ozai. It could be from Aang or Zuko for all we know. We've seen Ozai shoot lightning before and it was plain blue, just like his fire is orange. I've watched it dozens of times but I can't see a white center.

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