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which will happen (zutara or kataraang?)

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    Falcondude123

    [301]Mar 31, 2007
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    Zutara is fun to think about, and the creators like to push us all towards it just so we can be dissapointed, because it sells. But seriously when you think about it, Zuko ending up with Katara is like Princess Leia ending up with Darth Vader (minus the fact that she is his daughter...eww!) but you get my point!

    I guess the reason people like to think about Zutara is because Zuko and Katara are teens and enemies, and the whole "love conquers all" theme is really attractive to young people who dream of falling in love someday or whatever. The simple fact is that Zutara would destroy the whole plot of the show. The bad guy becomes good and he and good girl get hitched and suddenly all fighting stops and there is no antagonist that Aang must fight to save the day. The creators just can't have it happen this way, because it would completely undermine two whole season's of work.

    Zutara is a myth. Not only is it impossible, but it is a bad idea too.
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    RafaelTheWeird

    [302]Mar 31, 2007
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    SapphireStones wrote:
    Oh and P.S.~ In case Kataangers haven't noticed, Kataang suffered just as much during the season finale as Zutara did.



    bull.
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    RafaelTheWeird

    [303]Mar 31, 2007
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    Falcondude123 wrote:
    Zutara is fun to think about, and the creators like to push us all towards it just so we can be dissapointed, because it sells. But seriously when you think about it, Zuko ending up with Katara is like Princess Leia ending up with Darth Vader (minus the fact that she is his daughter...eww!) but you get my point!

    I guess the reason people like to think about Zutara is because Zuko and Katara are teens and enemies, and the whole "love conquers all" theme is really attractive to young people who dream of falling in love someday or whatever. The simple fact is that Zutara would destroy the whole plot of the show. The bad guy becomes good and he and good girl get hitched and suddenly all fighting stops and there is no antagonist that Aang must fight to save the day. The creators just can't have it happen this way, because it would completely undermine two whole season's of work.

    Zutara is a myth. Not only is it impossible, but it is a bad idea too.


    thats some of the best logic ive read all day on these basted forums. I agree with all your reasoning, and not only that, i'd like to add the mystique' of wether the creators would really brake aang's hearts like that... ... they've messed with his love before by having katara ignore his love confessions in several eps. but would they really strike his heart with lightning by having zutara happen?
    NO... they wouldnt... beleive that they wont, please...
    KATAANG SUPPORTERS UNITE!!
    -The Weird
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    titiembe

    [304]Mar 31, 2007
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    RafaelTheWeird wrote:
    Falcondude123 wrote:
    Zutara is fun to think about, and the creators like to push us all towards it just so we can be dissapointed, because it sells. But seriously when you think about it, Zuko ending up with Katara is like Princess Leia ending up with Darth Vader (minus the fact that she is his daughter...eww!) but you get my point!

    I guess the reason people like to think about Zutara is because Zuko and Katara are teens and enemies, and the whole "love conquers all" theme is really attractive to young people who dream of falling in love someday or whatever. The simple fact is that Zutara would destroy the whole plot of the show. The bad guy becomes good and he and good girl get hitched and suddenly all fighting stops and there is no antagonist that Aang must fight to save the day. The creators just can't have it happen this way, because it would completely undermine two whole season's of work.

    Zutara is a myth. Not only is it impossible, but it is a bad idea too.


    thats some of the best logic ive read all day on these basted forums. I agree with all your reasoning, and not only that, i'd like to add the mystique' of wether the creators would really brake aang's hearts like that... ... they've messed with his love before by having katara ignore his love confessions in several eps. but would they really strike his heart with lightning by having zutara happen?
    NO... they wouldnt... beleive that they wont, please...
    KATAANG SUPPORTERS UNITE!!
    -The Weird


    (grabs anti zutara picket signs) WOOT!!! (shoots cannon into some random zutara supporters face) now where did that come from???
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    DigiPhantom

    [305]Mar 31, 2007
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    titiembe wrote:
    RafaelTheWeird wrote:
    Falcondude123 wrote:
    Zutara is fun to think about, and the creators like to push us all towards it just so we can be dissapointed, because it sells. But seriously when you think about it, Zuko ending up with Katara is like Princess Leia ending up with Darth Vader (minus the fact that she is his daughter...eww!) but you get my point! I guess the reason people like to think about Zutara is because Zuko and Katara are teens and enemies, and the whole "love conquers all" theme is really attractive to young people who dream of falling in love someday or whatever. The simple fact is that Zutara would destroy the whole plot of the show. The bad guy becomes good and he and good girl get hitched and suddenly all fighting stops and there is no antagonist that Aang must fight to save the day. The creators just can't have it happen this way, because it would completely undermine two whole season's of work. Zutara is a myth. Not only is it impossible, but it is a bad idea too.
    thats some of the best logic ive read all day on these basted forums. I agree with all your reasoning, and not only that, i'd like to add the mystique' of wether the creators would really brake aang's hearts like that... ... they've messed with his love before by having katara ignore his love confessions in several eps. but would they really strike his heart with lightning by having zutara happen? NO... they wouldnt... beleive that they wont, please... KATAANG SUPPORTERS UNITE!! -The Weird
    (grabs anti zutara picket signs) WOOT!!! (shoots cannon into some random zutara supporters face) now where did that come from???

    Yeah, really. Let the Canon vs. Fanon Bash begin!And who says Kataang isn't more likely? Zutara and Kataang arn't exactly 50/50. Unless some how, Zutara will be seriously built and developed in season 3, to the point where Katara is conflicted and can't decide who she "loves" more...no.
    Fiction doesn't have stastistics, it has logic.
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    RafaelTheWeird

    [306]Mar 31, 2007
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    DigiPhantom wrote:
    titiembe wrote:
    RafaelTheWeird wrote:
    Falcondude123 wrote:
    Zutara is fun to think about, and the creators like to push us all towards it just so we can be dissapointed, because it sells. But seriously when you think about it, Zuko ending up with Katara is like Princess Leia ending up with Darth Vader (minus the fact that she is his daughter...eww!) but you get my point! I guess the reason people like to think about Zutara is because Zuko and Katara are teens and enemies, and the whole "love conquers all" theme is really attractive to young people who dream of falling in love someday or whatever. The simple fact is that Zutara would destroy the whole plot of the show. The bad guy becomes good and he and good girl get hitched and suddenly all fighting stops and there is no antagonist that Aang must fight to save the day. The creators just can't have it happen this way, because it would completely undermine two whole season's of work. Zutara is a myth. Not only is it impossible, but it is a bad idea too.
    thats some of the best logic ive read all day on these basted forums. I agree with all your reasoning, and not only that, i'd like to add the mystique' of wether the creators would really brake aang's hearts like that... ... they've messed with his love before by having katara ignore his love confessions in several eps. but would they really strike his heart with lightning by having zutara happen? NO... they wouldnt... beleive that they wont, please... KATAANG SUPPORTERS UNITE!! -The Weird
    (grabs anti zutara picket signs) WOOT!!! (shoots cannon into some random zutara supporters face) now where did that come from???

    Yeah, really. Let the Canon vs. Fanon Bash begin!And who says Kataang isn't more likely? Zutara and Kataang arn't exactly 50/50. Unless some how, Zutara will be seriously built and developed in season 3, to the point where Katara is conflicted and can't decide who she "loves" more...no.
    Fiction doesn't have stastistics, it has logic.


    Exactly. *joins titiembe in the angry mobs that are fun*
    YEAH! KATAANG FOREVER BABY! WOOT WOOT! *cheers of crowd*
    My twin sister is a Zutarian just to annoy me.
    (dont start stereotypically saying "aren't twins supposed to be alike?" because i WILL severely hit you with one of our picket signs.)
    Kataang FOREVER. period.
    -The Weird
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    LeonMorado

    [307]Mar 31, 2007
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    i said kataang isn't more likely, and i stand by that. it's more expected, not more likely. and no, fiction doesn't operate on "logic" either. only expectations. logic has got to be one of the most abused words in the english language.

    frankly, the only rules a work of fiction has to follow are those of its writers. there's no validity to the claim that kataang is more likely, unless you're claiming the writers decide what to do next based on the opinions of a lunatic fringe of their fanbase(that would be all of us here), or on what would be most expected.

    the only thing on which we can base any valid speculation is what we can expect from the writiers. some of you may claim that if the writers go with zutara it would "ruin the show" or it would "contradict the story so far," but that's because you base your expectations on what you want to see, not on the overall flow of the show itself. in the end, the only ones disappointed are the ones who "know" they're right.

    it's only 2/3 over. we can't know the overall flow of the show based on that alone. you can love and support your ship come to no end but there's no need to bash someone else's in the process. *braids hair*
    *busts out guitar*

    make lunch, not war.
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    electricblue18

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    LeonMorado wrote:
    i said kataang isn't more likely, and i stand by that. it's more expected, not more likely. and no, fiction doesn't operate on "logic" either. only expectations. logic has got to be one of the most abused words in the english language.

    frankly, the only rules a work of fiction has to follow are those of its writers. there's no validity to the claim that kataang is more likely, unless you're claiming the writers decide what to do next based on the opinions of a lunatic fringe of their fanbase(that would be all of us here), or on what would be most expected.

    the only thing on which we can base any valid speculation is what we can expect from the writiers. some of you may claim that if the writers go with zutara it would "ruin the show" or it would "contradict the story so far," but that's because you base your expectations on what you want to see, not on the overall flow of the show itself. in the end, the only ones disappointed are the ones who "know" they're right.

    it's only 2/3 over. we can't know the overall flow of the show based on that alone. you can love and support your ship come to no end but there's no need to bash someone else's in the process. *braids hair*
    *busts out guitar*

    make lunch, not war.
    *applauds*
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    RafaelTheWeird

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    LeonMorado wrote:
    i said kataang isn't more likely, and i stand by that. it's more expected, not more likely. and no, fiction doesn't operate on "logic" either. only expectations. logic has got to be one of the most abused words in the english language.

    frankly, the only rules a work of fiction has to follow are those of its writers. there's no validity to the claim that kataang is more likely, unless you're claiming the writers decide what to do next based on the opinions of a lunatic fringe of their fanbase(that would be all of us here), or on what would be most expected.

    the only thing on which we can base any valid speculation is what we can expect from the writiers. some of you may claim that if the writers go with zutara it would "ruin the show" or it would "contradict the story so far," but that's because you base your expectations on what you want to see, not on the overall flow of the show itself. in the end, the only ones disappointed are the ones who "know" they're right.

    it's only 2/3 over. we can't know the overall flow of the show based on that alone. you can love and support your ship come to no end but there's no need to bash someone else's in the process. *braids hair*
    *busts out guitar*

    make lunch, not war.


    you're so logical leonmorado. heh. I suppose ur right, however i'm still HOPING and ROOTING for KATAANG. oh yeah.
    -The Weird
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    Ninja_Avatar875

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    RafaelTheWeird wrote:
    DigiPhantom wrote:
    titiembe wrote:
    RafaelTheWeird wrote:
    Falcondude123 wrote:
    Zutara is fun to think about, and the creators like to push us all towards it just so we can be dissapointed, because it sells. But seriously when you think about it, Zuko ending up with Katara is like Princess Leia ending up with Darth Vader (minus the fact that she is his daughter...eww!) but you get my point! I guess the reason people like to think about Zutara is because Zuko and Katara are teens and enemies, and the whole "love conquers all" theme is really attractive to young people who dream of falling in love someday or whatever. The simple fact is that Zutara would destroy the whole plot of the show. The bad guy becomes good and he and good girl get hitched and suddenly all fighting stops and there is no antagonist that Aang must fight to save the day. The creators just can't have it happen this way, because it would completely undermine two whole season's of work. Zutara is a myth. Not only is it impossible, but it is a bad idea too.
    thats some of the best logic ive read all day on these basted forums. I agree with all your reasoning, and not only that, i'd like to add the mystique' of wether the creators would really brake aang's hearts like that... ... they've messed with his love before by having katara ignore his love confessions in several eps. but would they really strike his heart with lightning by having zutara happen? NO... they wouldnt... beleive that they wont, please... KATAANG SUPPORTERS UNITE!! -The Weird
    (grabs anti zutara picket signs) WOOT!!! (shoots cannon into some random zutara supporters face) now where did that come from???

    Yeah, really. Let the Canon vs. Fanon Bash begin!And who says Kataang isn't more likely? Zutara and Kataang arn't exactly 50/50. Unless some how, Zutara will be seriously built and developed in season 3, to the point where Katara is conflicted and can't decide who she "loves" more...no.
    Fiction doesn't have stastistics, it has logic.
    Exactly. *joins titiembe in the angry mobs that are fun* YEAH! KATAANG FOREVER BABY! WOOT WOOT! *cheers of crowd* My twin sister is a Zutarian just to annoy me. (dont start stereotypically saying "aren't twins supposed to be alike?" because i WILL severely hit you with one of our picket signs.) Kataang FOREVER. period. -The Weird

    Wait for me!!

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    titiembe

    [311]Mar 31, 2007
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    RafaelTheWeird wrote:
    LeonMorado wrote:
    i said kataang isn't more likely, and i stand by that. it's more expected, not more likely. and no, fiction doesn't operate on "logic" either. only expectations. logic has got to be one of the most abused words in the english language.

    frankly, the only rules a work of fiction has to follow are those of its writers. there's no validity to the claim that kataang is more likely, unless you're claiming the writers decide what to do next based on the opinions of a lunatic fringe of their fanbase(that would be all of us here), or on what would be most expected.

    the only thing on which we can base any valid speculation is what we can expect from the writiers. some of you may claim that if the writers go with zutara it would "ruin the show" or it would "contradict the story so far," but that's because you base your expectations on what you want to see, not on the overall flow of the show itself. in the end, the only ones disappointed are the ones who "know" they're right.

    it's only 2/3 over. we can't know the overall flow of the show based on that alone. you can love and support your ship come to no end but there's no need to bash someone else's in the process. *braids hair*
    *busts out guitar*

    make lunch, not war.


    you're so logical leonmorado. heh. I suppose ur right, however i'm still HOPING and ROOTING for KATAANG. oh yeah.
    -The Weird


    Me too!!!
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    the_jaguarundi

    [312]Mar 31, 2007
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    Anyone who thinks Zuko/Katara is at all likely in canon is completely delusional.

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    electricblue18

    [313]Mar 31, 2007
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    electricblue18 wrote:
    Kataangers who bash Zutara and Zutarians who bash Kataangers are both ignorant. We must live in peace, for we are not the people of the ships, we are the people of avatar. Just like we are not the people of the nations, we are the people of the world, even though we are too unwilling to accept it ^_^
    *sighs* This is from another thread. Stop the shipping threads, PLEASE! There is no need to fight over a ship, because 1. It is stupid to fight over a 'ship' and 2. We have completely no idea what will happen, we don't write the show! I repeat, WE DON'T WRITE THE SHOW! Was anyone really expecting Azula to take over Ba Sing Se, or was anyone really expecting a completely new character to come in the second season and be the new villian, or was anyone expecting for there to be a good firebender come in and start teaching Aang firebending, or was anyone really expecting Zuko to go with Azula in the end? I doubt it, so stop arguing about the ships. Avatar is one of those shows where there are always 'twists'.
    Edited on 03/31/2007 9:03pm
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    OceanAngel1

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    just watch after all this arguing about who Katara will be with....she dies, the irony would be hilarious
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    tvs_num1_fan

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    i like Katara and Zuko but i dont think that it will happen cuz they are never together 'cep for in the season 2??ending and they were not there for very long. and now with Zuko and Azula in the Eart kingdom, who knows if they will meat again. but still you can hope, cuz i like them together. but i think it will end up being Katara and Aang.
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    pr0udZuTaRiAn

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    tvs_num1_fan wrote:
    i like Katara and Zuko but i dont think that it will happen cuz they are never together 'cep for in the season 2??ending and they were not there for very long. and now with Zuko and Azula in the Eart kingdom, who knows if they will meat again. but still you can hope, cuz i like them together. but i think it will end up being Katara and Aang.


    You mean meet? Anyways----

    What??

    GO ZUTARA!
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    DeadTeen

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    pr0udZuTaRiAn wrote:
    tvs_num1_fan wrote:
    i like Katara and Zuko but i dont think that it will happen cuz they are never together 'cep for in the season 2??ending and they were not there for very long. and now with Zuko and Azula in the Eart kingdom, who knows if they will meat again. but still you can hope, cuz i like them together. but i think it will end up being Katara and Aang.


    You mean meet? Anyways----

    What??

    GO ZUTARA!


    KATAANG!!!! aang loves katara too much she is the only one who can stop him in the avatar state and the one that keeps him going if zuko ends up with katara all those episodes of katara noticing aang (cave of two lovers, Fortune teller etc..) would be for nothing and aang would be totally feeling Disraught.
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    titiembe

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    DeadTeen wrote:
    pr0udZuTaRiAn wrote:
    tvs_num1_fan wrote:
    i like Katara and Zuko but i dont think that it will happen cuz they are never together 'cep for in the season 2??ending and they were not there for very long. and now with Zuko and Azula in the Eart kingdom, who knows if they will meat again. but still you can hope, cuz i like them together. but i think it will end up being Katara and Aang.


    You mean meet? Anyways----

    What??

    GO ZUTARA!


    KATAANG!!!! aang loves katara too much she is the only one who can stop him in the avatar state and the one that keeps him going if zuko ends up with katara all those episodes of katara noticing aang (cave of two lovers, Fortune teller etc..) would be for nothing and aang would be totally feeling Disraught.


    kataang forever. jeez proudzutarian get over it I am kataang is awesome like.
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    zuko412

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    I do doubt zutara will happen. But that's why I like it. If it does happen, awesome. If not, oh well, there's still a 1/25 chance of reading a good zutara fic.

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    DigiPhantom

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    LeonMorado wrote:
    i said kataang isn't more likely, and i stand by that. it's more expected, not more likely. and no, fiction doesn't operate on "logic" either. only expectations. logic has got to be one of the most abused words in the english language. frankly, the only rules a work of fiction has to follow are those of its writers. there's no validity to the claim that kataang is more likely, unless you're claiming the writers decide what to do next based on the opinions of a lunatic fringe of their fanbase(that would be all of us here), or on what would be most expected. the only thing on which we can base any valid speculation is what we can expect from the writiers. some of you may claim that if the writers go with zutara it would "ruin the show" or it would "contradict the story so far," but that's because you base your expectations on what you want to see, not on the overall flow of the show itself. in the end, the only ones disappointed are the ones who "know" they're right. it's only 2/3 over. we can't know the overall flow of the show based on that alone. you can love and support your ship come to no end but there's no need to bash someone else's in the process. *braids hair* *busts out guitar* make lunch, not war.

    Your saying that if the writers suddenly decided to, they could start throwing Zutara in, when we are two seasons into 3, when before we have had no Zutara hints and nothing but Kataang...yeah, sure. If the writers were good and sense they er...probably won't do that. so to me Kataang will probably happen.
    BTW, I am enjoying this disscusion. Keep it real man, I don't bash.
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