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    kitendoc

    [21]Oct 6, 2008
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    TTAM-MATT wrote:
    Wow that went off topic.... well a stratigy mistake was voting Courtney over Tyler, Tyler may suck at sports but Courtney is worse! Like in the cliff jump at least Tyler jumped! Courtney didn't and costed them the game! And she costed them the game again in phobia factor! Tyler just costed them a point! Meaning Tyler is more useful then Courtney!
    Maybe that's the reason why Cortney got kicked off before Harold. I mean, we all were kind of hoping for Courtney to be voted off.
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    TTAM-MATT

    [22]Oct 6, 2008
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    Also, just how was Tyler not doing his challenge? He was in the pin like Chris said his challenge was! So shouldn't that have counted?
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    ChowderRules

    [23]Oct 6, 2008
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    I didnt get that either Ttam Matt. Probably because he was in fatal position and he wasnt allowed to.
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    TTAM-MATT

    [24]Oct 6, 2008
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    You know something that is weird about Heather? I know that she is like a main camper in the show so she will make it far but isn't it weird how no one even TRIED to get her voted off? Well im sorry if that is off topic so I will put something to make it on topic, a stratigy mistake was voting off Noah instead of Lindsay because everytime Lindsay was in a game she was instantly hit by a ball putting them at a number disadvantage.
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    kitendoc

    [25]Oct 6, 2008
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    TTAM-MATT wrote:
    You know something that is weird about Heather? I know that she is like a main camper in the show so she will make it far but isn't it weird how no one even TRIED to get her voted off? Well im sorry if that is off topic so I will put something to make it on topic, a stratigy mistake was voting off Noah instead of Lindsay because everytime Lindsay was in a game she was instantly hit by a ball putting them at a number disadvantage.
    Well, Noah was considered lazy and a smart aleck because he didn't contribute to the team effort. And the funny thing about Heather is that she sort of reminds me of Light Yagami from Death Note, which is kind of creepy because Light only uses advanced logic while Heather manipulates others and just does her plan in a mean manner (Ex. Breaking up Gwen and Trent and tricking the campers into voting him off thanks to LeShawna's rumor. I mean, Gwen should have known from the start about how Trent would never leave her side. But thanks to Heather's manipulative nature, that chance is ruined.). Another strategy mistake that I should bring up is The Sucky Outdoors challenge. If Katie and Sadie didn't separate from the group, they could have let their team won and had the Screaming Gophers vote someone else.
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    TTAM-MATT

    [26]Oct 6, 2008
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    You like Death Note to! Awesome! Anyway another differance between Heather and Light is while Light is an evil Bast*rd he has good intentions though he became courrupt well another mistake is Leshawna trusting Izzy on a bike in order to win a challenge only to get scared out of her life!
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    Brodoin15

    [27]Oct 6, 2008
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    Sorry if someone has already said this, but a huge mistake for them is not taking Heather out when they've had plenty of chances. They could've in the paintball challenge, but they voted out Cody due to his injury, they could've voted Heather out insted of Beth, but due to the tiki they voted her out, which they didn't have to do, there's no such thing as bad luck from a tiki doll.

    Heather seems to dodge the bullet several times.

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    TTAM-MATT

    [28]Oct 6, 2008
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    Yea sometimes its not because she got people to vote with her but pure luck!
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    alagaesian

    [29]Oct 7, 2008
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    I think I've come up with a reason why Heather kept on. It's because she would NEVER win if she made it to the final two. Gwen mentioned that 'only a hundred thousand dollars could make me put up with her', so they would keep her on if it meant winning the game. After the merge, they started voting off people that would be a major threat. Sorry to say, but the only thing Heather had after That's Off the Chain was manipulation, but that wouldn't really work anymore because no one would trust her.
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    TraverseTown

    [30]Oct 8, 2008
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    Heather doesn't even try to keep Lindsay safe, and Lindsay was the only person who wouldn't vote her off.
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    4EverGreen

    [31]Oct 8, 2008
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    Heather made a REALLY big mistake (not that I care!) but she made a really big mistake in telling Lindsey that she wouldn't even miss her! That is one time Heather REALLY shot herself in the foot, metaphorically speaking! She could've earned a few brownie points with the campers if she had lied to Lindsey and said that she was going to miss having her around. But Heather didn't lie, opened her BIG, fat mouth to tell the truth, and lost her last chance to have ANY of the campers trust her! Enough said!
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    alagaesian

    [32]Oct 8, 2008
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    I suddenly realized why Duncan teamed up with Heather. The guy's alliance! There's still three of the guys left, and with Heather, they have four people and the voting power. At this point, there are still more girls than guys, and LeShawna, Gwen, Izzy, and Heather might team up to get rid of them. Geoff's happy attitude is starting to crease some of the girls, Owen is...well, Owen, and Duncan is some major competition. All of them have a reason for the girls to team up and kick them off, and the girls might agree to team up this time around.

    Out of the four girls left, Heather would have been the easiest to persuade to turn traitor. She doesn't like the other girls, and would jump at any chance to get rid of them. I guess she's forgotten about the guy's alliance, and doesn't realize that she's the next to go after the rest of the girls get picked off. If she figures out that she's being played with and cuts the alliance, Duncan, Owen, and Geoff would be enough people to vote her off.

    Actually, now that I've thought it all out, maybe it wasn't a strategy mistake for Duncan to 'team up' with Heather. It just seemed like such a stupid idea at first.
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    sebetai

    [33]Oct 8, 2008
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    i think ezekial getting voted off was a mistake. courtney was weak. she didn't jump where as ezekial did. he just made one sexiest comment that must have made courtney thank god cause that was a miracle. we didn't get to see what ezekial could do. we didn't get to see harold until the dodgeball and talent show so i wonder what ezekial could have done.

    another mistake was voting off justin. how did heather do that? owen was making gay comments about him and was bribed with cake? izzy's insanity was enough to make her vote off justin? if she only got them and her then wouldn't that have been a tie?

    mistake 3: voting katie off. sadie was overweight and about equal to courtney in usefullness. i noticed that 3 characters with dark skin were voted off in succesion. racist maybe?

    mistake 4: voting cody off. they had the chance to get rid of heather and wasted it. cody was mauled by a bear and useless but he would be the next to go. and if by some chance the campers decide to keep him further, easy opponent for the finals.

    mistake 5: voting harold off. harold only lost the challenge for the bass because heather shirt was ripped off. he was dominating the game. plus he was more usefull than any other of the bass. but i the rest of team were in a clique so harold was gone.

    i think the last current mistake was voting bridgette off. they should have targeted gwen. how many challenges has gwen won? the awake athon, boot camp, and was a pretty powerful character. bridgette was weak. she burned the bass tent during the camping episode, broke courtney's violen and nearly hurt her, vomited on everyone,a nd some other stuff. she never showed any real talent in any of the episodes.

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    Brodoin15

    [34]Oct 9, 2008
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    sebetai wrote:

    i think ezekial getting voted off was a mistake. courtney was weak. she didn't jump where as ezekial did. he just made one sexiest comment that must have made courtney thank god cause that was a miracle. we didn't get to see what ezekial could do. we didn't get to see harold until the dodgeball and talent show so i wonder what ezekial could have done.

    another mistake was voting off justin. how did heather do that? owen was making gay comments about him and was bribed with cake? izzy's insanity was enough to make her vote off justin? if she only got them and her then wouldn't that have been a tie?

    mistake 3: voting katie off. sadie was overweight and about equal to courtney in usefullness. i noticed that 3 characters with dark skin were voted off in succesion. racist maybe?

    mistake 4: voting cody off. they had the chance to get rid of heather and wasted it. cody was mauled by a bear and useless but he would be the next to go. and if by some chance the campers decide to keep him further, easy opponent for the finals.

    mistake 5: voting harold off. harold only lost the challenge for the bass because heather shirt was ripped off. he was dominating the game. plus he was more usefull than any other of the bass. but i the rest of team were in a clique so harold was gone.

    i think the last current mistake was voting bridgette off. they should have targeted gwen. how many challenges has gwen won? the awake athon, boot camp, and was a pretty powerful character. bridgette was weak. she burned the bass tent during the camping episode, broke courtney's violen and nearly hurt her, vomited on everyone,a nd some other stuff. she never showed any real talent in any of the episodes.

    I agree with the mistake of voting Harold off. Yes, he cheated Courtney, but it was somewhat also Duncan's fault for picking on him so much and not expecting some sort of revenge. Plus I hear alot of people say Harold was weak, when he wasn't, he's one of the people to win a challenge on his own, and two at that. He would've done his fear challenge if he didn't knock himself out, and he was about to win another challenge, untill Heather's top was torn off, that is. I think that shows that Harold was not a weak guy. Not the strongest, but far from the weakest.

    And as much as I like both Gwen and Bridgette, I agree about that too. (I would still like to see Gwen win it in America though)

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    alagaesian

    [35]Oct 9, 2008
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    There were two reasons why Bridgette was targeted. One, she smelled really bad. Two, Geoff almost didn't join the alliance because of her. At that point in the game, three people wouldn't be enough to sway the vote. They needed Geoff, and if they waited a few episodes, it would have been to late to get his loyalty. When the group gets smaller, each individual vote has more value to it. If it came down to the final seven, with Heather, Izzy, and Bridgette left, Bridgette would be the next logical choice to vote off (threat-wise) and Geoff would betray them, as he did in Hide and Be Sneaky, and one of the guys would be gone. There goes the alliance; only two people left in it.
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