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Courtney was AWFUl in challenges? Wrong

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    BrainMan820

    [61]Mar 26, 2009
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    I raise a few concerns about DJ doing so well.

    DJ was reponsible for his team's failure in "Who Can You Trust?" You listed Courtney, Duncan, and Geoff as a tie, but all three of them did better, as he failed two challenges. Geoff won one challenge and lost one, Courtney lost one (although the failure was admittedly Sadie's more then it was hers) and Duncan failed one. All of them do better then DJ, as he willingly took off the blindfold himself

    DJ also failed his team in "Paintball Deer Hunt" as he got himself trapped on the cliffside. Owen merely ran out of shots, which is something DJ could not have anticipated. Compared to Duncan and Courtney, both of them did a superior job (Sadie would not, considering she was only saved by Heather's loud shouting)

    It is not possible to say that DJ's dish was better then any of the other campers besides his partner Bridgette, as the individual score for the dish was not mentioned at all. Chef gave the first two courses a combined score of 15, but which dish was superior is undeterminable. Geoff was also responsible for the execution of the entire menu, which includes all of the dishes.

    DJ's failure in "Not Quite Famous" was due to his own klutziness. While one can argue that Duncan willingly choosing not to participate could constitute a tie, and that Geoff accidentally destroying his own board would force a tie, Courtney's withdraw happened as a result of Bridgette. Courtney could technically be ruled as superior since she did not mess up her own act. Also, Bridgette received the same score as DJ in the contest, not a lower one. Although Bridgette could still be considered worse since she caused the accident that took Courtney from the competition.

    The only person we see DJ outlasting in "The Big Sleep" was Bridgette. The score shows that DJ fell asleep second (10 bass remained, Bridgette fell to 9, and when DJ sleeps, the score goes to 8.) He does not outlast Geoff.

    In "Dodge Brawl" Courtney was the one responsible for coercing Duncan to get on the field in the first place. Accomplishing this, as well as participating in one round of the blitz manuever, is superior to DJ merely winning two. Further, Geoff and DJ both participated in two rounds of the blitzing manuever. Since Geoff put Harold on the field, that would be a victory for him. However, DJ winning two rounds for the Bass would be superior to Harold winning one. Final ball or no, it was only one round to two.

    Bridgette burning down the tent in "The Sucky Outdoors" did not adversely affect the challenge. Stating DJ was superior is inaccurate.

    Counting these, Courtney (5-2) and Geoff (7-4) would have done better then DJ. Bridgette (5-4) would still be worse, while Harold's score has no net change.

    Edited on 03/26/2009 8:17pm
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    CrystalCoconut

    [62]Mar 27, 2009
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    BrainMan820 wrote:

    I raise a few concerns about DJ doing so well.

    DJ was reponsible for his team's failure in "Who Can You Trust?" You listed Courtney, Duncan, and Geoff as a tie, but all three of them did better, as he failed two challenges. Geoff won one challenge and lost one, Courtney lost one (although the failure was admittedly Sadie's more then it was hers) and Duncan failed one. All of them do better then DJ, as he willingly took off the blindfold himself

    DJ also failed his team in "Paintball Deer Hunt" as he got himself trapped on the cliffside. Owen merely ran out of shots, which is something DJ could not have anticipated. Compared to Duncan and Courtney, both of them did a superior job (Sadie would not, considering she was only saved by Heather's loud shouting)

    It is not possible to say that DJ's dish was better then any of the other campers besides his partner Bridgette, as the individual score for the dish was not mentioned at all. Chef gave the first two courses a combined score of 15, but which dish was superior is undeterminable. Geoff was also responsible for the execution of the entire menu, which includes all of the dishes.

    DJ's failure in "Not Quite Famous" was due to his own klutziness. While one can argue that Duncan willingly choosing not to participate could constitute a tie, and that Geoff accidentally destroying his own board would force a tie, Courtney's withdraw happened as a result of Bridgette. Courtney could technically be ruled as superior since she did not mess up her own act. Also, Bridgette received the same score as DJ in the contest, not a lower one. Although Bridgette could still be considered worse since she caused the accident that took Courtney from the competition.

    The only person we see DJ outlasting in "The Big Sleep" was Bridgette. The score shows that DJ fell asleep second (10 bass remained, Bridgette fell to 9, and when DJ sleeps, the score goes to 8.) He does not outlast Geoff.

    In "Dodge Brawl" Courtney was the one responsible for coercing Duncan to get on the field in the first place. Accomplishing this, as well as participating in one round of the blitz manuever, is superior to DJ merely winning two. Further, Geoff and DJ both participated in two rounds of the blitzing manuever. Since Geoff put Harold on the field, that would be a victory for him. However, DJ winning two rounds for the Bass would be superior to Harold winning one. Final ball or no, it was only one round to two.

    Bridgette burning down the tent in "The Sucky Outdoors" did not adversely affect the challenge. Stating DJ was superior is inaccurate.

    Counting these, Courtney (5-2) and Geoff (7-4) would have done better then DJ. Bridgette (5-4) would still be worse, while Harold's score has no net change.



    I 100% agree.
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    MileyPhobic

    [63]Apr 5, 2009
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    I agree that Courtney was a valuable team member. And she would have made it to the Top 5 if Harold hadn't cheated, even if she had started to suck, because Duncan (who is the fiercest competitor and nobody questions) LOVES her!

    But obviously the producers had a reason for kicking her off. And who really wants to see Courtney and Duncan wind up like Bridgette and Geoff (sickening!) or Gwen and Trent (broken up)?

    I am so excited for Episode 8 of TDA when Courtney comes back! Opposite Duncan I might add! Now we'll see who would last longer without cheating (I hope!)

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    stalemate666

    [64]Apr 5, 2009
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    MileyPhobic wrote:

    I agree that Courtney was a valuable team member. And she would have made it to the Top 5 if Harold hadn't cheated, even if she had started to suck, because Duncan (who is the fiercest competitor and nobody questions) LOVES her!

    But obviously the producers had a reason for kicking her off. And who really wants to see Courtney and Duncan wind up like Bridgette and Geoff (sickening!) or Gwen and Trent (broken up)?

    I am so excited for Episode 8 of TDA when Courtney comes back! Opposite Duncan I might add! Now we'll see who would last longer without cheating (I hope!)


    I don't see how Duncan and Courtney can wind up as either Gwen and Trent or Bridgette and Geoff there is no way either of them would throw a challenge against the other they are way to competitive, and they would never put making out (or anything more) over winning they'd be basically a powerhouse though if they made it to the final 5 lol maybe even back stab, but they wouldn't take it personally or break up I mean Courtney already ditched Duncan and it didn't seem to make a dif
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    CrystalCoconut

    [65]Apr 5, 2009
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    MileyPhobic wrote:

    I agree that Courtney was a valuable team member. And she would have made it to the Top 5 if Harold hadn't cheated, even if she had started to suck, because Duncan (who is the fiercest competitor and nobody questions) LOVES her!

    But obviously the producers had a reason for kicking her off. And who really wants to see Courtney and Duncan wind up like Bridgette and Geoff (sickening!) or Gwen and Trent (broken up)?

    I am so excited for Episode 8 of TDA when Courtney comes back! Opposite Duncan I might add! Now we'll see who would last longer without cheating (I hope!)



    IT IS NOT EPISODE 8. It is episode 10 and that is if there are no fillers.
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    person373

    [66]Apr 6, 2009
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    tigerty101 wrote:

    You do have good points in there, and I do agree that Courtney wasn't horrible in challenges. Trying not to be to picky, so the only thing I'd change is the talent show (Geoff vs.Courtney). They both didn't end up in the game, but if they had been in the game, I'd say their scores would be around the same. I say Courtney and Geoff should have tied in that one, so I say Geoff did better then Courtney overall. Leaving Duncan as the best Bass, Geoff as the second, and Harold and Courtney tied for the third.



    Totaly agree with what you said, you too Diddy 2000
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    Lionheart08

    [67]Apr 8, 2009
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    BrainMan820 wrote:

    I raise a few concerns about DJ doing so well.

    1) DJ was reponsible for his team's failure in "Who Can You Trust?" You listed Courtney, Duncan, and Geoff as a tie, but all three of them did better, as he failed two challenges. Geoff won one challenge and lost one, Courtney lost one (although the failure was admittedly Sadie's more then it was hers) and Duncan failed one. All of them do better then DJ, as he willingly took off the blindfold himself

    2) DJ also failed his team in "Paintball Deer Hunt" as he got himself trapped on the cliffside. Owen merely ran out of shots, which is something DJ could not have anticipated. Compared to Duncan and Courtney, both of them did a superior job (Sadie would not, considering she was only saved by Heather's loud shouting)

    3) It is not possible to say that DJ's dish was better then any of the other campers besides his partner Bridgette, as the individual score for the dish was not mentioned at all. Chef gave the first two courses a combined score of 15, but which dish was superior is undeterminable. Geoff was also responsible for the execution of the entire menu, which includes all of the dishes.

    4) DJ's failure in "Not Quite Famous" was due to his own klutziness. While one can argue that Duncan willingly choosing not to participate could constitute a tie, and that Geoff accidentally destroying his own board would force a tie, Courtney's withdraw happened as a result of Bridgette. Courtney could technically be ruled as superior since she did not mess up her own act. Also, Bridgette received the same score as DJ in the contest, not a lower one. Although Bridgette could still be considered worse since she caused the accident that took Courtney from the competition.

    5) The only person we see DJ outlasting in "The Big Sleep" was Bridgette. The score shows that DJ fell asleep second (10 bass remained, Bridgette fell to 9, and when DJ sleeps, the score goes to 8.) He does not outlast Geoff.

    6) In "Dodge Brawl" Courtney was the one responsible for coercing Duncan to get on the field in the first place. Accomplishing this, as well as participating in one round of the blitz manuever, is superior to DJ merely winning two. Further, Geoff and DJ both participated in two rounds of the blitzing manuever. Since Geoff put Harold on the field, that would be a victory for him. However, DJ winning two rounds for the Bass would be superior to Harold winning one. Final ball or no, it was only one round to two.

    7) Bridgette burning down the tent in "The Sucky Outdoors" did not adversely affect the challenge. Stating DJ was superior is inaccurate.

    Counting these, Courtney (5-2) and Geoff (7-4) would have done better then DJ. Bridgette (5-4) would still be worse, while Harold's score has no net change.

    1) Since I notice how you like to give credit when someone causes or inspires someone else to win, I fell just as much blame can be put on both Geoff, who was responsible for Bunny's death, and Duncan, who was the reason DJ took the blind fold off. I mean, seriously, if we're going to give people "victory" for waking up duncan or being the person to let Harold play dodgeball, it ony makes sense to hold Duncan and Geoff responsible for losing too.

    2) Irrelevant; whether or not Owen had him cornered DJ managed to out maneuver Owen to the point where Owen ended up losing all of his paint. You can't count that as a loss.

    3) You make a point but I have to disagree with you giving credit to Geoff in this case. He directed it but DJ and Bridgette were the chefs. They get credit for victory along with Harold and Sadie in this case.

    4) Agreed

    5) Agreed

    6) DJ went several rounds, winning 2 out of the 3 and being one of the final members in the only round he lost. Waking up Duncan or not, DJ put just as much effort, you can't underscore it.

    7)I We're talking about contributions in the challenge remember? Bridgette burned down her team's tent, leaving them stuck in the rain all night. While she didn't cause her team to lost like Sadie and Cadie, it's still a point against her.

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    BrainMan820

    [68]May 25, 2009
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    1.) I'm not assigning victory to Harold for waking Duncan up (as DJ was part of that too), and Geoff placing Harold on the field merely breaks the tie that both men won two games. Besides, as already stated, DJ willingly removed the blindfold to look at Bunny, while the first Bunny getting eaten was an accident. Duncan providing a Bunny did not excuse DJ from taking off the blindfold

    2.) DJ does deserve praise for outmanuevering Owen, but we're comparing him to Courtney and Duncan, who never had such tight spots at all despite being stuck together. Those two do a superior job.

    3.) Why wouldn't we give credit to Geoff? He is the head chef, and it was his idea to make the dishes. Also, you cannot rule DJ superior to Duncan and Courtney, as their score (6) could still be better then DJ's if Harold and Sadie got a perfect 10. Since DJ's individual score is not stated, it cannot be assumed.

    6.) It was Duncan's presence which caused the Bass to win the game, more then anything else. As Duncan was not going to participate irrespective of whether it cost the team, Courtney deserves credit for causing this (she, and no one else, was responsible for this) When you combine this with one round of the strategy, it is superior. I'm not underscoring DJ, as he helped the Bass win. Courtney, though, helped more.

    7.) It could very well be that sleeping out in the rain caused Courtney to wake up so early, granting them the victory. There is no proof that Bridgette hindered her team: The Bass, after all, were the first ones to arrive.

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