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    misterham

    [21]Oct 2, 2006
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    avatars can bend lava. i'm guessing it's mostly/all firebending in the show, but logically it should mostly be earth since lava is hot earth.

    waterbenders and earthbenders can both bend mud. mud = water+earth. when the water is bended, the earth dissolved in the water goes with it. and vice versa

    and katara isn't a earthbender so of course toph is a better earthbender than she is
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    KilalaRose

    [22]Oct 2, 2006
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    misterham wrote:
    avatars can bend lava. i'm guessing it's mostly/all firebending in the show, but logically it should mostly be earth since lava is hot earth.

    waterbenders and earthbenders can both bend mud. mud = water+earth. when the water is bended, the earth dissolved in the water goes with it. and vice versa

    and katara isn't a earthbender so of course toph is a better earthbender than she is
    who said katara was an earthbender?
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    misterham

    [23]Oct 2, 2006
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    tc2r wrote:
    Seeing as Toph is a better earthbender than Katara


    it was kinda a joke. i think i know what he means, and i'm just gonna say that you can't compare skill levels with between different types of bending. plus, toph has her magical senses, which makes it kinda unfair to compare her with other benders (i guess air is an exception, though i'm wondering how she can feel ants walking, yet she can't feel aang vibrating the air when he floats)
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    KilalaRose

    [24]Oct 2, 2006
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    misterham wrote:
    tc2r wrote:
    Seeing as Toph is a better earthbender than Katara


    it was kinda a joke. i think i know what he means, and i'm just gonna say that you can't compare skill levels with between different types of bending. plus, toph has her magical senses, which makes it kinda unfair to compare her with other benders (i guess air is an exception, though i'm wondering how she can feel ants walking, yet she can't feel aang vibrating the air when he floats)
    oh, sorry...i'm slow sometimes
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    Miroku_of_Nite1

    [25]Oct 2, 2006
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    KilalaRose wrote:
    Miroku_of_Nite1 wrote:
    I am sure a earth bender could bend lava, being lava is just molten rock. But I dont think a earth bender would be very effective at it due to its viscosity. A fire bender could bend the heat part of it I guess and move the rock also.

    There could be inbetween bending here.

    Water/Earth=mud

    Fire/Earth=lava

    Air/Water=clouds
    well, now that i think about it, maybe earthbenders simply can't bend lava. they can't bend metal because it was altered by man, and to get the metal you have to melt that natural metal and then cool it. so...since lava is molten rock, maybe the natural metals are dissolved in it and the earthbenders simply can't bend it?

    Well metal solid and made of iron and such. Earth bending is with stone not metals so maybe that is why they cant bend it.
    Molten rock is still rock though.
    I think it depends on the viscosity of the said thing being bent. Say you have two kinds of mud, one is really runny and watery, the other kind is really thick. This could also go for lava being lava can flow like water or be like a moving rock slab. Now going back to the mud, if the mud is really watery then a water bender would have a advantage being there is more water to manipulate, like swamp water. But if the mud was really viscous with more dirt in it then a earth bender could manipulate it better being there is more earth then water in it. Now for the lava part.
    If you have lava that flows really quick then a fire bender most likely would have the advantage due to the extreme heat needed to liquify the lava, and the fact there would be a lack of solidness needed for the earth bender. But if the lava flows slowly like a rock slab then the earth bender would have the advantage being it is closer to being a solid rock
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    KingAtticus

    [26]Oct 2, 2006
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    niceguyposer wrote:
    KilalaRose wrote:
    KingAtticus wrote:
    You guys are thinking a bit too deeply on the issue.

    Lava is fired based because it's very hot and lethal, like fire and lightning. So its fire

    Clouds and vapor are water based, so its Water.

    Mud is wet dirt, so its under Earth.

    It's simple. There's no deep thought in it.
    then how come Katara could bend the mud in "The Drill", and then later Toph?

    According to your logic, Zuko, being a Firebender, can bend hot soup because it too is hot and lethal.


    No, the base of it is water. You don't eat fire like you do soup. Besides, Katara could only waterbend the water of the slurry, and Toph could bend the rock in it as well. The pressure of the water held back the rocks. And the rocks that escapes could be bended by Toph.
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    niceguyposer

    [27]Oct 2, 2006
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    KingAtticus wrote:
    niceguyposer wrote:
    KilalaRose wrote:
    KingAtticus wrote:
    You guys are thinking a bit too deeply on the issue.

    Lava is fired based because it's very hot and lethal, like fire and lightning. So its fire

    Clouds and vapor are water based, so its Water.

    Mud is wet dirt, so its under Earth.

    It's simple. There's no deep thought in it.
    then how come Katara could bend the mud in "The Drill", and then later Toph?

    According to your logic, Zuko, being a Firebender, can bend hot soup because it too is hot and lethal.


    No, the base of it is water. You don't eat fire like you do soup. Besides, Katara could only waterbend the water of the slurry, and Toph could bend the rock in it as well. The pressure of the water held back the rocks. And the rocks that escapes could be bended by Toph.

    I was using your logic with just a smidge of sarcasm. Improve your observation skills. You said that Firebenders should be able to bend lava because it's hot and lethal.
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    KilalaRose

    [29]Oct 3, 2006
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    KingAtticus wrote:
    niceguyposer wrote:
    KilalaRose wrote:
    KingAtticus wrote:
    You guys are thinking a bit too deeply on the issue.

    Lava is fired based because it's very hot and lethal, like fire and lightning. So its fire

    Clouds and vapor are water based, so its Water.

    Mud is wet dirt, so its under Earth.

    It's simple. There's no deep thought in it.
    then how come Katara could bend the mud in "The Drill", and then later Toph?

    According to your logic, Zuko, being a Firebender, can bend hot soup because it too is hot and lethal.


    Besides, Katara could only waterbend the water of the slurry, and Toph could bend the rock in it as well. The pressure of the water held back the rocks. And the rocks that escapes could be bended by Toph.
    so? the point is that Katara and Toph can bend their element even when it's mixed with something. so that proves that both earthbenders and waterbenders can bend mud.
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    Songoftheskies

    [30]Oct 3, 2006
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    I'm pretty sure water and earthbenders can both bend mud, because it is a balance between the two. Remember, Katara bended that sewage in Return to Omashu.

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    JonathonWolf

    [31]Oct 3, 2006
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    Earthbenders might not be able to bend lava because it's too soft.?? A part of the earthbender philosophy is stability and strength.?? They draw their power from the unmoveable ground.?? Recall that Toph had to bend the sand into a solid support for her to keep the Library from sinking because she didn't have the solid base needed to draw power from.?? Katara was probably having some problems bending the sludge because she was trying to bend it without drawing the water out and have all the dirt piling on top of her.?? When Toph provided support, they probably split the difference so that each was actually bending their own element.?? This would give the appearance that Toph gave a sizeable boost to the effort.?? I don't think it's ever been actually stated that firebenders can bend lava.?? Only Avata Roku has been attributed with this ability.?? It could be because he was an avatar and was combining all the elements.?? Lava flows like water and burns like fire.?? It is made of earth.?? And he could have used air to guide and cool it.
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    misterham

    [32]Oct 3, 2006
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    but sandbenders are earthbenders and they can bend sand
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    Miroku_of_Nite1

    [33]Oct 3, 2006
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    A Earth Bender may beable to bend lava but it depends on its viscosity.
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    JonathonWolf

    [34]Oct 3, 2006
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    misterham wrote:
    but sandbenders are earthbenders and they can bend sand


    As was stated previously, sand is earth.?? The earthbenders were able to use the loose coal to fight with, so it's possible sandbenders can do something similar.?? Fighting in sand is still using the strength and stability of the earth but in a slightly different way.?? Sand can be used to absorb shock or force received.?? And it would only take a slight shift of the stance to create the same unmoveable entity.?? Instead of forcing up pieces of earth like regular benders, they solidify and project the sand.?? I look at it like being an offshoot of earthbending.?? Kung fu has many different styles with different philosophies, but a great many can be traced back to the same schools.
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    tc2r

    [35]Oct 4, 2006
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    do you think an airbender and waterbender would be able to create a hurricane? and I mean like a 4-7 on the scale type hurricane.
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    VincentMagius

    [36]Oct 4, 2006
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    tc2r wrote:
    do you think an airbender and waterbender would be able to create a hurricane? and I mean like a 4-7 on the scale type hurricane.


    If you get strong enough benders,then yes, theoretically they should. Likely, it would take several of each kind to reach the level you want.

    Added note. Hurricanes, like tornades, are only rate 1-5. You may be thinking of the Richter Magnitude for earthquakes, which can reach a possible 10.
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    tc2r

    [37]Oct 4, 2006
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    you're right, i was thinking of the earthquake scale >_>
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