Avatar: The Last Airbender: Villain Question (Possible Spoilers)

amdragfreak
[1]Jul 17, 2008
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Do you remember the book before the season started? It mentioned that there would be a villain with a disturbing connection to Sokka and Katara. After watching The Southern Raiders, it made me wonder what villain they were talking about.
Hama, who is the only other waterbender besides Katara, or their mother's killer?
I ask because for some very very strange reason, I'm wondering if that Yon-Rah guy was really all that much of a villain. I guess the reason I think this is because that the guy killed Kya, yes, there is no denying that that was evil. However, he really didn't pose much of a threat in the present time. I mean, now he's a 50 somewhat year old loser living with his mother and dealing with all her crap. And Katara and Zuko tracked him down and ambushed him when he was bringing food home. I also got somewhat of the feeling that he actually might somewhat regrets his actions.
Hama, on the other hand, was a threat to the kids and was doing things to innocent people (no, I'm not saying Kya wasn't innocent)...
Just, who do you think they meant?
Edited on 07/17/2008 9:44pm
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xdemon25
[2]Jul 17, 2008
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It was probably a typo maybe. Unless there is someone out there but in a later episode. BTW, you might want to put some kind of "possible spoilers" tab for this thread.
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suss2it
[3]Jul 17, 2008
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I'm saying Hama, because Yon-Rah isn't much of a villain.

The magazine may have been talking about Yon-Rah, but Hama is the one who taught Katara bloodbending, an act that she is disgusted by, which opened the gate for her to use it TSR.

But on the other hand Yon-Rah, had a hand in opening the gate, has caused great emotional grief for both Katara & Sokka by killing their mother. And his act still haunts them to this day.

But still Hama presented a more physical threat in present time.
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himtay

[4]Jul 18, 2008

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suss2it wrote:

But on the other hand Yon-Rah, had a hand in opening the gate, has caused great emotional grief for both Katara & Sokka by killing their mother. And his act still haunts them to this day.

^This, because he is connected to Sokka's past as well as Katara's.

btw, was it a full moon when Katara was bloodbending?

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kratosgod69
[5]Jul 18, 2008
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Yes. Or at least it was a full moon when Zuko and Katara were talking in the beginning.
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assailant_blade
[6]Jul 18, 2008
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hama was a much worse villain than yan-rah. yan-rah did some evil things when he was in the army, but that was his time. yama lived a life of evil and turned katara into a dark and evil person. you could see hama's evil in katara when she threatened to kill zuko and when she tossed aside all clear thinking to track down yan-rah.
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amdragfreak

[7]Jul 18, 2008

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assailant_blade wrote:

hama was a much worse villain than yan-rah. yan-rah did some evil things when he was in the army, but that was his time. yama lived a life of evil and turned katara into a dark and evil person. you could see hama's evil in katara when she threatened to kill zuko and when she tossed aside all clear thinking to track down yan-rah.

that's true. It may be a good argument: Who was the villain of TSR, Katara or Yon-Rah?

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assailant_blade

[8]Jul 18, 2008

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amdragfreak wrote:

assailant_blade wrote:

that's true. It may be a good argument: Who was the villain of TSR, Katara or Yon-Rah?

i'd say the villain of TSR is katara. She was the only one who didn't trust zuko and made the poor guy go through all sorts of trouble to get her trust. he understands he made a mistake. also even after she found out yan-rah was just a retired old man she wanted to go and kill him. Plus all the bad things yan-rah did were in a different episode so i think katara was the main villain here. although she did make the right choice in the end.

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speechless8582

[9]Jul 18, 2008

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assailant_blade wrote:

amdragfreak wrote:

assailant_blade wrote:

that's true. It may be a good argument: Who was the villain of TSR, Katara or Yon-Rah?

she didnt make zuko so anything. She had every right to be upet at him. Zuko was just doing whatever he could to get her to trust him because he was desperate for her to accept him.

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tomtitan
[10]Jul 18, 2008
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The magazine said the villain would have a distrubing connection to Sokka and Katara's past. It never said he'd be all-powerful. Yon-Rah was pretty pathetic actually, but back in the day he was pretty badass.
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suss2it

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tomtitan wrote:

The magazine said the villain would have a distrubing connection to Sokka and Katara's past. It never said he'd be all-powerful. Yon-Rah was pretty pathetic actually, but back in the day he was pretty badass.

Killing a defenseless woman, isn't really my description of badass.

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1MMfan
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I'm saying Hama because she was kind of like Katara except she was a villian.
And Yan Rah wasn't much of a villian. Sure he killed Kya, but that was years ago. Now he's retired living with his grumpy old mother and taking her orders. He could have killed Katara and Zuko, mostly Katara because Kya lied to Yan Rah and Katara was really the only waterbender. But he didn't He was actually regreting what he did to Kya and he even look scared of Katara.
Hama on the other hand was using her waterbending for evil and making people go missing and nearly killed Sokka and Aang.
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speechless8582

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1MMfan wrote:

I'm saying Hama because she was kind of like Katara except she was a villian.
And Yan Rah wasn't much of a villian. Sure he killed Kya, but that was years ago. Now he's retired living with his grumpy old mother and taking her orders. He could have killed Katara and Zuko, mostly Katara because Kya lied to Yan Rah and Katara was really the only waterbender. But he didn't He was actually regreting what he did to Kya and he even look scared of Katara.
Hama on the other hand was using her waterbending for evil and making people go missing and nearly killed Sokka and Aang.

Well id be scared of katara too. lol.

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suss2it

[14]Jul 18, 2008

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1MMfan wrote:

He was afraid of Katara, but I don't think it was ever shown that he regretted what he did.

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tomtitan

[15]Jul 18, 2008

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suss2it wrote:

tomtitan wrote:

Killing a defenseless woman, isn't really my description of badass.

Well he looked tough. Okay maybe badass wasn't the right word. Menacing?

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suss2it

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tomtitan wrote:

suss2it wrote:

tomtitan wrote:

Killing a defenseless woman, isn't really my description of badass.

Well he looked tough. Okay maybe badass wasn't the right word. Menacing?

Menacing works.

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LeonMorado

[17]Jul 18, 2008

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suss2it wrote:

tomtitan wrote:

suss2it wrote:

tomtitan wrote:

Killing a defenseless woman, isn't really my description of badass.

Well he looked tough. Okay maybe badass wasn't the right word. Menacing?

Menacing works.

cold-blooded ruthlessness is very badass. not approving of the guy doesn't detract from that. if anything it adds to it. he was the kind of hardcore evil that leaves you an empty pathetic shell of a human being in the end. that's pretty badass if you ask me.

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tomtitan

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LeonMorado wrote:

suss2it wrote:

tomtitan wrote:

suss2it wrote:

tomtitan wrote:

Killing a defenseless woman, isn't really my description of badass.

Well he looked tough. Okay maybe badass wasn't the right word. Menacing?

Menacing works.

No, suss2it was right. For me, badass connotates that their evil motives are at least understandable or simply the fact that they're plain evil. (unless it refers to good guys, e.g. in Boiling Rock Suki was badass)

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NejiKusa
[19]Jul 18, 2008
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the dude was like 70, admiral zhao is probobly around 45
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