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the plan to invade the fire nation

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    avaxmen

    [1]Dec 2, 2006
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    when Ty-lee attacked katara when she was going to tell the earth king about Zuko, Katar was holding the scroll with all the plans for the invasion of the FN. did azula see these plans?
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    Miroku_of_Nite1

    [2]Dec 2, 2006
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    The plans don't matter anymore since all the head generals are under control.
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    phoenixfirework

    [3]Dec 2, 2006
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    Besides, Azula already knows about the invasion plan. Anyways, with Ba Sing Se under FN control, there is no army to invade the FN. Maybe the WT warriors could do something. General Fong is still free (crazy but he isn't imprisoned). He has soldiers under his control and he wanted to invade the FN anyway.
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    nyfan

    [4]Dec 2, 2006
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    Give Aang time to recover. As soon as he is better, bust out Iroh, but out those generals, and let's go to the Fire Nation and take them down in their own territory.

    I have the Toph attitude, of just bring it.

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    edmasterchaos

    [5]Dec 2, 2006
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    ok, i think they dont need plans, just go with every single person that has an army, tell them to invade in solar eclipse, while evoiding FN and when the day comes, kill everything that moves and uses red
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    phoenixfirework

    [6]Dec 2, 2006
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    nyfan wrote:

    Give Aang time to recover. As soon as he is better, bust out Iroh, but out those generals, and let's go to the Fire Nation and take them down in their own territory.

    I have the Toph attitude, of just bring it.

    It won't be so easy. The generals and Iroh are under lock and key by the Dai Lee. Azula will warn the FN about the solar eclipse. The FN will prepare. The key to the invasion was that the Fn would be unaware of the solar eclipse's power over Firebending. But they know now. So even if the gaang managed to scrape together enough forces to invade the FN, the FN wil be prepared. And they have the most advanced technology in the world and ships that won't burn down.
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    Nalesnik

    [7]Dec 2, 2006
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    It seems that, that plan blew up in their faces. I doubt the Gaang will be able to put together an army by themselves. They do have the Earth King but.....I don't see him as being too helpful. He's so clueless.
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    nyfan

    [8]Dec 2, 2006
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    I am not sure about those generals, but Iroh??can out smart the Dai Lee guards, and bust out. Like I said before, the guards on this show are idiots. Azula can't be everywhere at once.??

    I hope the gang does not mop around to much, and give up. Take the FN down.

    What time of year is it right now?

    Edited on 12/02/2006 1:56pm
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    Miroku_of_Nite1

    [9]Dec 2, 2006
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    edmasterchaos wrote:
    ok, i think they dont need plans, just go with every single person that has an army, tell them to invade in solar eclipse, while evoiding FN and when the day comes, kill everything that moves and uses red


    What Azula did is what is called in military terms. A "decapitation strike" With the generals and head administrators taken out the army wont be able to strike back due to lack of orders from above, or guidance. Now Azula wont tell everyone in Ba Sing Se "You are now under Fire Nation control." If she did that everyone would go nuts. As far as the public knows the city is still safe. Now the Fire Nation can either keep Ba Sing Se like how it is, and slowly in doctorate the youth with ideas that the Fire Nation is their friends, and over the span of say 30 years have the city going for the Fire Nation, even though they been under control for years. Or just have a army show up and walk into the city and say "You are under control. Resist and you will be executed." Sure you would have freedom fighters, but most people wont fight back if they are taken care of/made examples of insubordination.
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    thirteenparrots

    [10]Dec 2, 2006
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    ??????????Here's a thought, Azula uses the plans herself. Azula is very much??an opportunist and manipulator. Her taking control of, first??the??Dai Lai, then through them Ba Sing Se, proves these points. In fact, how she got into Ba Sing Se in the first place proves how she uses opportunity when it arises. When she encountered the Kyoshi warriors, Azula didn't know who they were and attacked them solely for being friends of the Avatar. Obviously, since the defeat took place off screen, once she had beaten the??Kyoshi warriors and realized who they were, Azula took the opportunity presented to her and impersonated the Kyoshi warriors to enter the city.

    ???????? Now, when she heard about the solar eclipse she did a very good of not letting surprise really show on her face or the tone of her voice. Then when the Earth King mentioned the invasion, Azula got a one of those, I just thought of something grand, type of smiles, and says, "....my what a brilliant idea." (May not??be exact wording but close.) While she covets the Fire Lord's position, Ba Sing Se' throne and the power behind it is already hers. Now, only a few people know that a Fire Nation Princess is in charge, and no one in the Fire Nation knows about this or the eclipse. As Miroku_of_Nite1 pointed out, due to the type of coup that it was the general populous probably wouldn't know the difference. While Azula would have the options that Miroku_of_Nite1 mentioned, she could force the five head generals to issue orders to the regular army??to proceed to invade the Fire Nation, this would help to make it look even more like nothing was different, and thus less likely of resistance forming against her. In addition, this gives Azula several interesting possibilities.

    ???????? She warns her father, and has a trap laid for the Earth Kingdom army and completely wipeout the soldiers most likely to fight back if they knew she was in charge.

    ???????? She not warn her father or the Fire Nation, and try to take total control of both the Fire Nation and the Earth Kingdom. If successful, She is the most power Fire Lord ever and in control of two of the three remaining nations in the world. If is an utter failure, Azula has even more options; use the cities defences to her own good, and being a much better planner than the generals, the Earth King, or Long Feng could keep out the Fire Nation troops for as long as she wants, open the city for the Fire Nation troops acting like she just did the coup and/or turn over her brother and uncle as if they were the ones to lead the Earth Kingdom's??invasion.

    ???????? I am sure there are even more options but, whatever Azula has in mind for the invasion??plans??and the date of the solar eclipse, you can be sure that it will be to her advantage, everyone else will be expendable pawns, and she will be prepared in a manner as such so, she can't be taken down during the day of black sun.

    ???????? Well, those are??just something than crossed my mind. Can't wait until season 3 to see if I came close to any of it.

    Take care,

    Thirteenparrots

    The parrots play statigo like Momo does, just simply not all the pieces over.

    Edited on 12/02/2006 10:32pm
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