Exactly saylavee. These people are just pissed that this is just as much of a Seddie episode.

Topic Bump! since someone posted in alot of the threads people havent posted in in months...this and a few other topics that people do post in ALOT or are becoming popular, (or that i just like and are selfisly about to bump becuase i like the conversation)were pushed back to page 3. So yeah BUMP!! 2 days till awesome development episode.

no this is obviously more centered around Creddie. interpret what Sam says as you may but it means very little.

well it looks to like there was WWAAAAAAAAYYYY more creddie in this episode thatn seddie . come to think of it i really didnt see any seddie in this episode

actually, rewatching the episode right now, and it was actually a little bit touching that sam seemed so concerned over freddy that she actually threw a pizza onto the ground instead of stuffing her face. still lost a lot of impact from the taco thing.

There were "Sam and Freddie were talking" moments but not "Seddie" moments. There was yet another rejection of Freddie by Sam, and Freddie reaffirming his love for Carly, both by his actions in saving her, his words saying he did want to be her girlfriend, and that he couldn't be with Carly if he feels Carly wasn't really 'in love' with him.

Plus after iSpeed Date and iSYL, Carly's feelings might simply be starting to come to the surface, for a while she'll probably go "I guess he was right, I was just in love with what he did" and then soon enough realise that she might be in real love with him, and that all he's done for her is a part, an important part, but not the only reason why she likes him back.

Yes, but they aren't "seddie moments" in reality. A proper shippy moment is one that reinforces or strengthens the argument for that ship.

Just having them talk to each other isn't a "seddie moment" because then that would mean every scene in every episode with every person is a shippy moment.

I don't believe there have been any true 'seddie moments' at all in Season 3, except perhaps an overarching reduction in their level of antagonism between each other. But that just means they are being better friends to each other.

Since Freddie has outright said he wants to be with Carly, it completely rules out any "Freddie likes Sam" ideas from before this episode. He doesn't think about Sam in that way.

The fact that Sam wasn't jealous at all on top of this.

People have called this a "reset status quo" episode, but in reality, it has progressed Creddie by a huge amount:
Carly and Freddie can make out and not feel weird.
Freddie still likes Carly.
Carly would be perfectly happy with Freddie as boyfriend material.
An implied future re discussion of the topic.
Carly didn't reject or refuse her feelings, so they could linger and remain until they go back and admit they are still real.

It also reset Seddie back to a vague feeling that perhaps Sam likes Freddie, with no real evidence to show for it.

Keep grasping at straws sockstar. You just believe what you want to believe and don't know what LOGIC is. Thinking Seddie has no evidence? Seriously?

I hope you know this episode set's Carly and Freddie way back. Know why? Sam knows Carly better than anybody. Sam knows CARLY WILL NEVER LOVE FREDDIE. Freddie listened to SAM. He knew Sam was correct. He recognized he was really just "Foreign Bacon." So if anything this episode severely wounded Carly and Freddie.

*sigh* the was may never end.