| Valtiel930 wrote: |
| as other's have stated, it's fictional television show. |
That doesn't mean we can't talk about stuff like this. Try to be open minded, people.
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| Valtiel930 wrote: |
| as other's have stated, it's fictional television show. |
That doesn't mean we can't talk about stuff like this. Try to be open minded, people.
| fabianscorpio wrote: |
| A waterbender is able to manipulate the hydrogen and oxygen atoms in water. However, unlike the airbender, the waterbender is only able to manipulate these two elements when the two elements are in the complex form of H2O. Like all elemental benders, the waterbender has the ability to excite or stabilize the individual atoms electrons, thus either creating a gas or a solid. (steam and ice for the waterbender) If we assume that the waterbender can control other 'natural' liquid elements, then mercury could be the waterbenders best friend. |
This is a good theory and I often think about stuff like this too. However, there are a few logic flaws that I'd like to point out:
1. You said that "unlike the airbender, the waterbender is only able to manipulate these two elements when the two elements are in the complex form of H2O", but really it is the opposite. Remember in season 3, episode 8 when Hamma taught Katara that "you can pull water out of thin air". To do that, waterbenders have to be able to manipulate oxygen and hydrogen and combine them into molecule form, so it follows that waterbenders can manipulate the actual atoms, not just the molecule. Airbenders, on the other hand, can't seem to manipulate the elements in the air individually. There is no evidence currently in the show to prove my airbender theory right or wrong.
2. Mercury is a periodic element, just like hydrogen and oxygen. Waterbenders can manipulate H and O, but mercury doesn't have either of them. Mercury is essentially a metal, and just because it takes liquid form at room temperature doesn't mean it contains water. So actually, since it's a metal, Toph would be able to bend it. Not waterbenders though.
As long as this post is already huge, I might as well present a theory of my own. I think (assuming bending was taken scientifically and not spiritually) waterbenders would be able to become weak airbenders, and vice versa:
Waterbenders bend oxygen and hydrogen.
Airbenders bend carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, and nitrogen (air elements).
They can bend each others elements, so they should be able to (barely) manipulate both water and air.
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I might not know what they're talking about, but it looks cool.| foxhole7 wrote: | ||
You said that "unlike the airbender, the waterbender is only able to manipulate these two elements when the two elements are in the complex form of H2O", but really it is the opposite. Remember in season 3, episode 8 when Hamma taught Katara that "you can pull water out of thin air". To do that, waterbenders have to be able to manipulate oxygen and hydrogen and combine them into molecule form, so it follows that waterbenders can manipulate the actual atoms, not just the molecule. Airbenders, on the other hand, can't seem to manipulate the elements in the air individually. There is no evidence currently in the show to prove my airbender theory right or wrong. Waterbenders bend oxygen and hydrogen. |
I don't agree with this. I don't think that waterbenders can actually create water. If you check, about 1% of the air is actually water vapour and I think they just condense that instead of actually making it. If they could make water, waterbenders could get a huge amount of water from the air. But instead they can only use 1%. That's why waterbenders can't become airbenders. Since they can only manipulate H2O in it's full form.
Nitrogen78.0842%Oxygen20.9463%Argon0.93422%Carbon dioxide0.03811%Water vaporabout 1%Other0.002%
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| avataraang4 wrote: |
| i mean like something frozen which would have bits of ice on it eg frozen rock |
That would be just like Tophs metalbending since there's still traces of earth in metal and she bends these traces. I bet that could work as long as the bits of ice reamined in the rock. Although I don't think that they could as well as Toph since there wouldn't be as many traces as earth through metal.
I also just explained why waterbenders can only bend H2O, not hydrogen or oxygen, so I don't think they would be able to manupilate any other liquid apart from water. I don't think there is actually an example of them bending anything apart from water.
And by the way, could several master earh benders be able to bend coal into diamonds? Since two normal earthbenders could bend coal into rock. I think it would be possible. They could make a killing if it was!
| avataraang4 wrote: |
| i mean like something frozen which would have bits of ice on it eg frozen rock |
| Absarroth wrote: | ||||
I don't agree with this. I don't think that waterbenders can actually create water. If you check, about 1% of the air is actually water vapour and I think they just condense that instead of actually making it. If they could make water, waterbenders could get a huge amount of water from the air. But instead they can only use 1%. That's why waterbenders can't become airbenders. Since they can only manipulate H2O in it's full form. Nitrogen78.0842%Oxygen20.9463%Argon0.93422%Carbon dioxide0.03811%Water vaporabout 1%Other0.002% Combining |
*eyes widen* Of COURSE!! THEY BEND AIR MOISTURE!!! I NEVER THOUGHT OF THAT!!! This isn't sarcasm, thanks for pointing that out.
| fabianscorpio wrote: |
| I read the forum this morning and did not have time to reply. What I wanted to say, Absarroth said it for me, "1% of the air is actually water vapour and I think they just condense that instead of actually making it." He would be correct in saying this. Of course, this entire topic is fictional. As far as waterbenders 'bending' liquid mercury, I said this 'assuming' that they may be able to ONLY because mercury is in liquid form at room temeratures. |
Okay, yeah, I agree about the water vapor thing, but realize that you also said in your origional post:
| fabianscorpio wrote: |
| A waterbender is able to manipulate the hydrogen and oxygen atoms in water. |
You accidentally contradicted yourself by implying that they could bend the elements individually. And, as I said yesterday, mercury is a liquid at room temperature but there are still no H2O molecules in it. In fact, mercury contains no Hydrogen or Oxygen at all.
