| NejiShikamaru wrote: |
| Noah also was very upset when Izzy brought up the whole incident too. |
That isnt proof
U wouldnt want the world to think ur gay
TELETOON
| NejiShikamaru wrote: |
| Noah also was very upset when Izzy brought up the whole incident too. |
| CrystalCoconut wrote: | ||
That isnt proof U wouldnt want the world to think ur gay |
I'd like to see a couple thing change.
1) Not having Izzy return so much. She has come back three times now (counting the special). I figure it's a running gag to have her return all the time, but I think it's unfair to the other characters that have very little devlopment.
2) To have both Trent and Gwen stay longer in TDA and no break up. I'm not a couples shipper like some people are, but I do think it was a dumb move to have Trent and Gwen break up, and so early on TDA, after putting so much time into getting the two to like each other in TDI. And I don't like how both were voted out so early in the game.
| 4EverGreen wrote: |
| The Trent/Gwen relationship breaking up might be a bad thing for "TDI/TDA" lovers, but you have to look at it from a point of interest. If Gwen and Trent just stayed together, no crazyness, no Duncan jealousy, and everything was peachy keen, that would be capital B BORING!!!! |
You're right. The relationship between couples requires drama to make the series stay alive. Personally, I'm more than okay with Gwen leaving early this season because she has had way too much time on screen. Also, a little birdie also told me about Leshawna going early, too; she's another character that I find too overrated. I mean, I hate Heather-admittedly, I forgot how mean she really was first season- but seriously, Leshawna 'stands up for herself' way too much. The fact that her, Gwen and Heather have won every single challenge last season has made me sick of them. Lindsay nor Beth nor any of the guys have won challenges. Gwen had a challenge which was practically Duncan's win, which I found to be not only outrageous, but appauling, to say the least. The fact that Owen won last season puts me at so much relief because Gwen kept hogging all of the challenges and some that haven't even been hers, also Leshawna. Sometimes, her and Heather barely compete in any of the challenges and they end up winning anyway. The writers to not only this show, but to the others have a lot to learn about character development and to other characters as well. Not just the same ones.
| 4EverGreen wrote: |
| Exactly! |
| imverybasic wrote: | ||
You're right. The relationship between couples requires drama to make the series stay alive. Personally, I'm more than okay with Gwen leaving early this season because she has had way too much time on screen. Also, a little birdie also told me about Leshawna going early, too; she's another character that I find too overrated. I mean, I hate Heather-admittedly, I forgot how mean she really was first season- but seriously, Leshawna 'stands up for herself' way too much. The fact that her, Gwen and Heather have won every single challenge last season has made me sick of them. Lindsay nor Beth nor any of the guys have won challenges. Gwen had a challenge which was practically Duncan's win, which I found to be not only outrageous, but appauling, to say the least. The fact that Owen won last season puts me at so much relief because Gwen kept hogging all of the challenges and some that haven't even been hers, also Leshawna. Sometimes, her and Heather barely compete in any of the challenges and they end up winning anyway. The writers to not only this show, but to the others have a lot to learn about character development and to other characters as well. Not just the same ones. |
True, a couple needs drama to stay interesting.
But at the same time, they put so much focus onto Gwen and Trent in TDI, so much time and devlopment into their characters and relationship. I don't like how it was all ended in one of the first TDA episodes.
First, have Justin really step up as the villain, because he isn't doing all that much anymore. It's disappointing, and the drama with him and Beth would be well worth it. The last few episodes, he's gone back to being a minor, mostly-silent character.
Personally, I think that Courtney is crazy for Cocoa Puffs, and never wanted her to come back. Having Cody, Noah... hell, even Ezekiel would've been way more fun, considering all three need the character development (sure, the rest of the non-competitors do too, but I just happen to like those three better) and probably all have some personality. The only reasons that it was Courtney are probably that a) she's a fan favorite and b) she has relationships with others on the show, which unfortunately the other three really don't.
Third, and I know I stand alone on this, I want Izzy to keep coming back. Yes, milk it dry, keep it coming until everyone's sick of her. Because that's what she's good for, and that's what keeps her funny. Have Chris get so frustrated he just gives up with it already.
Finally, I would really like to see more out of Heather. Writers, you have a perfectly good character here! Since she's obviously not going to reform, let her keep trying to do her thing any damn way she can. Mess with Courtney and Duncan, or go back to trying to work Harold (her only chance at an ally at this point, let's be honest). Something, because at this point she's just taking up space.
That said, there are things that the show hinted at that I'd also like them to continue: Harold and Duncan at odds (and again, not about Courtney), Lindsay getting bossier, Geoff becoming more like Chris in the Aftermaths, and letting Harold and LeShawna shine individually a bit more (her fake crying was fantastic, and him of course confronting Duncan in the war challenge).
| shishkabob999 wrote: |
First, have Justin really step up as the villain, because he isn't doing all that much anymore. It's disappointing, and the drama with him and Beth would be well worth it. The last few episodes, he's gone back to being a minor, mostly-silent character. Personally, I think that Courtney is crazy for Cocoa Puffs, and never wanted her to come back. Having Cody, Noah... hell, even Ezekiel would've been way more fun, considering all three need the character development (sure, the rest of the non-competitors do too, but I just happen to like those three better) and probably all have some personality. The only reasons that it was Courtney are probably that a) she's a fan favorite and b) she has relationships with others on the show, which unfortunately the other three really don't. Third, and I know I stand alone on this, I want Izzy to keep coming back. Yes, milk it dry, keep it coming until everyone's sick of her. Because that's what she's good for, and that's what keeps her funny. Have Chris get so frustrated he just gives up with it already. Finally, I would really like to see more out of Heather. Writers, you have a perfectly good character here! Since she's obviously not going to reform, let her keep trying to do her thing any damn way she can. Mess with Courtney and Duncan, or go back to trying to work Harold (her only chance at an ally at this point, let's be honest). Something, because at this point she's just taking up space. That said, there are things that the show hinted at that I'd also like them to continue: Harold and Duncan at odds (and again, not about Courtney), Lindsay getting bossier, Geoff becoming more like Chris in the Aftermaths, and letting Harold and LeShawna shine individually a bit more (her fake crying was fantastic, and him of course confronting Duncan in the war challenge). |
| alagaesian wrote: |
| I see Justin as a villain that is going to just sit there until the final 5, then start to rev things up. He's a snake that's going to hypnotize everyone before biting their heads off. His time to shine will be in the last few episodes, when the last 1-3 people will have to work together to take him down. I, personally, can't see any gain in bringing Noah, Cody, or Zeke into TDA. The relationships are so complex at this point, how the heck are they going to fit in? Take careful notice that the final eight, as of Ocean's Eight or Nine, has had a wide amount of development. All of this development was performed in the first 13 episodes...now, it's going to take another 13+ episodes to tie up all the plotlines and conflicts that have appeared through it. They don't have time to develop a single character and tie him into the whole mess. Not to mention that it would be horribly impractical and imbalanced, extremely heavy development on a single character for a few episodes. And, I believe, Heather has had a good amount of development during TDA on the topic of relationships (not romantic ones, just in general). Duncan thinks she's a spoiled prat, LeShawna is taking immoral amounts of revenge on her, and she has interesting involvement with Harold. She even has a few ties to the Grips, seeing as Lindsay and Beth now hate her and can fully operate on their own, leaving Heather nearly helpless. Now, granted, she could probably do a little bit more, but it isn't as if she is being completely ignored. |
That's exactly why I said that Courtney was back over those three guys: she does has relationships with others on the show, making her the only choice. My point WAS that it'd be hard to bring them back (Ezekiel and Noah especially, and probably Cody too once Gwen left) with very few ties to the other contestants, and that the reasons FOR bringing them back were mostly personal. But in general, some characters could use a bit more personal development, not just with the players who aren't participating. For the Heather thing, most of her interactions are based off of her game last season, while things like Justin being a villan at all, Geoff being a Chris-wannabe, and LeShawna being hated by her team are all the things that TDA has done to those characters.
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