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Toph vs. Katara

Who would win? (Pretend they are both in their environment)

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    UGamer08

    [61]Dec 31, 2006
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    Eh, more or less. Katara going from novice to master in a breath of an episode (without any visuals confirming the existence of the appearant "training") was primarily for the sake of the plot. Wondered when this one would be brough out.

    Edited on 12/31/2006 2:30pm
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    1AvatarLuvr

    [62]Dec 31, 2006
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    no need to even ask. Toph........Duh!!!!! "Toph, you rule!!!"
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    xlA_V_A_T_A_Rlx

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    UGamer08 wrote:

    xlA_V_A_T_A_Rlx wrote:
    confucioussayhi wrote:
    xlA_V_A_T_A_Rlx wrote:
    MagnumGunner wrote:
    In my opinion, Toph is extremely overrated. I don't hate her character, but she bugs me sometimes. Nevertheless, I agree that Toph will beat Katara, but I doubt that Katara would be defeated in a matter of seconds like some people said.
    I agree, I am so sick of that. People complain about Katara too, but they only had her "win" in 1 episode, unlike Toph who wins every fight. I really don't like where they went with Toph, like you said, I like her but she annoys me sometimes. Her winning every fight and being "the best earthbender" is stupid. She has to start losing more. I hope she meets her match in Season 3. Anyway I picked Katara because I hated Toph at the time. LOL No seriously, I believe Katara COULD win, but whatever it won't happen and I suggest to anyone who disagrees with me to keep it themselves please, because many people have already discussed this and I don't feel like being bashed for saying Toph might actually lose a fight for once. Thanks.
    How many REAL one-on-one fights has Toph been in after the Blind Bandit?
    None because they would just have her win anyway.

    Unless the plot called for otherwise, the same thing goes for Katara. As well as the other main guys.

    Yes, but they make Toph seem like the invincible one. She has never yet battled Ty Lee and Mai fully, so I doubt she would be able to do anything if Ty Lee got a punch in, just like Katara and the other main characters. (Yes, Toph trapped Ty Lee in CoD, but that doesn't count because you know that was caught off guard, plus they has no time to fight because they needed to have Aang electricuted before 9 .)
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    UGamer08

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    xlA_V_A_T_A_Rlx wrote:
    UGamer08 wrote:

    xlA_V_A_T_A_Rlx wrote:
    confucioussayhi wrote:
    xlA_V_A_T_A_Rlx wrote:
    MagnumGunner wrote:
    In my opinion, Toph is extremely overrated. I don't hate her character, but she bugs me sometimes. Nevertheless, I agree that Toph will beat Katara, but I doubt that Katara would be defeated in a matter of seconds like some people said.
    I agree, I am so sick of that. People complain about Katara too, but they only had her "win" in 1 episode, unlike Toph who wins every fight. I really don't like where they went with Toph, like you said, I like her but she annoys me sometimes. Her winning every fight and being "the best earthbender" is stupid. She has to start losing more. I hope she meets her match in Season 3. Anyway I picked Katara because I hated Toph at the time. LOL No seriously, I believe Katara COULD win, but whatever it won't happen and I suggest to anyone who disagrees with me to keep it themselves please, because many people have already discussed this and I don't feel like being bashed for saying Toph might actually lose a fight for once. Thanks.
    How many REAL one-on-one fights has Toph been in after the Blind Bandit?
    None because they would just have her win anyway.

    Unless the plot called for otherwise, the same thing goes for Katara. As well as the other main guys.

    Yes, but they make Toph seem like the invincible one. She has never yet battled Ty Lee and Mai fully, so I doubt she would be able to do anything if Ty Lee got a punch in, just like Katara and the other main characters. (Yes, Toph trapped Ty Lee in CoD, but that doesn't count because you know that was caught off guard, plus they has no time to fight because they needed to have Aang electricuted before 9 .)

    Like I've been sayin, they make them all seem invincible unless the plot called for otherwise. Like Aang getting zapped, what a twist. Eh.??

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    xlA_V_A_T_A_Rlx

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    UGamer08 wrote:
    xlA_V_A_T_A_Rlx wrote:
    UGamer08 wrote:

    xlA_V_A_T_A_Rlx wrote:
    confucioussayhi wrote:
    xlA_V_A_T_A_Rlx wrote:
    MagnumGunner wrote:
    In my opinion, Toph is extremely overrated. I don't hate her character, but she bugs me sometimes. Nevertheless, I agree that Toph will beat Katara, but I doubt that Katara would be defeated in a matter of seconds like some people said.
    I agree, I am so sick of that. People complain about Katara too, but they only had her "win" in 1 episode, unlike Toph who wins every fight. I really don't like where they went with Toph, like you said, I like her but she annoys me sometimes. Her winning every fight and being "the best earthbender" is stupid. She has to start losing more. I hope she meets her match in Season 3. Anyway I picked Katara because I hated Toph at the time. LOL No seriously, I believe Katara COULD win, but whatever it won't happen and I suggest to anyone who disagrees with me to keep it themselves please, because many people have already discussed this and I don't feel like being bashed for saying Toph might actually lose a fight for once. Thanks.
    How many REAL one-on-one fights has Toph been in after the Blind Bandit?
    None because they would just have her win anyway.

    Unless the plot called for otherwise, the same thing goes for Katara. As well as the other main guys.

    Yes, but they make Toph seem like the invincible one. She has never yet battled Ty Lee and Mai fully, so I doubt she would be able to do anything if Ty Lee got a punch in, just like Katara and the other main characters. (Yes, Toph trapped Ty Lee in CoD, but that doesn't count because you know that was caught off guard, plus they has no time to fight because they needed to have Aang electricuted before 9 .)

    Like I've been sayin, they make them all seem invincible unless the plot called for otherwise. Like Aang getting zapped, what a twist. Eh.??


    Yeh, but no one is able to even touch Toph. Katara's fallen down, Sokka's been hit, Aang too...not Toph.

    Your right though.
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    xlA_V_A_T_A_Rlx wrote:
    UGamer08 wrote:
    xlA_V_A_T_A_Rlx wrote:
    UGamer08 wrote:

    xlA_V_A_T_A_Rlx wrote:
    confucioussayhi wrote:
    xlA_V_A_T_A_Rlx wrote:
    MagnumGunner wrote:
    In my opinion, Toph is extremely overrated. I don't hate her character, but she bugs me sometimes. Nevertheless, I agree that Toph will beat Katara, but I doubt that Katara would be defeated in a matter of seconds like some people said.
    I agree, I am so sick of that. People complain about Katara too, but they only had her "win" in 1 episode, unlike Toph who wins every fight. I really don't like where they went with Toph, like you said, I like her but she annoys me sometimes. Her winning every fight and being "the best earthbender" is stupid. She has to start losing more. I hope she meets her match in Season 3. Anyway I picked Katara because I hated Toph at the time. LOL No seriously, I believe Katara COULD win, but whatever it won't happen and I suggest to anyone who disagrees with me to keep it themselves please, because many people have already discussed this and I don't feel like being bashed for saying Toph might actually lose a fight for once. Thanks.
    How many REAL one-on-one fights has Toph been in after the Blind Bandit?
    None because they would just have her win anyway.

    Unless the plot called for otherwise, the same thing goes for Katara. As well as the other main guys.

    Yes, but they make Toph seem like the invincible one. She has never yet battled Ty Lee and Mai fully, so I doubt she would be able to do anything if Ty Lee got a punch in, just like Katara and the other main characters. (Yes, Toph trapped Ty Lee in CoD, but that doesn't count because you know that was caught off guard, plus they has no time to fight because they needed to have Aang electricuted before 9 .)

    Like I've been sayin, they make them all seem invincible unless the plot called for otherwise. Like Aang getting zapped, what a twist. Eh.??


    Yeh, but no one is able to even touch Toph. Katara's fallen down, Sokka's been hit, Aang too...not Toph.

    Your right though.


    I think Toph would win. Back to the quotes, I think that nobody could touch Toph. Not even that circis freak because couldn't Toph just cover herself with rock? Like she did in Aang's training.
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    ssknight123 wrote:
    xlA_V_A_T_A_Rlx wrote:
    UGamer08 wrote:
    xlA_V_A_T_A_Rlx wrote:
    UGamer08 wrote:

    xlA_V_A_T_A_Rlx wrote:
    confucioussayhi wrote:
    xlA_V_A_T_A_Rlx wrote:
    MagnumGunner wrote:
    In my opinion, Toph is extremely overrated. I don't hate her character, but she bugs me sometimes. Nevertheless, I agree that Toph will beat Katara, but I doubt that Katara would be defeated in a matter of seconds like some people said.
    I agree, I am so sick of that. People complain about Katara too, but they only had her "win" in 1 episode, unlike Toph who wins every fight. I really don't like where they went with Toph, like you said, I like her but she annoys me sometimes. Her winning every fight and being "the best earthbender" is stupid. She has to start losing more. I hope she meets her match in Season 3. Anyway I picked Katara because I hated Toph at the time. LOL No seriously, I believe Katara COULD win, but whatever it won't happen and I suggest to anyone who disagrees with me to keep it themselves please, because many people have already discussed this and I don't feel like being bashed for saying Toph might actually lose a fight for once. Thanks.
    How many REAL one-on-one fights has Toph been in after the Blind Bandit?
    None because they would just have her win anyway.

    Unless the plot called for otherwise, the same thing goes for Katara. As well as the other main guys.

    Yes, but they make Toph seem like the invincible one. She has never yet battled Ty Lee and Mai fully, so I doubt she would be able to do anything if Ty Lee got a punch in, just like Katara and the other main characters. (Yes, Toph trapped Ty Lee in CoD, but that doesn't count because you know that was caught off guard, plus they has no time to fight because they needed to have Aang electricuted before 9 .)

    Like I've been sayin, they make them all seem invincible unless the plot called for otherwise. Like Aang getting zapped, what a twist. Eh.??


    Yeh, but no one is able to even touch Toph. Katara's fallen down, Sokka's been hit, Aang too...not Toph.

    Your right though.


    I think Toph would win. Back to the quotes, I think that nobody could touch Toph. Not even that circis freak because couldn't Toph just cover herself with rock? Like she did in Aang's training.


    So? Azula could just crack the rock with lightning, couldn't she?
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    xlA_V_A_T_A_Rlx wrote:
    ssknight123 wrote:
    xlA_V_A_T_A_Rlx wrote:
    UGamer08 wrote:
    xlA_V_A_T_A_Rlx wrote:
    UGamer08 wrote:

    xlA_V_A_T_A_Rlx wrote:
    confucioussayhi wrote:
    xlA_V_A_T_A_Rlx wrote:
    MagnumGunner wrote:
    In my opinion, Toph is extremely overrated. I don't hate her character, but she bugs me sometimes. Nevertheless, I agree that Toph will beat Katara, but I doubt that Katara would be defeated in a matter of seconds like some people said.
    I agree, I am so sick of that. People complain about Katara too, but they only had her "win" in 1 episode, unlike Toph who wins every fight. I really don't like where they went with Toph, like you said, I like her but she annoys me sometimes. Her winning every fight and being "the best earthbender" is stupid. She has to start losing more. I hope she meets her match in Season 3. Anyway I picked Katara because I hated Toph at the time. LOL No seriously, I believe Katara COULD win, but whatever it won't happen and I suggest to anyone who disagrees with me to keep it themselves please, because many people have already discussed this and I don't feel like being bashed for saying Toph might actually lose a fight for once. Thanks.
    How many REAL one-on-one fights has Toph been in after the Blind Bandit?
    None because they would just have her win anyway.

    Unless the plot called for otherwise, the same thing goes for Katara. As well as the other main guys.

    Yes, but they make Toph seem like the invincible one. She has never yet battled Ty Lee and Mai fully, so I doubt she would be able to do anything if Ty Lee got a punch in, just like Katara and the other main characters. (Yes, Toph trapped Ty Lee in CoD, but that doesn't count because you know that was caught off guard, plus they has no time to fight because they needed to have Aang electricuted before 9 .)

    Like I've been sayin, they make them all seem invincible unless the plot called for otherwise. Like Aang getting zapped, what a twist. Eh.??


    Yeh, but no one is able to even touch Toph. Katara's fallen down, Sokka's been hit, Aang too...not Toph.

    Your right though.


    I think Toph would win. Back to the quotes, I think that nobody could touch Toph. Not even that circis freak because couldn't Toph just cover herself with rock? Like she did in Aang's training.


    So? Azula could just crack the rock with lightning, couldn't she?


    You got me there.
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    Toph could win in one move. She could make Katara stuck into a hole like Sokka did in Ch.208. Then she'd be helpless.

    MWAHAHAHA!!
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    the_mental_teen wrote:
    Toph could win in one move. She could make Katara stuck into a hole like Sokka did in Ch.208. Then she'd be helpless.

    MWAHAHAHA!!


    Yeah...Toph is overrated...she wouldn't win in one move! I don't hate her or anything just that Katara would put up a fight. Think!
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    ssknight123 wrote:
    the_mental_teen wrote:
    Toph could win in one move. She could make Katara stuck into a hole like Sokka did in Ch.208. Then she'd be helpless.

    MWAHAHAHA!!


    Yeah...Toph is overrated...she wouldn't win in one move! I don't hate her or anything just that Katara would put up a fight. Think!


    Exactly my thoughts.
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    ssknight123 wrote:
    the_mental_teen wrote:
    Toph could win in one move. She could make Katara stuck into a hole like Sokka did in Ch.208. Then she'd be helpless.

    MWAHAHAHA!!


    Yeah...Toph is overrated...she wouldn't win in one move! I don't hate her or anything just that Katara would put up a fight. Think!


    She can just stomp on the ground and wipe her out like she did to "The Boulder". Then again, that wrestler was a f@g and Katara is a master Waterbender and more skilled and has seen Toph in action. That would be close, but I still think Toph would win.
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    the_mental_teen wrote:
    ssknight123 wrote:
    the_mental_teen wrote:
    Toph could win in one move. She could make Katara stuck into a hole like Sokka did in Ch.208. Then she'd be helpless.

    MWAHAHAHA!!


    Yeah...Toph is overrated...she wouldn't win in one move! I don't hate her or anything just that Katara would put up a fight. Think!


    She can just stomp on the ground and wipe her out like she did to "The Boulder". Then again, that wrestler was a f@g and Katara is a master Waterbender and more skilled and has seen Toph in action. That would be close, but I still think Toph would win.


    That's a better way to put it.
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    ssknight123 wrote:
    the_mental_teen wrote:
    ssknight123 wrote:
    the_mental_teen wrote:
    Toph could win in one move. She could make Katara stuck into a hole like Sokka did in Ch.208. Then she'd be helpless.

    MWAHAHAHA!!


    Yeah...Toph is overrated...she wouldn't win in one move! I don't hate her or anything just that Katara would put up a fight. Think!


    She can just stomp on the ground and wipe her out like she did to "The Boulder". Then again, that wrestler was a f@g and Katara is a master Waterbender and more skilled and has seen Toph in action. That would be close, but I still think Toph would win.


    That's a better way to put it.


    Yeah I think I let my favoritism get in the way for a while, lol
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    the_mental_teen wrote:
    ssknight123 wrote:
    the_mental_teen wrote:
    ssknight123 wrote:
    the_mental_teen wrote:
    Toph could win in one move. She could make Katara stuck into a hole like Sokka did in Ch.208. Then she'd be helpless.

    MWAHAHAHA!!


    Yeah...Toph is overrated...she wouldn't win in one move! I don't hate her or anything just that Katara would put up a fight. Think!


    She can just stomp on the ground and wipe her out like she did to "The Boulder". Then again, that wrestler was a f@g and Katara is a master Waterbender and more skilled and has seen Toph in action. That would be close, but I still think Toph would win.


    That's a better way to put it.


    Yeah I think I let my favoritism get in the way for a while, lol


    You did but don't worry about it that happens to me too.
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    UGamer08

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    As said before, taking a lot into consideration, I can easily see Toph swiftly making short work of Katara (also connected to the reason we haven't been presented to all that many earth vs. water fights) but I don't see the creators making her lose that easy. All in all, they need to tone it down, I mean wow.
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    My money would be on Katara. The only people Toph has fought so far are earthbenders and she has the edge on them because she can 'feel' the earth. She doesn't have that advantage over other benders. Aang easily pwned her by sending a simple airblast at her, and she couldn't see it coming due to her blindness. The same would count in a fight with Katara, she wouldn't know where the water would be coming from and wouldn't be able to defend herself. One waterwhip and boom, Toph's out.

    It also depends on the terrain of course. Toph would clearly have the advantage in a landscape filled with rocks and Katara would have the edge in a landscape with water.
    Edited on 01/01/2007 1:50pm
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    It's a good point that Toph wouldn't be able to see the water coming. But I'm not sure Toph would even give Katara the chance to get out an attack. I mean, she took down the boulder in like a split second. Well, not relaly, probably almost a whole second but still. It all really depends.
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    There's too much things we might not know that Toph or Katara can do. So isn't it really hard to say who would win?
    Edited on 01/01/2007 1:55pm
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    ??First of all, there is no way Toph and Katara would ever fight.?? As the series progressed, they'd gotten closer as friends.?? And even IF and that is a big IF they would ever fight, i doubt that they'd go at it at full strength, especially Katara being katara wouldn't have it in her to really want to hurt a friend.

    Heheh.?? The ONLY way we'd ever know who would win is when Nick would actually show them fighting in an episode.?? VERY unlikely but something to look forward to i guess.
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