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    Blazer600

    [1]Nov 3, 2006
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    Please excuse the fact that "classical mythology" generally reffers to Greek and Roman Myths, but are there anything you notice that seems to link the series to ancient myths???

    Spirit World: Obviously an afterlife.?? Also, according to Eastern Mythologies, especially Japanese, a spirit is something, especiall a planty or animal, that has reached enlightenment.??

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    tv_worm

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    Well avatar is based on a lot of asian mythologies like the word "avatar" itself comes from indian mythology and means a "form which god takes on earth". Similarly the entire rebirth thing also comes from indian mythology. Ofcourse the other asian mythology links are clear in the show.

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    MCMLXVI

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    Blazer600 wrote:
    Please excuse the fact that "classical mythology" generally reffers to Greek and Roman Myths, but are there anything you notice that seems to link the series to ancient myths?
    Jonah, played by Aang Southaire
    Large Fish, played by Walt Iceburg
    Nineveh, played by Fire Nation
    Edited on 11/03/2006 6:38pm
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    Agni is one of the forms of Shiva. The idea of using toys for spotting the new Avatar is used to find the new Dalai Lama. In Hindu mythology, gods often manifest themselves into Avatars to restore balance on earth after a period of great evil. Avatar is just chock full of mythological referances!!
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    grundy_03

    [5]Nov 27, 2006
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    wow i just realised it but the whole story reminds me of an old chineese tale "monkey" i dont remember it very well so plz correct me and add more.

    the story is about a monkey (bares great resemblance to aang)
    who is magic or something, he also has a cool staff.

    ann this stuff happend and then these other characters come along with him
    a man who has been turned into a pig like person-dumb +sarcastic (maybe sokka)

    a warrior guy- tough (toph)

    and then some other stuff happens and thers a magic fan that can blow air at mountains nd stuff, so they use that to stop a fire on the whole mountain but it just makes it bigger,
    and then all this stuff happens and heaps of other characters remind me of the ones on avatar

    anyway im really sorry this is so vague but i hope someone else can post an extended version. thanx
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    whiteforest

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    Blazer600 wrote:

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    Eyes_Only61646

    [7]Nov 28, 2006
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    whiteforest wrote:
    Blazer600 wrote:

    P.S. How do I increase my level?


    You can level up by writing reviews, contributing to the episode guide, posting blogs, and updating your profile.
    And posting here, but thats SLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWW....
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    The word "Agni" from "Agni Kai" comes from the Hindu word "Aag" which means fire. It also comes from the Hindu word "Agnipariksha" which means "fire test" or "test of fire." Reincarnation also comes from Hinduism and so does the term Avatar.

    To increase your level, post on forums but you get most points for reviews for shows.

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    bdllbo

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    grundy_03 wrote:
    wow i just realised it but the whole story reminds me of an old chineese tale "monkey" i dont remember it very well so plz correct me and add more. the story is about a monkey (bares great resemblance to aang) who is magic or something, he also has a cool staff. ann this stuff happend and then these other characters come along with him a man who has been turned into a pig like person-dumb +sarcastic (maybe sokka) a warrior guy- tough (toph) and then some other stuff happens and thers a magic fan that can blow air at mountains nd stuff, so they use that to stop a fire on the whole mountain but it just makes it bigger, and then all this stuff happens and heaps of other characters remind me of the ones on avatar anyway im really sorry this is so vague but i hope someone else can post an extended version. thanx

    There is a Chinese tale about a monkey who goes on a journey to the West through the entire countryside of China and what he learns along the way.?? I forget the major elements of it, but it is a very famous story.

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    Eyes_Only61646

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    bdllbo wrote:

    grundy_03 wrote:
    wow i just realised it but the whole story reminds me of an old chineese tale "monkey" i dont remember it very well so plz correct me and add more. the story is about a monkey (bares great resemblance to aang) who is magic or something, he also has a cool staff. ann this stuff happend and then these other characters come along with him a man who has been turned into a pig like person-dumb +sarcastic (maybe sokka) a warrior guy- tough (toph) and then some other stuff happens and thers a magic fan that can blow air at mountains nd stuff, so they use that to stop a fire on the whole mountain but it just makes it bigger, and then all this stuff happens and heaps of other characters remind me of the ones on avatar anyway im really sorry this is so vague but i hope someone else can post an extended version. thanx

    There is a Chinese tale about a monkey who goes on a journey to the West through the entire countryside of China and what he learns along the way.?? I forget the major elements of it, but it is a very famous story.

    O_o I remember one about a mean monkey who wanted to rule the world, but this doesn't sound like it...
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    grundy_03

    [11]Nov 28, 2006
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    yep its called monkey or journey to west

    heres some links you should watch or read it sometime ive seen it around at heaps of stores

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journey_to_west
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_%28book%29
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    grundy_03

    [12]Nov 28, 2006
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    here this link has a really good pic and it looks really really similar to aang

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Wukong

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    grundy_03

    [13]Nov 28, 2006
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    heres a list of all the things that the "monkey" and "journey to west" have been copied from tnx

    Sun Wukong in modern media.
    Monkey Monkey, a character in the webcomic Impy and Aevyis based Sun Wukong. Some of the simularities come from Monkey's appearance, his claims that he is king of Fruit and Power Pellot Mountain (a parody on Sun Wukong's homeland), outfit, and the wand he casts magic from is based on Sun Wukong's staff. His staff, the Monkey King Bar is a rare weapon in the online RPG, Phantasy Star Online. In the video game and multiseries Pokemon Diamond and Pearl, the Pokemon creatures Hikozaru, Moukazaru, and mainly Goukazaru are based on Sun Wu-kong. In the manga Demons of Shanghai by Hiromu Arakawa. Sun Wu-kong is causing havoc in a tourist attraction called the "Pearl of the East" in the near future of Shanghai, while looking for his Ru-Yi Staff (which is being used to hold up a ceiling). Son Gok??, the central character in the Japanese manga Dragon Ball/Dragon Ball Z and anime Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Z, and Dragon Ball GT, is largely based on Sun Wukong. "Son Gok??" is also the Japanese pronunciation of the original character's name and is used in the Japanese translations of the original story. Some of the more direct influences include Goku's Nyoi Bou with a size-changing ability reminiscent of Monkey King's cudgel, Goku's monkey tail, the Flying Nimbus which is representative of Sun Wukong's cloud traveling ability, and the chant Bulma uses to bring Oolong under control, not unlike the effect provided by Sun Wukong's constrictive headgear. In Episode 37 of dragonballZ, the hospital in which the defenders of earth recover is Wukong Hospital (the U is obstructed by a highway to make it more subtle). The character Son Gok?? in the manga Gensomaden Saiyuki, is partially based on Sun Wukong. The Monkey King played a role in the animated and manga series Naruto, as the summon Enkoo: Enma. Mushra, a character from the anime Shinzo bears many similarities to Sun Wukong. "The Ape" by Milo Manara retells the story of the Monkey King with humor, sexy artwork and political overtones. It ran for several months in issues of Heavy Metal, in the early 80's. Cogo, a character from the 80??s anime Starzinger, is partly based on Sun Wukong. Uproar in Heaven or The Monkey King, a Chinese animated film released in 1965, was based on the story of Sun Wukong. The Monkey King has made an appearance on two episodes of the Jackie Chan Adventures as Jacky Chan's foe. Sun Wukong appears as the Monkey King in the 1983 movie, Big Bird in China. He helps Big Bird and Little Xiao Foo on their way to find Feng Huang, the phoenix. The Xbox game Kung Fu Chaos, features a playable character called Monkey, who is referred to as a god, and uses a staff as his main weapon. Sun Wukong is one of Chinese deities that can be summoned for assistance in the city building game Emperor: Rise of the Middle Kingdom, published by Sierra. The Playstation 2 role-playing game Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne features Wu Kong as a playable character. Sun Wukong's weapon is shown as the Monkey King Bar or MKB in a Warcraft 3 custom map called Defense of the Ancients. It is one of the most powerful weapons in the game. In Halo 2, the BR55 Rifle has the "Monkey King" written on the side in Chinese. In the videogame series Marvel Vs Capcom, a female monkey by the name of Sonson was based on Sun Wukong. Her moves are based on many aspect of Sun Wukong such as his expandable staff, self multiplication, use of peaches as weapons as well as changing into a giant ape. The Microsoft Office XP Multilingual Pack provides a version of the Monkey King as one of its Office Assistants. Sun Wukong makes an appearance in Mark Salzman's The Laughing Sutra, a modern retelling of Journey to the West. Sun Wukong was the inspiration for the trickster Monkey character in Laurence Yep's Dragon of the Lost Sea novels Sun Wukong has been an important reference point for three major American novels in the past few decades: Griever: An American Monkey King in China by Gerald Vizenor, Tripmaster Monkey: His Fake Book by Maxine Hong Kingston, and Monkey King by Patricia Chao. None of the novels are retellings of the Monkey/Journey story, but instead use the characters from the Chinese tradition to comment on both American and Chinese culture. A variation on the story of Sun Wukong and the Buddha is told in the final issue of the Vertigo comics series Lucifer written by Mike Carey Sun Wukong appears in the OVA of Read or Die as "Genjo Sanzo" In Soul Calibur, Kilik's costumes resembles that of Sun Wukong. Kilik's legendary weapon, the Jingu Staff, is also the weapon that Sun Wukong wielded. The Monkey King's reincarnation is the main character in A Chinese Odyssey(1994) by Stephen Chow which is a film in two parts. In Gosei Sentai Dairanger and the 2nd season of Mighty Morphin Power Rangers, RyuuSeiOu/Dragon Thunderzord in the Robot form looks like Sun Wukong. A version of the Monkey King's struggle with the King of Heaven is one thread in Gene Luen Yang's graphic novel "American Born Chinese," which was short-listed for the 2006 National Book Award.
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    Eyes_Only61646

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    grundy_03 wrote:
    heres a list of all the things that the "monkey" and "journey to west" have been copied from tnx

    Sun Wukong in modern media.
    Monkey Monkey, a character in the webcomic Impy and Aevyis based Sun Wukong. Some of the simularities come from Monkey's appearance, his claims that he is king of Fruit and Power Pellot Mountain (a parody on Sun Wukong's homeland), outfit, and the wand he casts magic from is based on Sun Wukong's staff. His staff, the Monkey King Bar is a rare weapon in the online RPG, Phantasy Star Online. In the video game and multiseries Pokemon Diamond and Pearl, the Pokemon creatures Hikozaru, Moukazaru, and mainly Goukazaru are based on Sun Wu-kong. In the manga Demons of Shanghai by Hiromu Arakawa. Sun Wu-kong is causing havoc in a tourist attraction called the "Pearl of the East" in the near future of Shanghai, while looking for his Ru-Yi Staff (which is being used to hold up a ceiling). Son Gok??, the central character in the Japanese manga Dragon Ball/Dragon Ball Z and anime Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Z, and Dragon Ball GT, is largely based on Sun Wukong. "Son Gok??" is also the Japanese pronunciation of the original character's name and is used in the Japanese translations of the original story. Some of the more direct influences include Goku's Nyoi Bou with a size-changing ability reminiscent of Monkey King's cudgel, Goku's monkey tail, the Flying Nimbus which is representative of Sun Wukong's cloud traveling ability, and the chant Bulma uses to bring Oolong under control, not unlike the effect provided by Sun Wukong's constrictive headgear. In Episode 37 of dragonballZ, the hospital in which the defenders of earth recover is Wukong Hospital (the U is obstructed by a highway to make it more subtle). The character Son Gok?? in the manga Gensomaden Saiyuki, is partially based on Sun Wukong. The Monkey King played a role in the animated and manga series Naruto, as the summon Enkoo: Enma. Mushra, a character from the anime Shinzo bears many similarities to Sun Wukong. "The Ape" by Milo Manara retells the story of the Monkey King with humor, sexy artwork and political overtones. It ran for several months in issues of Heavy Metal, in the early 80's. Cogo, a character from the 80??s anime Starzinger, is partly based on Sun Wukong. Uproar in Heaven or The Monkey King, a Chinese animated film released in 1965, was based on the story of Sun Wukong. The Monkey King has made an appearance on two episodes of the Jackie Chan Adventures as Jacky Chan's foe. Sun Wukong appears as the Monkey King in the 1983 movie, Big Bird in China. He helps Big Bird and Little Xiao Foo on their way to find Feng Huang, the phoenix. The Xbox game Kung Fu Chaos, features a playable character called Monkey, who is referred to as a god, and uses a staff as his main weapon. Sun Wukong is one of Chinese deities that can be summoned for assistance in the city building game Emperor: Rise of the Middle Kingdom, published by Sierra. The Playstation 2 role-playing game Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne features Wu Kong as a playable character. Sun Wukong's weapon is shown as the Monkey King Bar or MKB in a Warcraft 3 custom map called Defense of the Ancients. It is one of the most powerful weapons in the game. In Halo 2, the BR55 Rifle has the "Monkey King" written on the side in Chinese. In the videogame series Marvel Vs Capcom, a female monkey by the name of Sonson was based on Sun Wukong. Her moves are based on many aspect of Sun Wukong such as his expandable staff, self multiplication, use of peaches as weapons as well as changing into a giant ape. The Microsoft Office XP Multilingual Pack provides a version of the Monkey King as one of its Office Assistants. Sun Wukong makes an appearance in Mark Salzman's The Laughing Sutra, a modern retelling of Journey to the West. Sun Wukong was the inspiration for the trickster Monkey character in Laurence Yep's Dragon of the Lost Sea novels Sun Wukong has been an important reference point for three major American novels in the past few decades: Griever: An American Monkey King in China by Gerald Vizenor, Tripmaster Monkey: His Fake Book by Maxine Hong Kingston, and Monkey King by Patricia Chao. None of the novels are retellings of the Monkey/Journey story, but instead use the characters from the Chinese tradition to comment on both American and Chinese culture. A variation on the story of Sun Wukong and the Buddha is told in the final issue of the Vertigo comics series Lucifer written by Mike Carey Sun Wukong appears in the OVA of Read or Die as "Genjo Sanzo" In Soul Calibur, Kilik's costumes resembles that of Sun Wukong. Kilik's legendary weapon, the Jingu Staff, is also the weapon that Sun Wukong wielded. The Monkey King's reincarnation is the main character in A Chinese Odyssey(1994) by Stephen Chow which is a film in two parts. In Gosei Sentai Dairanger and the 2nd season of Mighty Morphin Power Rangers, RyuuSeiOu/Dragon Thunderzord in the Robot form looks like Sun Wukong. A version of the Monkey King's struggle with the King of Heaven is one thread in Gene Luen Yang's graphic novel "American Born Chinese," which was short-listed for the 2006 National Book Award.
    ....Anybody actually gonna READ that??
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    grundy_03

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    true lol what was i thinking
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    **Votes for subtitles**

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