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    WiseLad

    [41]Oct 8, 2007
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    dumbTVnut wrote:
    WiseLad wrote:
    melbell23 wrote:

    Water78 wrote:
    Water78 wrote:
    amdragfreak wrote:
    Watch "The Swamp"
    It didnt show TOPH dieing it just showed her
    O just because Sokka and Katara saw somebody they loved and lost doesnt me TOPH is going to die.It was just people important to them

    I think the epi Swamp upped the odds of Toph dying. Didn't the swamp guy say that in the swamp you see visions of people you loved and lost? And then when Aang said that he had never seen the girl in his vision before, Swamp Guy said that time is immaterial. So technically, he could have loved and lost her.



    actually swamp guy said people we lost and loved, or people we think are gone, as we keep being connected, time is an illusion and so is death.

    when Aang asks why the girl, he never saw her, the Swamp shaman said "you are the avatar, what you think?" Aang said someone he will meet, as time is an illusion. there HAS BEEN NOTHING THAT SAYS the girl of Aang's vision will die, just that he will meet her in the future; plus the swamp might have called him specifically for that, nothing more.


    "People we lost and loved", got it: so Toph is going to get lost, hope they find her.


    Toph was an special case, toph was someone Aang would meet later on, the shaman nodded when Aang said "she is one I will meet in the future", technically she was lost, as Aang hadn't found her YET
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    dumbTVnut

    [42]Oct 8, 2007
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    WiseLad wrote:
    dumbTVnut wrote:
    WiseLad wrote:
    melbell23 wrote:

    Water78 wrote:
    Water78 wrote:
    amdragfreak wrote:
    Watch "The Swamp"
    It didnt show TOPH dieing it just showed her
    O just because Sokka and Katara saw somebody they loved and lost doesnt me TOPH is going to die.It was just people important to them

    I think the epi Swamp upped the odds of Toph dying. Didn't the swamp guy say that in the swamp you see visions of people you loved and lost? And then when Aang said that he had never seen the girl in his vision before, Swamp Guy said that time is immaterial. So technically, he could have loved and lost her.



    actually swamp guy said people we lost and loved, or people we think are gone, as we keep being connected, time is an illusion and so is death.

    when Aang asks why the girl, he never saw her, the Swamp shaman said "you are the avatar, what you think?" Aang said someone he will meet, as time is an illusion. there HAS BEEN NOTHING THAT SAYS the girl of Aang's vision will die, just that he will meet her in the future; plus the swamp might have called him specifically for that, nothing more.


    "People we lost and loved", got it: so Toph is going to get lost, hope they find her.


    Toph was an special case, toph was someone Aang would meet later on, the shaman nodded when Aang said "she is one I will meet in the future", technically she was lost, as Aang hadn't found her YET


    or she isn't special and she could die, occam's razor and all.
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    WiseLad

    [43]Oct 10, 2007
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    dumbtv, when I said special I was talking about the vision of Toph, not about Toph herself
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    dumbTVnut

    [44]Oct 10, 2007
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    WiseLad wrote:
    dumbtv, when I said special I was talking about the vision of Toph, not about Toph herself

    so? the vision may not have been special.
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    WiseLad

    [45]Oct 10, 2007
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    *in a sarcastic voice*

    sure!!!!!!!!!!!!

    that is why Aang felt pulled toward the swamp, and when he decided not to go there, suddenly a typhoon appeared that forced them to be there anyway

    yep, that doesn't make it special that he was there, than got a vision about someone he hadn't met yet (until 2 episodes later)
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    dumbTVnut

    [46]Oct 10, 2007
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    WiseLad wrote:
    *in a sarcastic voice*

    sure!!!!!!!!!!!!

    that is why Aang felt pulled toward the swamp, and when he decided not to go there, suddenly a typhoon appeared that forced them to be there anyway

    yep, that doesn't make it special that he was there, than got a vision about someone he hadn't met yet (until 2 episodes later)


    Then why show us the other mundane visions and then lead up to the whole "in the swamp we see people we love, people we lost" things, just show the one vision and say the swamp gives special people special visions.
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    WiseLad

    [47]Oct 10, 2007
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    Katara and Sokka were traveling with Aang, so that is why they ended up there, remember that Aang was the one who felt called to land at the swamp, not Katara or Sokka

    and than the swamp separated all 3 of them,(not just Aang, and leaving Katara and Sokka behind together, swamp separated all 3 from each other) as Aang could not get a vision if the other 2 were by his side, and since Katara and Sokka were there, they also got visions

    but unlike Aang who got a view of the future, they got the normal vision of people they lost and/or loved (Yue in a way still alive, as she is now the moon spirit)
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    dumbTVnut

    [48]Oct 10, 2007
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    WiseLad wrote:
    Katara and Sokka were traveling with Aang, so that is why they ended up there, remember that Aang was the one who felt called to land at the swamp, not Katara or Sokka and than the swamp separated all 3 of them,(not just Aang, and leaving Katara and Sokka behind together, swamp separated all 3 from each other) as Aang could not get a vision if the other 2 were by his side, and since Katara and Sokka were there, they also got visions but unlike Aang who got a view of the future, they got the normal vision of people they lost and/or loved (Yue in a way still alive, as she is now the moon spirit)
    yeah thats more complicated then simply giving Aang the vision, but this can be argue indefinitely until the end of the series or until they kill off Toph which ever comes first.
    Edited on 10/10/2007 7:32pm
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    Tidus14

    [49]Oct 10, 2007
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    I think instead of a big battle between Aang and the Fire nation, there gonna have sexy partay.

    And Zuko will randomly become the Avatar somehow.

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    Atu_1

    [50]Oct 11, 2007
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    dumbTVnut wrote:

    Katara: grossly over weight mother a 9, who dies due to climbing a flight of stairs up to her bed room and forcing her retard son to feed her more!

    Sokka: dies rich on a island covered with naked women

    Toph: dies do to karma prevent someone wit hthat much power from living to long.

    Aang: dies, is reincarnated as one of katara's unfortunate children who has to burn down the family house so they don't have to go though the spectacle of getting a crane to lift out their whale carcass of a dead mother.

    Azula: Lobotimized, lives in an asylum drawing pictures on the wall with her own excrement.

    Zuko: follows in uncle's foot steps and becomes a hobo that sells tea.

    Mai: writes some pathetically dark poetry and then slits her wrists.

    Ty lee: goes back to circus, goes though depression a alcoholism, comes out of the closet and marries azula and takes care of her.

    Katara and Aang's epilogues are from What's Eating Gilbert Grape huh? I think if anyone is going to die, it's going to be Iroh and/or Ozai. I can't see anyone else dying, in my opinion.

    Lists arranged from top to bottom in order of most to least likelihood

    People they're definitely not killing off:

    Toph

    Katara

    Ty Lee

    Mai

    People they might kill off:

    Sokka

    Zuko

    Aang

    People they'll most likely kill off:

    Iroh

    Ozai

    Azula

    Edited on 10/11/2007 6:14am
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    dumbTVnut

    [51]Oct 11, 2007
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    Atu_1 wrote:
    dumbTVnut wrote:

    Katara: grossly over weight mother a 9, who dies due to climbing a flight of stairs up to her bed room and forcing her retard son to feed her more!

    Sokka: dies rich on a island covered with naked women

    Toph: dies do to karma prevent someone wit hthat much power from living to long.

    Aang: dies, is reincarnated as one of katara's unfortunate children who has to burn down the family house so they don't have to go though the spectacle of getting a crane to lift out their whale carcass of a dead mother.

    Azula: Lobotimized, lives in an asylum drawing pictures on the wall with her own excrement.

    Zuko: follows in uncle's foot steps and becomes a hobo that sells tea.

    Mai: writes some pathetically dark poetry and then slits her wrists.

    Ty lee: goes back to circus, goes though depression a alcoholism, comes out of the closet and marries azula and takes care of her.

    Katara and Aang's epilogues are from What's Eating Gilbert Grape huh? I think if anyone is going to die, it's going to be Iroh and/or Ozai. I can't see anyone else dying, in my opinion.

    Lists arranged from top to bottom in order of most to least likelihood

    People they're definitely not killing off:

    Toph

    Katara

    Ty Lee

    Mai

    People they might kill off:

    Sokka

    Zuko

    Aang

    People they'll most likely kill off:

    Iroh

    Ozai

    Azula



    I put references in almost ever post, you just got one congratulations, you win nothing though. Do you have any reasoning for you death odds?
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    Prince-Jayson

    [52]Oct 11, 2007
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    Atu_1 wrote:
    dumbTVnut wrote:

    Katara: grossly over weight mother a 9, who dies due to climbing a flight of stairs up to her bed room and forcing her retard son to feed her more!

    Sokka: dies rich on a island covered with naked women

    Toph: dies do to karma prevent someone wit hthat much power from living to long.

    Aang: dies, is reincarnated as one of katara's unfortunate children who has to burn down the family house so they don't have to go though the spectacle of getting a crane to lift out their whale carcass of a dead mother.

    Azula: Lobotimized, lives in an asylum drawing pictures on the wall with her own excrement.

    Zuko: follows in uncle's foot steps and becomes a hobo that sells tea.

    Mai: writes some pathetically dark poetry and then slits her wrists.

    Ty lee: goes back to circus, goes though depression a alcoholism, comes out of the closet and marries azula and takes care of her.

    Katara and Aang's epilogues are from What's Eating Gilbert Grape huh? I think if anyone is going to die, it's going to be Iroh and/or Ozai. I can't see anyone else dying, in my opinion.

    Lists arranged from top to bottom in order of most to least likelihood

    People they're definitely not killing off:

    Toph

    Katara

    Ty Lee

    Mai

    People they might kill off:

    Sokka

    Zuko

    Aang

    People they'll most likely kill off:

    Iroh

    Ozai

    Azula

    Why do u have a villian(Zuko) in the people they might kill off category?
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    Atu_1

    [53]Oct 11, 2007
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    My reasoning for them not killing off certain people is they're either too central to the plot or not important enough to kill off. The people they might kill off would be the ones to most likely change the course of the show's destiny (again). The people that are most likely to die; Ozai simply because the final battle may just be a fight to the death, Iroh dying would cause Zuko to grow up (sounds like a good idea that I had seen somewhere else. At first I just felt Iroh is the most likely person to die). The reason Zuko is in the list of people I think might die is because of those redemption theories I've seen of him sacrificing himself. I never really had any reasoning before now, it was just my guess/take on who I think isn't and is going to die.

    Edit (reorder)

    Zuko

    Sokka

    Edited on 10/11/2007 7:48am
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    WiseLad

    [54]Oct 11, 2007
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    not die
    Toph, Aang, Katara, Zuko, Sokka

    maybe but unlikely
    Ty Lee, Mai, Teo

    likely
    Iroh

    Definitely Azula, Ozai
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    dumbTVnut

    [55]Oct 11, 2007
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    So far the only character that have died are Uwe (what her name was) Jet, (what ever the heck the first villain was and (possibly) Suki. Killing off the villain is basically required so Azula and Ozai have high probabilities, But jet and suki were minor character why kill them off? Since they do kill off minor or none critical characters they could kill off Toph as she I not vital to the gaang (and she is was not an original member) Iroh is old and him and especially zuko are anitheros and just about anything could happen to those. Also there is rumor that we will be seeing evidence in the coming episodes that zuko and aang are connect spiritually or via fate which might also mean that if one dies the other will two.
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    Atu_1

    [56]Oct 11, 2007
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    Out of Zuko and Aang, only one of them would die. They probably would kill off Suki but it seems a little over-the-top to kill her. They're probably deciding if she should be alive or not and that's why the battle on Appa's Lost Days was left ambiguous.
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    dumbTVnut

    [57]Oct 11, 2007
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    Atu_1 wrote:
    Out of Zuko and Aang, only one of them would die. They probably would kill off Suki but it seems a little over-the-top to kill her. They're probably deciding if she should be alive or not and that's why the battle on Appa's Lost Days was left ambiguous.


    All death in this show is left ambigious, in fact when the first villian died there were many that said he would come back. Both aang and zuko dieing together woudl be more dramatic.
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    Atu_1

    [58]Oct 11, 2007
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    What I meant by ambiguous is that you don't see a "final blow" to Suki. We saw Zhao get grabbed by the water spirit. We witnessed Yue ascending into the sky. We saw Jet on the ground after he sustained injury to his head and heard Toph when she said he was lying about going to be ok. She could tell from his heart rate.
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    littlewillie610

    [59]Oct 18, 2007
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    I think this season is the best yet.
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    Katara14

    [60]Oct 26, 2007
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    Major Spoiler!

    The Puppetmaster - Katara learns bloodbending and at the end of episode she breaks down crying!

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