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    lionfamlee

    [1]Sep 26, 2006
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    All the elements have there stregnths and weaknesses!?? Since water benders can do exactly that "bend water"; the would be able to manipulate humans, animals, or any other water based life creature.?? Since the body is made up mostly of water.?? I do not expect the series to dwell on this, but I was thinking about the episode when they we in the swamp and the water benders there we bending the vines.?? Your thoughts...
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    BiSheng

    [2]Sep 26, 2006
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    lionfamlee wrote:
    All the elements have there stregnths and weaknesses! Since water benders can do exactly that "bend water"; the would be able to manipulate humans, animals, or any other water based life creature. Since the body is made up mostly of water. I do not expect the series to dwell on this, but I was thinking about the episode when they we in the swamp and the water benders there we bending the vines. Your thoughts...

    Yeah, but...
    The plants in the swamp were super-saturated with water, which would likely make it easier for water-benders to affect them. Water benders can also effect humans and animals, but so far the only example of this is a Waterbenders ability to heal wounds. In that instance the waterbender in question (Katara) needed an outside source of water each time.

    Also the water benders do not have an advantage in many situations: 1. They are weaker during the day. With humans being diurnal creators, this is when they would likely need to waterbend most.
    2. Like Earthbenders (and I suppose Airbenders) unless there is a source of the element they bend nearby, they cannot bend. And since humans live on land it's more likely for water not to be around than earth (and if there is no air, you have bigger problems).

    3.There source of power is tied to a couple of fish!

    They make up for these problems with some very useful skills :
    1. Changing the state of their element from liquid to solid to gas.

    2. The healing ability that some Waterbenders posses.

    3. The ability to control living things (despite it's limitations, whatever they are).

    4. VERY, fast travel on water.

    Still I'd say on balance they are one of the weaker combat styles, but their skill-set makes up for it somewhat.
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    lionfamlee

    [3]Sep 26, 2006
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    [QUOTE="BiSheng"]
    lionfamlee wrote:
    All the elements have there stregnths and weaknesses! Since water benders can do exactly that "bend water"; the would be able to manipulate humans, animals, or any other water based life creature. Since the body is made up mostly of water. I do not expect the series to dwell on this, but I was thinking about the episode when they we in the swamp and the water benders there we bending the vines. Your thoughts...
    Yeah, but... The plants in the swamp were super-saturated with water, which would likely make it easier for water-benders to affect them. Water benders can also effect humans and animals, but so far the only example of this is a Waterbenders ability to heal wounds. In that instance the waterbender in question (Katara) needed an outside source of water each time. Also the water benders do not have an advantage in many situations: 1. They are weaker during the day. With humans being diurnal creators, this is when they would likely need to waterbend most. 2. Like Earthbenders (and I suppose Airbenders) unless there is a source of the element they bend nearby, they cannot bend. And since humans live on land it's more likely for water not to be around than earth (and if there is no air, you have bigger problems). 3.There source of power is tied to a couple of fish! They make up for these problems with some very useful skills : 1. Changing the state of their element from liquid to solid to gas. 2. The healing ability that some Waterbenders posses. 3. The ability to control living things (despite it's limitations, whatever they are). 4. VERY, fast travel on water. Still I'd say on balance they are one of the weaker combat styles, but their skill-set makes up for it somewhat.[/QUOTE Good discussion, BiSheng. This is not a "this type of bending is better than the others. I stated that all the elements have there stregnths and weaknesses. I for one like air bending, especially since almost all things have some time up air make up(oxygen). Now, even though the vines wire really saturated in the swamp, the human body is just as much saturated if not more. Remember that the human body is made of 80%??water.?? ??Remember in the episodes "The Drill" the sand and water mix was probably about 50/50, but both were able to bend it. 1. Fire benders are also diurnally challenged (ha ha). I guess between fire and water bending one would need to stragtegize well when planning for battle. 2. I agree. Humans do live on land, but remember the earthis made up mostly of water. Air benders really would not have to be concerned about not having an air supply, becuase with no air, no life, no fighting because one could not breath, remember that without air fire canot exist. 3. True I know they are called fire benders, but I think of them as more fire creaters then benders. Once again this is not a thread saying which is bending is better. I just had the thought of water benders bending humans becuase of there water make-up. Once again, good discussion. ]
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    phoenixfirework

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    lionfamlee wrote:
    All the elements have there stregnths and weaknesses! Since water benders can do exactly that "bend water"; the would be able to manipulate humans, animals, or any other water based life creature. Since the body is made up mostly of water. I do not expect the series to dwell on this, but I was thinking about the episode when they we in the swamp and the water benders there we bending the vines. Your thoughts...

    This thread (and many others just like it) have already been made.
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    BiSheng

    [5]Sep 26, 2006
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    I realize what your trying to say, that this is one of the advantages to waterbending, but plants in swamps (at least of the kind that were being bent) have a MUCH higher percentage of water in their makeup, close to 90%. Also, water doesn???t often exist in the human body; true, if you look at our chemical make-up their is a lot of water in the human body, but most of it is bonded to other chemicals. Plus the series is about a return to balance; if waterbenders could control the human body that would unbalance things in their favor.

    Also two things about this post:
    1. It could have gone under one of the MANY what's your favorite type of bending posts, since this has been discussed before. I know this isn???t your favorite type, but it could be used to further discussion.

    2. You should learn to edit you posts so that it's not all just one big block. This makes reading what you said very dificult.
    Edited on 09/26/2006 7:25am
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    lionfamlee

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    BiSheng wrote:
    I realize what your trying to say, that this is one of the advantages to waterbending, but plants in swamps (at least of the kind that were being bent) have a MUCH higher percentage of water in their makeup, close to 90%. Also, water doesn???t often exist in the human body; true, if you look at our chemical make-up their is a lot of water in the human body, but most of it is bonded to other chemicals. Plus the series is about a return to balance; if waterbenders could control the human body that would unbalance things in their favor.

    Also two things about this post:
    1. It could have gone under one of the MANY what's your favorite type of bending posts, since this has been discussed before. I know this isn???t your favorite type, but it could be used to further discussion.

    2. You should learn to edit you posts so that it's not all just one big block. This makes reading what you said very dificult.
    Well, thanks for the info, but I did a search for this topic and nothing came up. I am sure there are many water bending topics.

    Actually, it was in a much easier format to read, but when I was typing it and I clicked submit message it gave the error message that readthat a word had been censored. The word was water for some reason.
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    windseeker15

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    I just wonder if waterbenders would be able to manipulate any liquid. Esp. in the human body, like blood, the digestive stuff in your stomach, liquid around the brain, etc. Coause that would be pretty deadly, if they could freeze it or stop/reverse the flow.
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    Eman5805

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    windseeker15 wrote:
    I just wonder if waterbenders would be able to manipulate any liquid. Esp. in the human body, like blood, the digestive stuff in your stomach, liquid around the brain, etc. Coause that would be pretty deadly, if they could freeze it or stop/reverse the flow.

    Imagine a Waterbender assassin like Scar from FMA he could make your brain go SPLAT from the inside out without even touching you...

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    IdeaBender

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    Although an interesting possibility, it wouldn't happen. The character next to the water character in the intro means "kind", so I'm sure waterbending in a human would only be used to heal.
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    dumbTVnut

    [10]Sep 26, 2006
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    Katara: You do not see anyone here *does waving motion with hands*
    Azula, Mai and Ty Lee: We don???t see anyone here.
    Katara: Your going to go back to the firenation and??? aaah???
    Aang: Pssss, make them say they are going back to pick their nose.
    Katara: Ahhh ok, you are going back to the firenation to pick your nose
    Azula, Mai and Ty Lee: We are going back to the fire nation to pick our nose.
    Aang: HAHA that is great! *Falls over laughing*
    Sokka: Oh I got an idea! Make them say there going back to have an orgy and they are going to let Sokka watch!
    Katara: Sick! NO!

    And that is why water benders can???t bend people.
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    KilalaRose

    [11]Sep 27, 2006
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    It says in the Nick.com Avatar site that Waterbending Masters are, in fact, able to control a person with the water in their body like a living puppet. But it also says that waterbenders would rather not do it. As you can see, water is a healing element, and they'd rather do that than harm. It's sort of like the way of the airbender monks, who liked to live in peace.
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    dumbTVnut

    [12]Sep 28, 2006
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    KilalaRose wrote:
    It says in the Nick.com Avatar site that Waterbending Masters are, in fact, able to control a person with the water in their body like a living puppet. But it also says that waterbenders would rather not do it. As you can see, water is a healing element, and they'd rather do that than harm. It's sort of like the way of the airbender monks, who liked to live in peace.


    Could your direct us to where it says this or quote it?
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    KilalaRose

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    dumbTVnut wrote:
    KilalaRose wrote:
    It says in the Nick.com Avatar site that Waterbending Masters are, in fact, able to control a person with the water in their body like a living puppet. But it also says that waterbenders would rather not do it. As you can see, water is a healing element, and they'd rather do that than harm. It's sort of like the way of the airbender monks, who liked to live in peace.
    Could your direct us to where it says this or quote it?
    Sure, and??I quote: "At close ranges, an expert Waterbender uses their opponent's body against them. They harness the ample amount of water within the human body to control an opponent like a puppet master. The tendencies to control rather than destroy, and to heal rahter than to harm, embody the humane and noble characteristics of the Water Tribes." Or, you could go here http://www.nick.com/all_nick/tv_supersites/avatar2/. Then click on one of the symbols of the elements in the corner of the map, then click The Bending Arts thing at the top. Then scroll down to waterbending. It says these exact words in the last few sentences of the section.
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