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Zuko's Plot **SPOILERS**

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    ZukoFan

    [1]Dec 1, 2006
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    I was just recently having a complete meltdown because of... well, everyone who's seen the finale should know perfectly well what I'm talking about.

    But I have an idea... just a little one... tricky... and very possibly not going to happen, but it helps me believe that he's still going to turn around and kick some serious Azula-butt.


    OKAY! This is what I think:

    Zuko and Iroh were left behind and before Azula crashed in, Iroh said he was going to have a 'talk' with Zuko. Then they were interrupted, Azula made her proposal, and went after Aang.... No one knows whether or not Iroh talked to Zuko. WHAT IF it was Iroh's PLAN to have Zuko go with Azula, knowing that it would keep him safe. They devised it to make it look like Zuko was actually the bad guy and have Iroh get arrested - AKA: They both remain in Ba-Sing-Se.

    NOW. That is NOT all, my fellow fanatics... What if Zuko actually proposed this plan to Iroh and it was his plot for Azula to teach??him to make lightning? Like, knowing somewhere in the back of his mind that his father may actually care for him now that he's betrayed everyone he loves, that he can get passed that, calm himself down, and do the whole seperate his chi's [sp?] and make the lightning.


    Anyways - that was just my thought process. My little shred of hope that he isn't as completely wacked out and demonic as his sister.


    Oh. And did anyone notice how the convo in the cave with Iroh and Azula trying to push things on Zuko was exactly like his dream? Where Azula was trying to make Zuko do bad things while Iroh tried to keep him from it? Yeah... I dunno.


    Discuss.

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    daygeta19

    [2]Dec 1, 2006
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    I totally agree with you on this .
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    superqtpie

    [3]Dec 1, 2006
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    yeah and what ever happened to "azula always lies"??? i totally agree with u about the dream sequence part.
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    ZukoFan

    [4]Dec 1, 2006
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    BUMP.

    Sorry. Just wanted to bump this up for all the people who just saw the finale. :]

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    37381

    [5]Dec 1, 2006
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    superqtpie wrote:
    yeah and what ever happened to "azula always lies"??? i totally agree with u about the dream sequence part.

    You took that right out of my mouth. The "Azula always lies" at??least.??:O

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    ZukoFan

    [6]Dec 1, 2006
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    37381 wrote:

    superqtpie wrote:
    yeah and what ever happened to "azula always lies"??? i totally agree with u about the dream sequence part.

    You took that right out of my mouth. The "Azula always lies" at??least.??:O


    Uh. Yeah. Pretty much sums it all up. Zuko knows that she'll betray him if she hasn't already. I can see it coming...
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    fatzombiepigeon

    [7]Dec 1, 2006
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    Interesting theory.
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    susiequie

    [8]Dec 1, 2006
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    I agree!?? I just think he's come too far to let it all fall again.?? He knows how his sister is, he knows what his father's like.?? There were a few subtle hints thrown into the show to make me believe Iroh and he are up to something...I guess we'll see.
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    SapphireStones

    [9]Dec 1, 2006
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    Aw man! I put a theory on my blog about Zuko really being good....it doesn't say how this was a plan but still proves that he might not be completely bad. You should read it.

    Please?............ *makes pouty face*
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    Waterbender21

    [10]Dec 1, 2006
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    Do you have a theory for Zutara?
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    ZukoFan

    [11]Dec 1, 2006
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    SapphireStones wrote:
    Aw man! I put a theory on my blog about Zuko really being good....it doesn't say how this was a plan but still proves that he might not be completely bad. You should read it.

    Please?............ *makes pouty face*


    That's awesome. I agree 100%.
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    ZukoFan

    [12]Dec 1, 2006
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    Waterbender21 wrote:
    Do you have a theory for Zutara?


    Now? No. At least I don't have a theory for it. I'm sure sometime pretty wacked-out will form in my head eventually and let me tell you, this will probably the #1 place I post it. XD
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    mblizzow

    [13]Dec 1, 2006
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    susiequie wrote:
    I agree!?? I just think he's come too far to let it all fall again.?? He knows how his sister is, he knows what his father's like.?? There were a few subtle hints thrown into the show to make me believe Iroh and he are up to something...I guess we'll see.


    i dont know if i can take any more of the " i must capture the avatar" *in moody deep voice*
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    ZukoFan

    [14]Dec 1, 2006
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    mblizzow wrote:
    susiequie wrote:
    I agree!?? I just think he's come too far to let it all fall again.?? He knows how his sister is, he knows what his father's like.?? There were a few subtle hints thrown into the show to make me believe Iroh and he are up to something...I guess we'll see.


    i dont know if i can take any more of the " i must capture the avatar" *in moody deep voice*


    I don't think he can either. oO;;
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    SapphireStones

    [15]Dec 1, 2006
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    ZukoFan wrote:
    SapphireStones wrote:
    Aw man! I put a theory on my blog about Zuko really being good....it doesn't say how this was a plan but still proves that he might not be completely bad. You should read it.

    Please?............ *makes pouty face*


    That's awesome. I agree 100%.



    Yours is a bit more cooler sounding......ahh! He HAS to be good!
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    SapphireStones

    [16]Dec 1, 2006
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    Waterbender21 wrote:
    Do you have a theory for Zutara?

    I wish. I love Zutara as much as the next one, but it's not looking good right now. We're kinda between a rock and a hard place right now....
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    mblizzow

    [17]Dec 1, 2006
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    not so much into zutara, more into lets save the world.
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    StarWarsGuru66

    [18]Dec 1, 2006
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    ZukoFan wrote:

    I was just recently having a complete meltdown because of... well, everyone who's seen the finale should know perfectly well what I'm talking about.

    But I have an idea... just a little one... tricky... and very possibly not going to happen, but it helps me believe that he's still going to turn around and kick some serious Azula-butt.


    OKAY! This is what I think:

    Zuko and Iroh were left behind and before Azula crashed in, Iroh said he was going to have a 'talk' with Zuko. Then they were interrupted, Azula made her proposal, and went after Aang.... No one knows whether or not Iroh talked to Zuko. WHAT IF it was Iroh's PLAN to have Zuko go with Azula, knowing that it would keep him safe. They devised it to make it look like Zuko was actually the bad guy and have Iroh get arrested - AKA: They both remain in Ba-Sing-Se.

    NOW. That is NOT all, my fellow fanatics... What if Zuko actually proposed this plan to Iroh and it was his plot for Azula to teach??him to make lightning? Like, knowing somewhere in the back of his mind that his father may actually care for him now that he's betrayed everyone he loves, that he can get passed that, calm himself down, and do the whole seperate his chi's [sp?] and make the lightning.


    Anyways - that was just my thought process. My little shred of hope that he isn't as completely wacked out and demonic as his sister.


    Oh. And did anyone notice how the convo in the cave with Iroh and Azula trying to push things on Zuko was exactly like his dream? Where Azula was trying to make Zuko do bad things while Iroh tried to keep him from it? Yeah... I dunno.


    Discuss.

    Or Zuko made the plan but didn't tell iroh so iroh would look like he realy thought zuko had turned.I heared a saying some were?? I think it goes"in order to decive your enemy first you must decive your ally" I pretty sure it means if you trick your ally's into thinking you've switch sides it's easier to make your enemy think so.

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    SapphireStones

    [19]Dec 1, 2006
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    StarWarsGuru66 wrote:
    ZukoFan wrote:

    I was just recently having a complete meltdown because of... well, everyone who's seen the finale should know perfectly well what I'm talking about.

    But I have an idea... just a little one... tricky... and very possibly not going to happen, but it helps me believe that he's still going to turn around and kick some serious Azula-butt.


    OKAY! This is what I think:

    Zuko and Iroh were left behind and before Azula crashed in, Iroh said he was going to have a 'talk' with Zuko. Then they were interrupted, Azula made her proposal, and went after Aang.... No one knows whether or not Iroh talked to Zuko. WHAT IF it was Iroh's PLAN to have Zuko go with Azula, knowing that it would keep him safe. They devised it to make it look like Zuko was actually the bad guy and have Iroh get arrested - AKA: They both remain in Ba-Sing-Se.

    NOW. That is NOT all, my fellow fanatics... What if Zuko actually proposed this plan to Iroh and it was his plot for Azula to teach??him to make lightning? Like, knowing somewhere in the back of his mind that his father may actually care for him now that he's betrayed everyone he loves, that he can get passed that, calm himself down, and do the whole seperate his chi's [sp?] and make the lightning.


    Anyways - that was just my thought process. My little shred of hope that he isn't as completely wacked out and demonic as his sister.


    Oh. And did anyone notice how the convo in the cave with Iroh and Azula trying to push things on Zuko was exactly like his dream? Where Azula was trying to make Zuko do bad things while Iroh tried to keep him from it? Yeah... I dunno.


    Discuss.

    Or Zuko made the plan but didn't tell iroh so iroh would look like he realy thought zuko had turned.I heared a saying some were?? I think it goes"in order to decive your enemy first you must decive your ally" I pretty sure it means if you trick your ally's into thinking you've switch sides it's easier to make your enemy think so.

    Hell yes. When I first watched the epi tonite I was like, "You traitor!" But i've thought about it and am 80% positive that he is still on the good side.
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    lastchancexi

    [20]Dec 1, 2006
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    Or Zuko made the plan but didn't tell iroh so iroh would look like he realy thought zuko had turned.I heared a saying some were I think it goes"in order to decive your enemy first you must decive your ally" I pretty sure it means if you trick your ally's into thinking you've switch sides it's easier to make your enemy think so.

    This is a terrible, terrible idea. Zuko's redemption isn't complete yet. You'll be much, much happier when Zuko overcomes this huge mistake and earns Katara's love. Ok, so that second part isn't happening and I'm just screwing with you. But Zuko redemption without ever confronting his father? Not happening. He will do it S3, and I'll be in his corner. Oh, and he doesn't need to capture the Avatar. He has his honor back. Meh, sometimes we don't want the things we wish for, sometimes we pay far too high a price for them. I think that applies to Zuko right now.
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