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Who is the better camper?

Who is the better camper?

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    Brodoin15

    [61]Jul 9, 2009
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    I just don't get why this keeps going on and on. We have given out evidence. So much evidence, that if I was on Courtney's side, it would cause me to turn to Harold's side. Evidence that we've said over and over and obviously makes sense.

    Evidence that proves that Harold is better than Courtney. Not much, I'll admit, but still better.

    I doubt you'd be saying Harold "did the job right" if he was a deer, and Courtney a hunter, and no one hunted Harold.

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    stalemate666

    [62]Jul 9, 2009
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    Brodoin15 wrote:

    I just don't get why this keeps going on and on. We have given out evidence. So much evidence, that if I was on Courtney's side, it would cause me to turn to Harold's side. Evidence that we've said over and over and obviously makes sense.

    Evidence that proves that Harold is better than Courtney. Not much, I'll admit, but still better.

    I doubt you'd be saying Harold "did the job right" if he was a deer, and Courtney a hunter, and no one hunted Harold.


    you don't have evidence that makes Harold better then Courtney the evidence goes the other way idiot
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    Brodoin15

    [63]Jul 9, 2009
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    From the comparisons I've seen made by people on neither side, it's fair enough to say that Harold is better than Courtney.

    And have you not read what Neji, imverybasic, and I have all said. We've given you evidence, with dessert on the side! You can't say we have no evidence! Stop being stubborn.

    Edited on 07/09/2009 7:26pm
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    Brodoin15

    [65]Jul 9, 2009
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    You are giving Courtney credit for the talent show challenge when she did nothing, right? How is that a tie?

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    CrystalCoconut

    [66]Jul 9, 2009
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    Brodoin15 wrote:

    You are giving Courtney credit for the talent show challenge when she did nothing, right? How is that a tie?



    Oops EDIT
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    CrystalCoconut

    [67]Jul 9, 2009
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    We are giving BOTH Courtney and Harold WAY to much credit. You guys give Harold credit for stuff he didnt do but WOULD have

    This is how I see it
    1. Harold Wins 1-0
    2. Courtney Wins 1-1
    3. Tied (Courtney got Duncan in and got Cody out Harold just got Owen out but it was a challenge I think these acts are even in my opinion)
    4. Harold Wins 2-1
    5. Tied Both did NOT face their fears
    6. Tied (IDC if he ALMOST faced his fear the point is he didnt)
    7. Courtney 2-2 (Harold burnt the oars)
    8. Tied (Harold was a hunter and Courtney was a deer that didnt get shot ounce Courtney was lucky on not getting shot and put little effort into it yes but it doesnt matter she still got the maz score Harold got off easy as a Hunter as well)
    9. Courtney Wins 2-3 (Yup Harold WOULD have done more for the team but due to an error he got no points for the team. Sucks for Harold, Still I dont care what he WOULD have done the point is in reality he did nothing)
    10. Harold Wins 3-3
    11. Courtney Wins 3-4

    This is why we have been debating for so long
    You guys keep thinking what Harold WOULD have done deserves him credit.
    Well I do not think that Harold's WOULD be accomplishments what ANYTHING to help with the win.
    Harold was very unlucky yes and if he got more of a chance to proove himself he would have been a player.
    He WOULD have.
    To me all this WOULD BE stuff from Harold is just a myth.
    But to you it deserves credit.
    It's kinda like saying Harold "Would Be" Better Then Courtney.
    The only thing I think you guys could ever change my find on is Episode 4.
    So does Harold REALLY deserve credit for what he WOULD have done?
    Or should he get credit for what he actually did?
    Yes its unfair for Harold.
    But life is unfair.
    So this is how this debate ends (I HOPE!!!!)
    You guys believe his WOULD BE stuff deserves points.
    I dont.
    You guys have hate me or disagree with me as much as ya like.
    PEACE!
    -Crystal Coconut
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    Brodoin15

    [68]Jul 10, 2009
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    It's been proven that Chris liked Harold's dish better than Courtney's. Like the others have said, his facial expressions and smiling, and happy music shows that Chris loved Sadie's and Harold's dish. Courtney's and Duncan's were just "meh" not too bad, but not too good.

    I don't know why they didn't give Harold points, probably like the others have said, to keep the scores close, but if his dish was graded, it would have gotten above what Courtney got.

    I know I said "if" but still, there is no saying that Chris didn't like it and would give it a "0." In fact, I would not have been surprised if he gave it a 8 or 9.

    And yes Harold burnt the oars, but Courtney also voted to leave Geoff behind. That is something that a good leader does not make, to leave a comrade behind.

    Besides, with or without the oars, there is no way they could have caught up with the other team. So Harold burning the oars, they therefore got DJ to do it, thus they won the challenge, right? So in a way, Harold helped DJ win.

    Edited on 07/10/2009 7:20am
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    imverybasic

    [69]Jul 10, 2009
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    So does that mean that Harold wins that challenge?
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    CrystalCoconut

    [70]Jul 10, 2009
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    Yes Chris liked Harold's dish a lot more then Courtney's but due to an error he contributed NOTHING to the win. He WOULD have gotten better but like I said.
    IDC what WOULD have happen.

    Yes... WOULD have given it an 8 or a 9. But in reality he did not contribute to the win at all due to an error. Sucks for Harold

    You DO know that the Bass only won cuz Beth took the idol?
    So yeh no Harold did NOTHING for the win.
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    NejiShikamaru

    [71]Jul 10, 2009
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    CrystalCoconut wrote:
    Yes Chris liked Harold's dish a lot more then Courtney's but due to an error he contributed NOTHING to the win. He WOULD have gotten better but like I said. IDC what WOULD have happen. Yes... WOULD have given it an 8 or a 9. But in reality he did not contribute to the win at all due to an error. Sucks for Harold You DO know that the Bass only won cuz Beth took the idol? So yeh no Harold did NOTHING for the win.

    Well, that means Courtney contributed nothing too since the idol won it for them. So that means minus one of your Courtney points so it's tied. And the whole, Harold burnt the oars so Courtney gets a point should be deducted too since she contributes nothing because of the idol. With 2 points of Courtney's gone, I guess that means Harold wins since Harold and Courtney did nothing because of Beth and the idol.

    Edited on 07/10/2009 1:31pm
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    CrystalCoconut

    [72]Jul 10, 2009
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    NejiShikamaru wrote:

    CrystalCoconut wrote:
    Yes Chris liked Harold's dish a lot more then Courtney's but due to an error he contributed NOTHING to the win. He WOULD have gotten better but like I said. IDC what WOULD have happen. Yes... WOULD have given it an 8 or a 9. But in reality he did not contribute to the win at all due to an error. Sucks for Harold You DO know that the Bass only won cuz Beth took the idol? So yeh no Harold did NOTHING for the win.

    Well, that means Courtney contributed nothing too since the idol won it for them. So that means minus one of your Courtney points so it's tied. And the whole, Harold burnt the oars so Courtney gets a point should be deducted too since she contributes nothing because of the idol. With 2 points of Courtney's gone, I guess that means Harold wins since Harold and Courtney did nothing because of Beth and the idol.



    The Bass would have won if they just caned cuz of the bad luck of the Gophers.
    But the writers decided to show how powerful the doll was by getting DJ to SWIM all the Bass member's there.
    Yeh Harold did NOTHING for a win.
    And neither did Courtney....
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    imverybasic

    [73]Jul 10, 2009
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    If it wasn't for the doll, the Gophers would have won the challenge.
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    BomberFman34

    [74]Jul 10, 2009
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    A) For the cooking challenge Coconut, the fact of the matter is that Harold made some decent anti-pesto, while Courtney made so-so deserts.
    If you ignore the scoring completely and just look at Chris expressions rather than the (for whatever reason) messed up point system, you can see Harold did better than Courtney. B) For the talent show just because Courtney was the best prospect doesnt mean AUTOMATIC TENZ HOORAH COURTNEH!!!. She was probably their best prospect because the Bass's other acts were bad. I mean CHef woulda found DJ's too wimpy, and Geoff's somewhere in the middle ("darn kids and their skate parks...*grumble*.") best =/= 10
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    stalemate666

    [75]Jul 10, 2009
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    [QUOTE="CrystalCoconut"]We are giving BOTH Courtney and Harold WAY to much credit. You guys give Harold credit for stuff he didnt do but WOULD have

    This is how I see it
    1. Harold Wins 1-0
    2. Courtney Wins 1-1
    3. Courtney wins 1-2(4 games from a direct action is more then getting 1 person out, anyone who says Harold wins is just totally biosed)
    4. Harold Wins 2-2
    5. Tied 6. TIED, Harold didn't' get a point for his team it's a tie! 7. Courtney 2-3 (Harold burnt the oars)
    8. Tied (Harold shot 1 deer (with help) Courtney didn't get shot (with hindrance if you give the edge to Harold anywhere you have to give the edge to Courtney here)
    9. ??? can we please just omit this one since it's so messed up or at least someone watch the episode again...
    10. Harold Wins 3-3
    11. Courtney Wins 3-4

    so Courtney wins or tie (if you give the ??? to Harold) ppl who say Harold wins only make it that way because they give Harold points where he deserves none
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    NejiShikamaru

    [76]Jul 10, 2009
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    According to Coconut, the challenge went to the Bass only because of Beth and the tiki curse, which means that Courtney shouldn't get a point in episode 7, despite the fact that Harold burned the oars, none of it matters because of the curse so no Bass' contributed...according to Coconut, so Courtney loses a point. Since he won't give Harold his deserved point for the cooking challenge and blames it on the curse, shouldn't all episodes with the curse in play be cancelled out? That means no point for Courtney.

    And for the Dodgeball challenge, Harold gets the point. Courtney HELPING to wake up Duncan doesn't earn her a point. She had the idea, yes, but she wanted HAROLD to wake up Duncan, which shows she sure as hell didn't want to be responsible for the idea. Why should she get credit for something she didn't want credit for? So she confronted Duncan, Duncan didn't look very convinced. And again, his strategy failed at the end, which therefore means that Harold was the most necessary person on the whole Bass team because he could dodge and catch. Point to Harold, Courtney got people out in a group, she needed everyone else to get them out. Her one out by herself is cancelled by the fact that her anger caused her to get out by Owen. Harold was the only one ever seen catching a ball on the Bass, and the only one who could actually dodge. Without Harold, the Gophers would have won.

    Harold is the better camper, Courtney lets her anger get in the way, and her obsession with winning hinders her performance.

    Harold did 1 evil thing, Courtney did several. Harold wins more challenges and gives his all, Courtney only wants to make herself succeed.
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    CrystalCoconut

    [77]Jul 10, 2009
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    NejiShikamaru wrote:
    According to Coconut, the challenge went to the Bass only because of Beth and the tiki curse, which means that Courtney shouldn't get a point in episode 7, despite the fact that Harold burned the oars, none of it matters because of the curse so no Bass' contributed...according to Coconut, so Courtney loses a point. Since he won't give Harold his deserved point for the cooking challenge and blames it on the curse, shouldn't all episodes with the curse in play be cancelled out? That means no point for Courtney.

    And for the Dodgeball challenge, Harold gets the point. Courtney HELPING to wake up Duncan doesn't earn her a point. She had the idea, yes, but she wanted HAROLD to wake up Duncan, which shows she sure as hell didn't want to be responsible for the idea. Why should she get credit for something she didn't want credit for? So she confronted Duncan, Duncan didn't look very convinced. And again, his strategy failed at the end, which therefore means that Harold was the most necessary person on the whole Bass team because he could dodge and catch. Point to Harold, Courtney got people out in a group, she needed everyone else to get them out. Her one out by herself is cancelled by the fact that her anger caused her to get out by Owen. Harold was the only one ever seen catching a ball on the Bass, and the only one who could actually dodge. Without Harold, the Gophers would have won.

    Harold is the better camper, Courtney lets her anger get in the way, and her obsession with winning hinders her performance.

    Harold did 1 evil thing, Courtney did several. Harold wins more challenges and gives his all, Courtney only wants to make herself succeed.


    If you give Harold WOULD BE points he is better yes.
    But the point is he didn't do it.
    He DIDN'T face his fear.
    He DIDN'T contribute to the win.
    He SHOULD have and he without a doubt WOULD have gotten a better score.

    But the point is you are giving Harold credit for his almost accomplishments.

    If Harold got more of a chance to prove himself he would be better.
    But he didn't and therefore he isn't.

    Harold just had bad luck in the game.
    Courtney had good luck.
    But I do not think Harold deserves for what he ALMOST did.
    U think he does.
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    CrystalCoconut

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    U obviously aren't getting what Im saying NejiShikamaru.

    Beth took the tiki dool which gave the Gophers bad luck.

    NejiShikamaru you say I assume things... So do you

    You assumed that the Bass wouldn't beat the Gopher's if they had the oars.

    No evidence that they wouldn't.

    But there is evidence that they WOULD because the Bass had luck.

    I am not saying that we shouldnt compare episode from 8-10.

    The Bass were just lucky but the team still had to contribute to the win.

    Come on DJ facing his and pushing all the canoes?

    It came from luck.

    But the bass still would without a doubt have won with the oars.

    They just wanted to show the power the Tiki doll had.
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    alagaesian

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    This entire argument is hilarious!

    -You are arguing the exact same points over and over again.
    -You are trying to force opinions onto people who won't except any foreign opinions.
    -You are arguing about a figment of a 40-year-old's imagination.

    And I thought this could only happen during American elections.
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    CrystalCoconut

    [80]Jul 10, 2009
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    alagaesian wrote:
    This entire argument is hilarious!

    -You are arguing the exact same points over and over again.
    -You are trying to force opinions onto people who won't except any foreign opinions.
    -You are arguing about a figment of a 40-year-old's imagination.

    And I thought this could only happen during American elections.


    Ha Ha Ha
    It is

    Now I made some enemies here

    HAROLD DOESNT DESERVE CREDIT FOR WHAT HE DIDNT ACTUALLY DO
    Peace!
    -Crystal Coconut
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