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    thewerewolfmage

    [21]Jul 20, 2008
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    I kind of assumed that since we learned the original Airbenders learned from the Sky Bison, Aang and Appa could teach "non-benders". Were the original Airbenders not benders until they learned?
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    MajehKing

    [22]Jul 20, 2008
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    I don't know. Heritage does not necessarily gaurantee the bending gene will be passed. Remember the Earth twins from the episode, "The Fortuneteller?" One was a bender, the other wasn't. Aang could have fifty kids and not one of them turn out to be a bender. He could very well be the last of his kind.
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    Bandage2

    [23]Jul 20, 2008
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    latinblue wrote:
    Hmmm....we could also ask Bryke...they should know XD I like the theory about aang giving air-bending abilities to non-benders, it's the most likely.

    I've already touched on this in another thread... It's most likely that aang can't GIVE bending to anyone. Because 1 of 2 things would have to happen...

    He pulls bending energy out of no where...

    He pulls bending out of himself...

    Let's see why he could take firebending away, Ozai had firebending within him so aang could find it and take that energy away. Where does he get the type of energy to give someone airbending?

    Some of you might be thinking "DUH HE PULLS IT OUT OF HIMSELF"

    No. The turtle dude said "your own soul must be UNBENDABLE, or else it will become corrupted and you will be destroyed" so how would he bend out of his own soul? aang already proved his soul is unbendable, so that would never work. Thus, it seems as though while aang can take bending away, there's no real way to give it.

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    latinblue

    [24]Jul 20, 2008
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    Bandage2 wrote:

    latinblue wrote:
    Hmmm....we could also ask Bryke...they should know XD I like the theory about aang giving air-bending abilities to non-benders, it's the most likely.

    I've already touched on this in another thread... It's most likely that aang can't GIVE bending to anyone. Because 1 of 2 things would have to happen...

    He pulls bending energy out of no where...

    He pulls bending out of himself...

    Let's see why he could take firebending away, Ozai had firebending within him so aang could find it and take that energy away. Where does he get the type of energy to give someone airbending?

    Some of you might be thinking "DUH HE PULLS IT OUT OF HIMSELF"

    No. The turtle dude said "your own soul must be UNBENDABLE, or else it will become corrupted and you will be destroyed" so how would he bend out of his own soul? aang already proved his soul is unbendable, so that would never work. Thus, it seems as though while aang can take bending away, there's no real way to give it.


    You are right...didn't thinkn it that way.

    So that brings me back to the theory that by the time the avatar has to be reborn an airbender again, new airbenders might have "evolved" naturally, like they might have done at the begining of times.
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    thewerewolfmage

    [25]Jul 20, 2008
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    MajehKing wrote:
    I don't know. Heritage does not necessarily gaurantee the bending gene will be passed. Remember the Earth twins from the episode, "The Fortuneteller?" One was a bender, the other wasn't. Aang could have fifty kids and not one of them turn out to be a bender. He could very well be the last of his kind.

    Heritage definitely has little to no part to it, if Katara is the last Waterbender in the South Pole. Gran Gran MAY have been a bender but I doubt she would supress it away from the Northern Water Tribe.

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    dantedones

    [26]Jul 20, 2008
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    he can give his airbending to Sokka
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    turnupthexradio

    [27]Jul 20, 2008
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    heres what ive been wondering:

    remember how each nation had its history of how to learn their bending? Earthbenders had the badgermoles, waterbenders had the moon and so on..

    well those were normal people who learned an artform all on their own.

    that being said couldnt any non-bender learn how to airbend?

    it may be far fetched but and it may sound dumb but ive always wondered about that.

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    turnupthexradio

    [28]Jul 20, 2008
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    i know this doesnt really have anything to do with the forum, but obviously im new here, so i was wondering how exactly do you get to higher levels?

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    latinblue

    [29]Jul 20, 2008
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    [QUOTE="turnupthexradio"]

    i know this doesnt really have anything to do with the forum, but obviously im new here, so i was wondering how exactly do you get to higher levels?

    [/QUOTE
    Posting a lot in the forums, doing lots of blogs, getting friends, adding shows, and most importantly: doing contributions.
    I guess there are more ways...thought I don't remember them.
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    collins79

    [30]Jul 20, 2008
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    I usually hate it when ppl get technical But here goes; The Aang katara re-population theory is impossible. It's a well know fact in anatomy and human reproduction that for any species to reproduces itself it takes 27 non-relation couples because of natural birth defects among the conceived no matter how long you give them. So it would seem the Aang giving bending powers to others or Airbenders evolving naturally or being taught by some other force of nature or animal is much more likely.
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    Bandage2

    [31]Jul 20, 2008
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    collins79 wrote:
    So it would seem the Aang giving bending powers to others is much more likely.


    read post 23, if the lion turtle was right, it's impossible for aang to GIVE bending to anyone
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    turnupthexradio

    [32]Jul 20, 2008
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    [QUOTE="latinblue"]
    turnupthexradio wrote:

    i know this doesnt really have anything to do with the forum, but obviously im new here, so i was wondering how exactly do you get to higher levels?

    [/QUOTE Posting a lot in the forums, doing lots of blogs, getting friends, adding shows, and most importantly: doing contributions. I guess there are more ways...thought I don't remember them.

    thanks

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    Eratos

    [33]Jul 20, 2008
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    Isn't it possible that there's some unknown tribe of airbenders, sort of like the waterbenders in the swamp?I assume that they'd be pretty deep in hiding and wouldn't make themselves known until after the war is over.
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    Ant407

    [34]Jul 20, 2008
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    Bandage2 wrote:
    collins79 wrote:
    So it would seem the Aang giving bending powers to others is much more likely.


    read post 23, if the lion turtle was right, it's impossible for aang to GIVE bending to anyone

    idk about that, you are looking at it as if he needs to take a part of himself to give airbending, who says he needs to have to give?

    Maybe he can influence the persons ener/y.spirit to be an airbeneder?
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    Pendragon_

    [35]Jul 20, 2008
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    I don't think the Avatar cycle could ever be broken by killing all the benders of any particular element. If no air benders existed when it became their turn again then I think the reincarnation would just skip them. In effect the air nomad avatar would have died before they were ever born so the spirit would simply move on to the next in line.

    However it is possible for non-benders to have bending children and whilst this is a technicality the avatar is by default a bender of all the arts. For example even if all fire benders were killed the water avatar could still use fire (just not very well) I think the same could be true in the other sense. Even if no air bender currently exists the avatar will always be an air bender so even if no air benders existed the air nomad avatar would still be born as the avatar is by default always an air bender no matter what. Heck even if no benders existed anywhere the avatar could still bend all 4 elements.

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    -TheSecondSign-

    [36]Jul 20, 2008
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    Ant407 wrote:
    Bandage2 wrote:
    collins79 wrote:
    So it would seem the Aang giving bending powers to others is much more likely.
    read post 23, if the lion turtle was right, it's impossible for aang to GIVE bending to anyone
    idk about that, you are looking at it as if he needs to take a part of himself to give airbending, who says he needs to have to give? Maybe he can influence the persons ener/y.spirit to be an airbeneder?
    What we do know is that airbenders pass on airbending more often than other bending forms within other bender families.

    Which explains the unusually vast number of airbending air nomads. They had bending children much more frequently...or just threw the ones that couldn't off the cliffside in a cruel, Spartan like manner. Maybe that's what they did to see if they COULD airbend. At the ripe age of five, they tossed them off the cliffside. I'm just kidding.

    I think there are a lot of unexplained ways for airbending to continue existing.

    The air nomads were NOMADS, meaning they travelled outside of their own society. Chances are some airbending offspring were created, and may be in hiding.

    Aang could father airbending children.

    Some airbenders magically escaped the genocide by hiding in a cave...or whatever.

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    -TheSecondSign-

    [37]Jul 20, 2008
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    MajehKing wrote:
    I don't know. Heritage does not necessarily gaurantee the bending gene will be passed. Remember the Earth twins from the episode, "The Fortuneteller?" One was a bender, the other wasn't. Aang could have fifty kids and not one of them turn out to be a bender. He could very well be the last of his kind.

    But Air Nomads, even by the word of the creators, give birth to bending children more frequently than not, increasing the chances of viable, airbending offspring.

    It had something to do with their spirituality and level of awareness. They had offspring capable of bending much, much more frequently. It seems to me that waterbending and earthbending aren't often found in children. There seem to be many more nonbenders than benders in all groups save airbenders, and maybe firebenders (That may simply be because we mostly see Fire Nation soldiers and warriors however).

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    MaddoKos

    [38]Jul 20, 2008
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    DrAvatar wrote:
    Katara + Aang = Baby Airbenders?


    ***SPOILER***


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    -TheSecondSign-

    [39]Jul 20, 2008
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    I bet your hawts for Katara is over right?
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    MaddoKos

    [40]Jul 20, 2008
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    -TheSecondSign- wrote:
    I bet your hawts for Katara is over right?


    Psh. Heeeeeeck no.
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