Join

We're moving Forums to the Community pages. Click here for more information and updates.

Total Drama Island Forums

TELETOON

which is better Island or Action

what season do you like more?

  • Avatar of KingofKlubs13

    KingofKlubs13

    [21]Aug 24, 2009
    • member since: 08/12/09
    • level: 6
    • rank: Small Wonder
    • posts: 241
    shishkabob999 wrote:
    KingofKlubs13 wrote:
    shishkabob999 wrote:

    KingofKlubs13 wrote:
    Let's see... TDI was longer, characters weren't annoying (I compare them to Trent in this season), there was an actual villain, no breaks, someone was voted out every (or almost every) episode, not predictable (sure, at times it was, but not overall) TDA is shorter, characters are more annoying, there is no actual villain, too many breaks, too many filler challenges, extremely predictable. So yea, TDI is WAY better than TDA.
    1. TDA is projected to be as long as TDI, with reward-challenge only episodes (which are not fillers, seeing as they offer just as much development, competition and plot as the eliminations) and Aftermath specials taking it to what I've heard being 29. The only reason it's 'shorter' is because it's still in progress.

    2. TDI actually had a fairly predictable plot. Many of the episodes of both TDI (and TDA) foreshadow who will be voted off, or at least who will be in the bottom two, by the content of the episode. Think: Noah, Katie, Beth, Courtney, Harold, Eva (second time), Trent, Lindsay, Izzy (second time), Geoff, and Heather. And those are just the obvious ones.

    3. How can they be more or less annoying? They're the same characters! And gee, sorry Trent got some character development.

    4. Don't count your villans before they're through, Justin's got quite a bit going in his favor right now, and Courtney's back to antagonize everyone.



    1. Fine
    2. Every single elimination this season besides DJ was obvious.
    3. Difference between good and bad character development. Some characters I already thought were annoying because I hated them to start with, others were made that way. They went in the wrong direction imo.
    4. Doesn't matter how much time Justin has left, point is, he's done jack, and it's already extremely close to the merge. And if my prediction is right (which I'm almost positive it is) he'll get 1 person out (*coughLINDSAYcough*) and that's it, and Courtney isn't a villain, even though she'll probably do more in that department than Justin.


    Again with the Justin thing, you're being impatient. The only thing Heather did before the merge was boss around Lindsay and Beth, and annoy her team. After the merge, she kissed Trent, turned completely on Lindsay, and got her head shaved. He's got plenty of damn time.


    Sorry if I think a villain has to actually do something villainous? Yea, Heather didn't do much either, but she did get Justin out in TDI, yea, not much, but at least she did something.
    You must be registered and logged in to post a message.
  • Avatar of alagaesian

    alagaesian

    [22]Aug 25, 2009
    • member since: 12/17/07
    • level: 12
    • rank: Evil Bert
    • posts: 1,098
    I can't judge. I'm from the US, and around episode...eight, I think, I found TV.com and spoiled myself on all the eliminations. I couldn't help myself! It was interesting to see all the episodes on Youtube afterwords, but I didn't get any of the excitement that people get when they have to wait for the next episode, chit-chat on a forum about the next possible elimination, and see the episode without knowing the plotlines that will be involved.

    That said, I think TDA is better. But like I said, I'm a pretty biased judge.

    Also, in TDA, it looks like every single character has their own unique role to play in the big picture. In TDI, Ezekiel, Eva (both times), Noah, Justin, Katie, Izzy (first time), and Sadie are all obviously filler characters. In TDA, you can only possibly have Izzy and Owen if you really stretch the definition of 'filler'.
    You must be registered and logged in to post a message.
  • Avatar of Diddy_2000

    Diddy_2000

    [23]Aug 25, 2009
    • member since: 04/02/06
    • level: 8
    • rank: Super-Friend
    • posts: 357
    Wow Does anyone here have any RESPECT for opinions?
    For me TDI
    You must be registered and logged in to post a message.
  • Avatar of shishkabob999

    shishkabob999

    [24]Aug 25, 2009
    • member since: 05/23/06
    • level: 9
    • rank: Door Number 2
    • posts: 2,147
    KingofKlubs13 wrote:
    shishkabob999 wrote:
    KingofKlubs13 wrote:
    shishkabob999 wrote:

    KingofKlubs13 wrote:
    Let's see... TDI was longer, characters weren't annoying (I compare them to Trent in this season), there was an actual villain, no breaks, someone was voted out every (or almost every) episode, not predictable (sure, at times it was, but not overall) TDA is shorter, characters are more annoying, there is no actual villain, too many breaks, too many filler challenges, extremely predictable. So yea, TDI is WAY better than TDA.
    1. TDA is projected to be as long as TDI, with reward-challenge only episodes (which are not fillers, seeing as they offer just as much development, competition and plot as the eliminations) and Aftermath specials taking it to what I've heard being 29. The only reason it's 'shorter' is because it's still in progress.

    2. TDI actually had a fairly predictable plot. Many of the episodes of both TDI (and TDA) foreshadow who will be voted off, or at least who will be in the bottom two, by the content of the episode. Think: Noah, Katie, Beth, Courtney, Harold, Eva (second time), Trent, Lindsay, Izzy (second time), Geoff, and Heather. And those are just the obvious ones.

    3. How can they be more or less annoying? They're the same characters! And gee, sorry Trent got some character development.

    4. Don't count your villans before they're through, Justin's got quite a bit going in his favor right now, and Courtney's back to antagonize everyone.



    1. Fine
    2. Every single elimination this season besides DJ was obvious.
    3. Difference between good and bad character development. Some characters I already thought were annoying because I hated them to start with, others were made that way. They went in the wrong direction imo.
    4. Doesn't matter how much time Justin has left, point is, he's done jack, and it's already extremely close to the merge. And if my prediction is right (which I'm almost positive it is) he'll get 1 person out (*coughLINDSAYcough*) and that's it, and Courtney isn't a villain, even though she'll probably do more in that department than Justin.


    Again with the Justin thing, you're being impatient. The only thing Heather did before the merge was boss around Lindsay and Beth, and annoy her team. After the merge, she kissed Trent, turned completely on Lindsay, and got her head shaved. He's got plenty of damn time.


    Sorry if I think a villain has to actually do something villainous? Yea, Heather didn't do much either, but she did get Justin out in TDI, yea, not much, but at least she did something.


    Justin got Gwen and Trent out.
    You must be registered and logged in to post a message.
  • Avatar of Animayshin

    Animayshin

    [25]Aug 25, 2009
    • member since: 02/16/09
    • level: 5
    • rank: Caveman Lawyer
    • posts: 200
    shishkabob999 wrote:
    KingofKlubs13 wrote:
    shishkabob999 wrote:
    KingofKlubs13 wrote:
    shishkabob999 wrote:

    KingofKlubs13 wrote:
    Let's see... TDI was longer, characters weren't annoying (I compare them to Trent in this season), there was an actual villain, no breaks, someone was voted out every (or almost every) episode, not predictable (sure, at times it was, but not overall) TDA is shorter, characters are more annoying, there is no actual villain, too many breaks, too many filler challenges, extremely predictable. So yea, TDI is WAY better than TDA.
    1. TDA is projected to be as long as TDI, with reward-challenge only episodes (which are not fillers, seeing as they offer just as much development, competition and plot as the eliminations) and Aftermath specials taking it to what I've heard being 29. The only reason it's 'shorter' is because it's still in progress.

    2. TDI actually had a fairly predictable plot. Many of the episodes of both TDI (and TDA) foreshadow who will be voted off, or at least who will be in the bottom two, by the content of the episode. Think: Noah, Katie, Beth, Courtney, Harold, Eva (second time), Trent, Lindsay, Izzy (second time), Geoff, and Heather. And those are just the obvious ones.

    3. How can they be more or less annoying? They're the same characters! And gee, sorry Trent got some character development.

    4. Don't count your villans before they're through, Justin's got quite a bit going in his favor right now, and Courtney's back to antagonize everyone.



    1. Fine
    2. Every single elimination this season besides DJ was obvious.
    3. Difference between good and bad character development. Some characters I already thought were annoying because I hated them to start with, others were made that way. They went in the wrong direction imo.
    4. Doesn't matter how much time Justin has left, point is, he's done jack, and it's already extremely close to the merge. And if my prediction is right (which I'm almost positive it is) he'll get 1 person out (*coughLINDSAYcough*) and that's it, and Courtney isn't a villain, even though she'll probably do more in that department than Justin.


    Again with the Justin thing, you're being impatient. The only thing Heather did before the merge was boss around Lindsay and Beth, and annoy her team. After the merge, she kissed Trent, turned completely on Lindsay, and got her head shaved. He's got plenty of damn time.


    Sorry if I think a villain has to actually do something villainous? Yea, Heather didn't do much either, but she did get Justin out in TDI, yea, not much, but at least she did something.


    Justin got Gwen and Trent out.


    Gwen got herself and Trent out. And it's not like Trent deserved to be in the game. He was purposely throwing challenges (Idiot...)

    Not to mention Heather is rude, arrogant, and got Beth out too. Justin is a pretty bad person, but at least he isn't as mean and has friends. Not to mention Heather wants the money to become a celebrity, while Justin wants to donate it to charity. A very crappy charity, but a charity indeed.
    You must be registered and logged in to post a message.
  • Avatar of alagaesian

    alagaesian

    [26]Aug 26, 2009
    • member since: 12/17/07
    • level: 12
    • rank: Evil Bert
    • posts: 1,098
    Justin, in my opinion, is a kind of sleeper-villain. We can see his antagonistic nature through dramatic irony, but the characters in the show don't see his bad side yet. When it gets down to the final five-four-ish, then he'll turn things up a notch and really do some evil.

    The planners of TDA have tried to keep the drama at a concentrated level throughout the entire show. Gwen and Trent, the third and fourth eliminations, had a lot of plotline going for them before they were kicked off. Look at who was eliminated third and fourth last season: Noah and Justin. They had absolutely no continuous plot. Even the ones eliminated in the fifth and seventh episodes, Justin and Tyler, had barely any plot to them.

    The characters who are getting voted off soon have to fit in their dramatic plotlines in before they leave. This leaves less screen time for those who will stay on and have plot a few episodes later. Look at Lindsay. What did she do during the first eight episodes? Except for getting hypnotized by Justin, nothing. Now look at all the plotlines that have run their course in that time - E-Scope, Gwen, Trent, and a few bits of Duncan.

    The reason why Justin can't show his deadly-villainous side is because there is too much plot that needs to be dealt with. Lindsay's being bossy, Courtney's being bossy, Owen's being Owen, and the Gaffer net of hate and conflict is raging as strong as ever. There's too much going on for Justin to go on an evil rampage.

    But, also, since his antagonistic role is clear, and he hasn't been majorly developed plot-wise, this is also a signal that he will stay on the show for a while until everything settles down. What point would they have of keeping an antagonist like him around, unless they were going to use him? When it gets down to the final five-four-ish, a good portion of the plotlines would have run their course, giving him the screen time and motive to start using his powers.
    You must be registered and logged in to post a message.
  • Avatar of shishkabob999

    shishkabob999

    [27]Aug 26, 2009
    • member since: 05/23/06
    • level: 9
    • rank: Door Number 2
    • posts: 2,147
    Animayshin wrote:

    Gwen got herself and Trent out. And it's not like Trent deserved to be in the game. He was purposely throwing challenges (Idiot...)

    Not to mention Heather is rude, arrogant, and got Beth out too. Justin is a pretty bad person, but at least he isn't as mean and has friends. Not to mention Heather wants the money to become a celebrity, while Justin wants to donate it to charity. A very crappy charity, but a charity indeed.


    Justin was the direct reason for getting Trent out of the game once he confronted Gwen about it in front of the Grips. And Gwen got herself out because he said "you owe us". Seems simple to me. The only reason Justin has friends is because he's deceiving them. It's extremely obvious he likes hanging around with Beth as much as he likes hanging around with Izzy. Justin isn't mean? You mean like the time that he offered Lindsay and Beth jump out of the plane first so he'd have a soft place to land?
    You must be registered and logged in to post a message.
  • Avatar of somewierdkid

    somewierdkid

    [28]Aug 26, 2009
    • member since: 07/09/09
    • level: 5
    • rank: Caveman Lawyer
    • posts: 241
    that gives me a question: was "Duncan vs. Harold" better in TDI or TDA?
    You must be registered and logged in to post a message.
  • Avatar of alagaesian

    alagaesian

    [29]Aug 26, 2009
    • member since: 12/17/07
    • level: 12
    • rank: Evil Bert
    • posts: 1,098
    I personally think the Duncan-Harold conflict is better in Action, but that's probably because I'm very biased toward TDA.

    In TDI, the entire conflict was just a string of pranks, then cheating to get Courtney off.

    In TDA, there are many more facets to it. Duncan's still pranking Harold, but now LeShawna and Courtney are involved. Also, Duncan has a good reason, if you could call it that, for picking on Harold. With Full Metal Drama aired, there is a possibility that the two could become friends eventually. How that would work, I'm not sure...but it's a possibility.
    You must be registered and logged in to post a message.
  • Avatar of alagaesian

    alagaesian

    [30]Aug 26, 2009
    • member since: 12/17/07
    • level: 12
    • rank: Evil Bert
    • posts: 1,098
    I personally think the Duncan-Harold conflict is better in Action, but that's probably because I'm very biased toward TDA.

    In TDI, the entire conflict was just a string of pranks, then cheating to get Courtney off.

    In TDA, there are many more facets to it. Duncan's still pranking Harold, but now LeShawna and Courtney are involved. Also, Duncan has a good reason, if you could call it that, for picking on Harold. With Full Metal Drama aired, there is a possibility that the two could become friends eventually. How that would work, I'm not sure...but it's a possibility.
    You must be registered and logged in to post a message.
  • Avatar of Diddy_2000

    Diddy_2000

    [31]Aug 26, 2009
    • member since: 04/02/06
    • level: 8
    • rank: Super-Friend
    • posts: 357
    alagaesian wrote:
    I personally think the Duncan-Harold conflict is better in Action, but that's probably because I'm very biased toward TDA.

    In TDI, the entire conflict was just a string of pranks, then cheating to get Courtney off.

    In TDA, there are many more facets to it. Duncan's still pranking Harold, but now LeShawna and Courtney are involved. Also, Duncan has a good reason, if you could call it that, for picking on Harold. With Full Metal Drama aired, there is a possibility that the two could become friends eventually. How that would work, I'm not sure...but it's a possibility.


    Harold helps Duncan get back together with Courtney?
    You must be registered and logged in to post a message.
  • Avatar of Animayshin

    Animayshin

    [32]Aug 30, 2009
    • member since: 02/16/09
    • level: 5
    • rank: Caveman Lawyer
    • posts: 200
    shishkabob999 wrote:
    Animayshin wrote:

    Gwen got herself and Trent out. And it's not like Trent deserved to be in the game. He was purposely throwing challenges (Idiot...)

    Not to mention Heather is rude, arrogant, and got Beth out too. Justin is a pretty bad person, but at least he isn't as mean and has friends. Not to mention Heather wants the money to become a celebrity, while Justin wants to donate it to charity. A very crappy charity, but a charity indeed.


    Justin was the direct reason for getting Trent out of the game once he confronted Gwen about it in front of the Grips. And Gwen got herself out because he said "you owe us". Seems simple to me. The only reason Justin has friends is because he's deceiving them. It's extremely obvious he likes hanging around with Beth as much as he likes hanging around with Izzy. Justin isn't mean? You mean like the time that he offered Lindsay and Beth jump out of the plane first so he'd have a soft place to land?


    No, Trent threw the challenges which is why they voted him off. Gwen told the Grips to do that too. And Gwen didn't have to vote herself off in order to satisfy the grips (losing the challenge seemed fair enough)

    ANd I don't think that Justin wanted to offend them... he was just concerned over his body. ANd I don't think Justin's relationship with the characters is pure deception (Except for Beth and Lindsay)
    You must be registered and logged in to post a message.
  • Avatar of cakeybagelsoup

    cakeybagelsoup

    [33]Sep 2, 2009
    • member since: 11/16/08
    • level: 4
    • rank: Thighmaster
    • posts: 112

    Tdi

    Tda isn't great. It's just ok.

    You must be registered and logged in to post a message.
  • Avatar of Skyancez

    Skyancez

    [34]Sep 2, 2009
    • member since: 09/04/07
    • level: 14
    • rank: Autobot
    • posts: 778

    After watching TDI AND TDI more closely you can see that TDA is a better show (in my opinion anyway, don't slate me!).

    In TDA, the writers gave fringe-characters more air time and character developpement. Justin went from a distraction to a manipulating fellow that adds the 'drama' and the 'unpredictability' on the show. They needed a new villain for Action, and with Heather already being found out they needed someone that isn't widely known to the other TDI characters and even us viewers. Who is better than Justin, who was open to ANY character plans because of his very little contribution in Island?

    On that note, they should have brought back more fringe-characters, such as Ezekiel, Tyler and Noah and give them 'extra spice'. As much as I love them, Geoff and Bridgette are now past it, as is DJ, Gwen, Owen and Heather. LeShawna and Izzy could also be considered in this bracket.

    Another change is Lindsay, who went from being manipulated to a new 'bossy'-stand-up-for-herself girl. That's fine, as now Lindsay could offer some new 'commanding' character to the show, and maybe, if god forbids, brings her team to a win.

    The relationship between Duncan and Courtney, which I thought was past it, as actually surprised me so far. So many elements added to spice up the duo. It's great! Hopefully some delicious plot twists will happen in the near future.

    As for the breaks, yes it's annoying but you need to learn patience. You might love this show to death but life has so much offer and you are missing out. I went a bit AOL and I will not deny that I am surprised that no new episodes were aired during my departure. They must have a good reason to do so and their decision will remain the same.

    Island has humor but so does Action. Except, they are more 'inside-jokes' that needs you to comprehend a certain subject/joke for you to laugh. Island was more about the kiddy, simple jokes that you hear/see most of the time.

    All in all, Action has more depth than Island. The latter proved to be too short for 24 characters so they decided to cut some loose but keep the same number of episodes, thus adding more time and creativity for the characters in Action. This is why I would have preferred characters such as Ezekiel, Tyler, Noah, Katie, Sadie and Eva over the likes of Gwen, Geoff, Bridgette, Owen, Heather and DJ.

    You must be registered and logged in to post a message.
  • Avatar of Joemcmark

    Joemcmark

    [35]Sep 3, 2009
    • member since: 10/09/08
    • level: 21
    • rank: Snagglepuss
    • posts: 748
    TDI by far. They had less annoying campers. Less than almost half the episodes were fillers. And they had no annoying aftermaths.
    You must be registered and logged in to post a message.
  • Avatar of suiteferb

    suiteferb

    [36]Sep 4, 2009
    • member since: 06/13/08
    • level: 14
    • rank: Autobot
    • posts: 1,090
    I just watched the first 8 episodes of TDA (cause it hasn't aired here yet) and besides it hasn't got many campers, the episodes look interesting.

    EPISODES:
    -TDI: A random challenge can work, from a wake-a-thon to an eating contest, no problem if it isn't very related to summer camps.
    -TDA: Every episode has to be inspired in a movie of any genre, and challenges are more creative because of this.

    CHARACTERS:
    -TDI: 22 different characters were awesome, but some had more opportunites than others (Who wins? Owen, Gwen, Lindsay, Leshawna, Courtney had a chance, unlike Ezekiel, Eva, Noah, Cody, Tyler or Noah). And the ones with no chance didn't have many plots (except for Cody, who had a big appearence in Up the Creek).
    -TDA: Besides Heather is bald and uglier, and Izzy unsoportable with her E-Scope obsession, they haven't changed too much. TEAMS:
    -TDI: Gophers and Bass, they were balanced about eliminations and stuff.
    -TDA: Trent is so stupid he picked the worst castmates to make the Grips always lose.

    In reduction, I think they both are good. If TDA had more campers, it would be better. However, it's a little better at the moment, but I won't have a concret idea until it ends.
    You must be registered and logged in to post a message.
Shows | Movies | Web | People | News | Videos | Community
Listings | Photos | Forums | Closed Captioning | Rating Guidelines
CBS Entertainment About CBS Interactive | About TV.com | Contact Us | Jobs | Advertise
© 2016 CBS Interactive Inc. All Rights Reserved. TV Guide Digital Network | Privacy Policy | Ad Choice | Terms of Use