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Which Master was More Beneficial to Aang in the end

Which master was most beneficial

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    Water78

    [1]Aug 23, 2008
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    Which Master was More Beneficial to Aang in the end. Not sure but which teaching or who help or saved aang helped the most in the end?
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    EmoHaruno

    [2]Aug 23, 2008
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    Zuko. If Aang never learned firebending, he would have never been able to beat Ozai. Plus, in the first season he gave Aang fighting experience and bending practice

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    Axrendale

    [3]Aug 23, 2008
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    It's hard to say. First off though, I think we can eliminate Toph and Zuko from the list. As helpful as they were, they really didn't do anything for Aang other than teach him how to bend their elements. as for the others, here's how I see what they did for Aang:

    Katara:

    She was Aang's drive. Everything Aang was doing, he was doing for Katara. That's pretty important. She also played a huge role in helping Aang through his emotional toil when Appa went missing. That's pretty signifigant.

    The Monks:

    They provided the teachings and lifestyle that make Aang who he is. His entire character is based upon what they taught him. The Monks teachings were definitely essential.

    The Lion Turtle:

    Helped Aang see that there was a way for him to restore balance to the world without sacrificing his principles. For this, I think the Lion Turtle deserves a special mention - while some may disagree with me, I think that sparing Ozai was the most defining moment of Aang's character in the entire series.

    I think that someone else who should be mentioned is Roku. He was a tremendous help throughout the series. Another person who's been left out is the Guru Pahtik. Granted, it took Aang a while to open up the 7th Chakra, but without the Guru, Aang would never even have gotten that far.

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    sonjayRJskillz

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    Does it matter?

    All of the masters played a huge role in Aang's development as an avatar.

    One master was not more beneficial to Aang's success then another master was, they all contributed the same.

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    [5]Aug 23, 2008
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    They all helped equally, so it's hard just to say one
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    Axrendale

    [6]Aug 23, 2008
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    It is hard to say which one was the most beneficial, but they were definitely not all equal. As I said before, I really don't think Zuko and Toph ever did much for Aang other than teach him Earthbending and Firebending. All of Aang's other masters helped him in ways other than just learning how to fight.
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    Ratraccoon

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    I would say Zuko because of learning how to redirect lightning. if he had never learned that Ozai would have just fried him with lightning since it is nearly impossible to dodge something that moves at the speed of light. And the battle would have ended before he could get Ozai immobilized and use energy bending. The energy being may not have even been needed because Aang would have just needed to keep him pined down until help arrived. Sure it would have been harder to keep Ozai imprisoned if he still could bend but not impossible. Just look at the Boiling Rock prison it kept many firebenders in there.
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    Bluefiremaster

    [8]Aug 23, 2008
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    i think the person who doesnt get enough credit is azula. sure she hated aang and tried to kill him, but if aang had never met her, aang wouldnt nearly have had the amout of practice in fighting which would have made him easier to defeat for the fire lord. azula was aangs master in fights since she was the only bender who really gave aang a challenge and made aang fight for his life harder
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    isabelwhatx

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    Bluefiremaster wrote:
    i think the person who doesnt get enough credit is azula. sure she hated aang and tried to kill him, but if aang had never met her, aang wouldnt nearly have had the amout of practice in fighting which would have made him easier to defeat for the fire lord. azula was aangs master in fights since she was the only bender who really gave aang a challenge and made aang fight for his life harder

    I think Zuko fulfilled that job enough. Plus, if it wasn't for Azula, Aang would've had more time to master the elements. Azula constantly got in the way of his training.
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    Bluefiremaster

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    isabelwhatx wrote:
    Bluefiremaster wrote:
    i think the person who doesnt get enough credit is azula. sure she hated aang and tried to kill him, but if aang had never met her, aang wouldnt nearly have had the amout of practice in fighting which would have made him easier to defeat for the fire lord. azula was aangs master in fights since she was the only bender who really gave aang a challenge and made aang fight for his life harder
    I think Zuko fulfilled that job enough. Plus, if it wasn't for Azula, Aang would've had more time to master the elements. Azula constantly got in the way of his training.
    azula didnt get in the way. she helped him to fight better with the other elements. if he continuously fought zuko he would have lost against the fire lord cause god knows he only uses air on zuko
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    isabelwhatx

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    Bluefiremaster wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    Bluefiremaster wrote:
    i think the person who doesnt get enough credit is azula. sure she hated aang and tried to kill him, but if aang had never met her, aang wouldnt nearly have had the amout of practice in fighting which would have made him easier to defeat for the fire lord. azula was aangs master in fights since she was the only bender who really gave aang a challenge and made aang fight for his life harder
    I think Zuko fulfilled that job enough. Plus, if it wasn't for Azula, Aang would've had more time to master the elements. Azula constantly got in the way of his training.
    azula didnt get in the way. she helped him to fight better with the other elements. if he continuously fought zuko he would have lost against the fire lord cause god knows he only uses air on zuko

    Not true. Even as early as the second episode of the entire series you see Aang waterbending against Zuko. Azula didn't help Aang train. If anything, he got better at running away. Aang barely ever stayed to actually fight her. They rarely finished a battle.
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    Bluefiremaster

    [12]Aug 23, 2008
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    isabelwhatx wrote:
    Bluefiremaster wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    Bluefiremaster wrote:
    i think the person who doesnt get enough credit is azula. sure she hated aang and tried to kill him, but if aang had never met her, aang wouldnt nearly have had the amout of practice in fighting which would have made him easier to defeat for the fire lord. azula was aangs master in fights since she was the only bender who really gave aang a challenge and made aang fight for his life harder
    I think Zuko fulfilled that job enough. Plus, if it wasn't for Azula, Aang would've had more time to master the elements. Azula constantly got in the way of his training.
    azula didnt get in the way. she helped him to fight better with the other elements. if he continuously fought zuko he would have lost against the fire lord cause god knows he only uses air on zuko
    Not true. Even as early as the second episode of the entire series you see Aang waterbending against Zuko. Azula didn't help Aang train. If anything, he got better at running away. Aang barely ever stayed to actually fight her. They rarely finished a battle.
    i meant fight without the avatar state. thats the easy way out. and the battles aang completed with azula: Return to Omashua wen bumi lifted the rock up, the chase wen azula ran, the drill wen aang blasted her away, and crossroads wen aang got shot by lightning. aang and azula have never once faced off and not have sumone win
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    Axrendale wrote:

    It's hard to say. First off though, I think we can eliminate Toph and Zuko from the list. As helpful as they were, they really didn't do anything for Aang other than teach him how to bend their elements. as for the others, here's how I see what they did for Aang:

    Katara:

    She was Aang's drive. Everything Aang was doing, he was doing for Katara. That's pretty important. She also played a huge role in helping Aang through his emotional toil when Appa went missing. That's pretty signifigant.

    The Monks:

    They provided the teachings and lifestyle that make Aang who he is. His entire character is based upon what they taught him. The Monks teachings were definitely essential.

    The Lion Turtle:

    Helped Aang see that there was a way for him to restore balance to the world without sacrificing his principles. For this, I think the Lion Turtle deserves a special mention - while some may disagree with me, I think that sparing Ozai was the most defining moment of Aang's character in the entire series.

    I think that someone else who should be mentioned is Roku. He was a tremendous help throughout the series. Another person who's been left out is the Guru Pahtik. Granted, it took Aang a while to open up the 7th Chakra, but without the Guru, Aang would never even have gotten that far.

    I don't think it's fair to eliminate Toph and Zuko just like that. It's kind late so I'm not gonna get into it right now so I'll just say the Jist. Toph-taught him how to stand his ground. She showed him that dodging, which is basically what he was doing most of the time, isn't going to cut it. Zuko- besides the combat practice for 2 season (jk), he also helped Aang get over his fear of firebending. He also showed Aang that sometimes he had to fight for himself (which is kind of like Toph did). ANother thing he did for Aang was show him that not all firebenders were evil (ROku & Iroh helped with that too) and making friends with a firebender probubly helped him wiht the compassion thing Yangchen was talking about. + he's helping Aang rebuild the nations.
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    Axrendale

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    gilvatar: I'm not saying that Zuko and Toph weren't very important people for Aang, but they simply weren't as important as the others were.

    Bluefiremaster: if this is your way of scoring points for the ACC, it's not working. There is a time and place for worshipping Azula, and this is neither.

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    Bluefiremaster wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    Bluefiremaster wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    Bluefiremaster wrote:
    i think the person who doesnt get enough credit is azula. sure she hated aang and tried to kill him, but if aang had never met her, aang wouldnt nearly have had the amout of practice in fighting which would have made him easier to defeat for the fire lord. azula was aangs master in fights since she was the only bender who really gave aang a challenge and made aang fight for his life harder
    I think Zuko fulfilled that job enough. Plus, if it wasn't for Azula, Aang would've had more time to master the elements. Azula constantly got in the way of his training.
    azula didnt get in the way. she helped him to fight better with the other elements. if he continuously fought zuko he would have lost against the fire lord cause god knows he only uses air on zuko
    Not true. Even as early as the second episode of the entire series you see Aang waterbending against Zuko. Azula didn't help Aang train. If anything, he got better at running away. Aang barely ever stayed to actually fight her. They rarely finished a battle.
    i meant fight without the avatar state. thats the easy way out. and the battles aang completed with azula: Return to Omashua wen bumi lifted the rock up, the chase wen azula ran, the drill wen aang blasted her away, and crossroads wen aang got shot by lightning. aang and azula have never once faced off and not have sumone win

    Return to Omashu Aang was trying to run away. In the Drill it wasn't only Aang fighting Azula. Plus, Azula ran away. Crossroads of Destiny is one of the few episodes where there was a clear winner. Aang is an airbender, and airebenders are accustomed to running away and finding other ways to solve problems. He constantly tries to avoid Azula.
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    Axrendale wrote:

    gilvatar: I'm not saying that Zuko and Toph weren't very important people for Aang, but they simply weren't as important as the others were.

    Bluefiremaster: if this is your way of scoring points for the ACC, it's not working. There is a time and place for worshipping Azula, and this is neither.

    lol im not. i believe azula helped aang sharpen his battle skills. even if she didnt mean to
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    Bluefiremaster wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:

    gilvatar: I'm not saying that Zuko and Toph weren't very important people for Aang, but they simply weren't as important as the others were.

    Bluefiremaster: if this is your way of scoring points for the ACC, it's not working. There is a time and place for worshipping Azula, and this is neither.

    lol im not. i believe azula helped aang sharpen his battle skills. even if she didnt mean to

    You can say that about any character on the show that fought against Aang.
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    isabelwhatx wrote:
    Bluefiremaster wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    Bluefiremaster wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    Bluefiremaster wrote:
    i think the person who doesnt get enough credit is azula. sure she hated aang and tried to kill him, but if aang had never met her, aang wouldnt nearly have had the amout of practice in fighting which would have made him easier to defeat for the fire lord. azula was aangs master in fights since she was the only bender who really gave aang a challenge and made aang fight for his life harder
    I think Zuko fulfilled that job enough. Plus, if it wasn't for Azula, Aang would've had more time to master the elements. Azula constantly got in the way of his training.
    azula didnt get in the way. she helped him to fight better with the other elements. if he continuously fought zuko he would have lost against the fire lord cause god knows he only uses air on zuko
    Not true. Even as early as the second episode of the entire series you see Aang waterbending against Zuko. Azula didn't help Aang train. If anything, he got better at running away. Aang barely ever stayed to actually fight her. They rarely finished a battle.
    i meant fight without the avatar state. thats the easy way out. and the battles aang completed with azula: Return to Omashua wen bumi lifted the rock up, the chase wen azula ran, the drill wen aang blasted her away, and crossroads wen aang got shot by lightning. aang and azula have never once faced off and not have sumone win
    Return to Omashu Aang was trying to run away. In the Drill it wasn't only Aang fighting Azula. Plus, Azula ran away. Crossroads of Destiny is one of the few episodes where there was a clear winner. Aang is an airbender, and airebenders are accustomed to running away and finding other ways to solve problems. He constantly tries to avoid Azula.
    azula didnt so much run away as she was blown away. she didnt exactly intend to run
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    Bluefiremaster

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    isabelwhatx wrote:
    Bluefiremaster wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:

    gilvatar: I'm not saying that Zuko and Toph weren't very important people for Aang, but they simply weren't as important as the others were.

    Bluefiremaster: if this is your way of scoring points for the ACC, it's not working. There is a time and place for worshipping Azula, and this is neither.

    lol im not. i believe azula helped aang sharpen his battle skills. even if she didnt mean to
    You can say that about any character on the show that fought against Aang.
    um zhao didnt exactly help aang. zhao just managed to make himself look stupid
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    Axrendale

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    We're discussing the affect of Aang's masters. In no way, shape, or form was Azula Aang's master. So she's out of the argument.
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