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    Proximity42

    [1]Jul 22, 2008
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    I have now watched the series ifnale about 6 times now and I gotta say I am really let down. I think the first time I watched it I was pumped simply for the fact that I haven't seen any new episodes since TFM.

    The invasion was at least a two part episode all in itself and I feel that watching Azula vs Zuko, Aang vs Ozai, and OWL vs Fire Nation in Ba sing se all in the same episodes was kinda a bad idea.

    Those fights could have warrented they're own episode each (and should have) but for osme reason they all got jumbled in together and we barely saw what happened in Ba Sing Se. Not to mention that Zuko vs Azula was maybe 5 minutes at best.

    Does anyone know the actual reason why Avatar went on such a huge hiatus in the middle of the Third Season? It was bad enough they made us wait forever for the start of Season Three, but it didn't make sense to go on almost an entire year break right before the finale.

    I also am starting to think they should have made Zuko join up at the end of Season 2 but still lose the fight somehow. They wasted so many crucial episodes near the end just so the Gang could have adventurs with Zuko as to not make it look like they just threw him over in the last stretch (which they ended up doing).

    Maybe i'm just upset about the fact that theres so much Questions to still be asked, and that the finale was super rushed. But hopefully at the COmic-Con Avatar fans will get osme great news about any upcoming projects that might be announced.

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    tomtitan

    [2]Jul 22, 2008
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    The hiatus was in no way the result of the show. The Nickelodeon executives are completely to blame for that.

    And how could the fights last LONGER? The finale's 92 minutes as it is.
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    DrAvatar

    [3]Jul 22, 2008
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    I thought they did a good job balancing the three main fights. I wish we could have seen more of the Ba Sing Se battle but that would have rushed things even more. I also think an episode for each fight would be a little extensive.
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    Proximity42

    [4]Jul 22, 2008
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    he invasion was an entire 2 parter. They could have made two episodes alone about OWL vs Ba sing Se. My point was, putting three of the biggest fights of the series all into the same episode kinda made them not so epic for me.

    Even if they did one at a time instead of showing bits of pieces of all three at a time maybe that would have amde it seem better. Maybe i'm just not explaining myself all that well.

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    Teranef

    [5]Jul 22, 2008
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    tomtitan wrote:
    The hiatus was in no way the result of the show. The Nickelodeon executives are completely to blame for that. And how could the fights last LONGER? The finale's 92 minutes as it is.
    The fights could've began sooner
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    CorpseVendor

    [6]Jul 22, 2008
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    For a kids show, I'd say it ended beautifuly
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    tomtitan

    [7]Jul 22, 2008
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    Teranef wrote:
    tomtitan wrote:
    The hiatus was in no way the result of the show. The Nickelodeon executives are completely to blame for that. And how could the fights last LONGER? The finale's 92 minutes as it is.
    The fights could've began sooner
    Right, that's a good idea. Just replace the plot with fight scenes. Yeah, that always makes for good movies.
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    DrAvatar

    [8]Jul 22, 2008
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    Teranef wrote:
    tomtitan wrote:
    The hiatus was in no way the result of the show. The Nickelodeon executives are completely to blame for that. And how could the fights last LONGER? The finale's 92 minutes as it is.
    The fights could've began sooner
    Then fans would complain that there wasn't enough plot. I think spitting the action/plot 50/50 was the best way to do it.
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    Proximity42

    [9]Jul 22, 2008
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    didn't mean that either. I guess in gneral I am wishing they redid the entire Third Season with Zuko already joined the GAang to save time. That way they could have done away with TFEP (We all already know what happened so who cares) and other episodes that weren't needed and save time for the really important stuff.

    Having all three of those epic fights all happening similtaniously made them seem not as great as they could have been IMO.

    I guess the name of this thread is a little harsh for what i'm trying to say, but I invested some serious time into this series and I guess I was expecting more.

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    Teranef

    [10]Jul 22, 2008
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    tomtitan wrote:
    Teranef wrote:
    tomtitan wrote:
    The hiatus was in no way the result of the show. The Nickelodeon executives are completely to blame for that. And how could the fights last LONGER? The finale's 92 minutes as it is.
    The fights could've began sooner
    Right, that's a good idea. Just replace the plot with fight scenes. Yeah, that always makes for good movies.
    No, Just move the plot into the space that EIP took up. An extra 23 minutes would've helped

    Anyway, I'm not saying it would've been a good idea or that it should've been done . . . just saying the fights COULD'VE lasted longer

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    tomtitan

    [11]Jul 22, 2008
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    Teranef wrote:

    tomtitan wrote:
    Teranef wrote:
    tomtitan wrote:
    The hiatus was in no way the result of the show. The Nickelodeon executives are completely to blame for that. And how could the fights last LONGER? The finale's 92 minutes as it is.
    The fights could've began sooner
    Right, that's a good idea. Just replace the plot with fight scenes. Yeah, that always makes for good movies.
    No, Just move the plot into the space that EIP took up. An extra 23 minutes would've helped

    Anyway, I'm not saying it would've been a good idea or that it should've been done . . . just saying the fights COULD'VE lasted longer

    Wow, a FIVE part finale. Wouldn't that be taking it a bit TOO far?
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    christianrob90

    [12]Jul 22, 2008
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    The Finale was good but there were plenty of things about season 3 I didn't like either.

    1. They should have shown where Zuko's mom was

    2. They should have shown what happened to Azula

    3. Why was the royal artifact in episode 306 never worn?

    4. Iroh's return wasn't as great as it should have been and he didn't look buff anymore

    5. They rushed the second half of the season while putting fillers in the first half such as the Painted Lady.

    6. Bloodbending was a waste as it was only barely used again in the Southern Raiders

    7. Not much was known about Combustion Man such as why did he keep attacking when Zuko who hired him told him to stop.

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    Teranef

    [13]Jul 22, 2008
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    tomtitan wrote:
    Teranef wrote:

    tomtitan wrote:
    Teranef wrote:
    tomtitan wrote:
    The hiatus was in no way the result of the show. The Nickelodeon executives are completely to blame for that. And how could the fights last LONGER? The finale's 92 minutes as it is.
    The fights could've began sooner
    Right, that's a good idea. Just replace the plot with fight scenes. Yeah, that always makes for good movies.
    No, Just move the plot into the space that EIP took up. An extra 23 minutes would've helped

    Anyway, I'm not saying it would've been a good idea or that it should've been done . . . just saying the fights COULD'VE lasted longer

    Wow, a FIVE part finale. Wouldn't that be taking it a bit TOO far?
    Who said anything about the five part finale? The plot of The Phoenix King would've just been moved to EIP's slot as a build up and cliff-hanger to the finale, kinda like The Earth King was to the season 2 finale.
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    Pablo_808

    [14]Jul 22, 2008
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    christianrob90 wrote:

    7. Not much was known about Combustion Man such as why did he keep attacking when Zuko who hired him told him to stop.

    Cause CM is just evil that way. I guess he's really into his job title, and he always gets his guy/guys(In this case the Gaang)

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    Flamestormstar

    [15]Jul 22, 2008
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    christianrob90 wrote:

    The Finale was good but there were plenty of things about season 3 I didn't like either.

    1. They should have shown where Zuko's mom was

    2. They should have shown what happened to Azula

    3. Why was the royal artifact in episode 306 never worn?

    4. Iroh's return wasn't as great as it should have been and he didn't look buff anymore

    5. They rushed the second half of the season while putting fillers in the first half such as the Painted Lady.

    6. Bloodbending was a waste as it was only barely used again in the Southern Raiders

    7. Not much was known about Combustion Man such as why did he keep attacking when Zuko who hired him told him to stop.

    why do you think, it was probably an artifact in the firenation, and irohs muscles were under his robe lol, no it was just a twist blood bending was just for the fun of it and for the revenge part of the southern raiders it wasnt ussd much because she didnt want that power remember, and lastly combustion man attacked because they had made himself blow himself up because of the rock remember lol so he didnt care about the money it was about revenge. The questions i didnt answer are annoying ones i cant answer i still agree with you on the fact that they should clear all of this up
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    DrAvatar

    [16]Jul 22, 2008
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    christianrob90 wrote:

    The Finale was good but there were plenty of things about season 3 I didn't like either.

    1. They should have shown where Zuko's mom was

    2. They should have shown what happened to Azula

    3. Why was the royal artifact in episode 306 never worn?

    4. Iroh's return wasn't as great as it should have been and he didn't look buff anymore

    5. They rushed the second half of the season while putting fillers in the first half such as the Painted Lady.

    6. Bloodbending was a waste as it was only barely used again in the Southern Raiders

    7. Not much was known about Combustion Man such as why did he keep attacking when Zuko who hired him told him to stop.
    1. As much as I like Ursa, the fact of the matter remains she was only in one episode and it was a flashback. There were more prominent and important parts of the plot that needed to be addressed first.

    2. There is no way they could have killed Azula if they didn't kill Ozai off. They could have shown her in prison but it wouldn't accomplish anything with the plot.

    3. Zuko should have worn it while he had the chance. I'm not going to get upset over a hat though.

    4. I would have liked to seen Iroh buff too but the scene with Zuko was more important to me.

    5. I cant really argue against that.

    6. Bloodbending was mainly put in for fanservice so we're lucky we got to see it at all. Plus it can only be used during a full moon and Katara doesn't like to use it. I prefer to see Katara use straight up waterbending, it proves how good of a bender she is.

    7. Combustion Man was just a generic villain. While his power was cool, I was personally disappointed with him overall.

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    andrep007

    [17]Jul 22, 2008
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    Teranef wrote:
    tomtitan wrote:
    Teranef wrote:

    tomtitan wrote:
    Teranef wrote:
    tomtitan wrote:
    The hiatus was in no way the result of the show. The Nickelodeon executives are completely to blame for that. And how could the fights last LONGER? The finale's 92 minutes as it is.
    The fights could've began sooner
    Right, that's a good idea. Just replace the plot with fight scenes. Yeah, that always makes for good movies.
    No, Just move the plot into the space that EIP took up. An extra 23 minutes would've helped

    Anyway, I'm not saying it would've been a good idea or that it should've been done . . . just saying the fights COULD'VE lasted longer

    Wow, a FIVE part finale. Wouldn't that be taking it a bit TOO far?
    Who said anything about the five part finale? The plot of The Phoenix King would've just been moved to EIP's slot as a build up and cliff-hanger to the finale, kinda like The Earth King was to the season 2 finale.

    come on why would we need longer fights, i mean there were great as it is, by the time ang finalized his fight i was almost getting tired of him chasing the FL around (but i must admit i loved seeing the FL run away like a scared pig), azula/zuko fight also no need to make it bigger, it sure was awesome seeing those to fight but not much could still happen there... Well the BSS fight IMO wasn't really that important afterall aang was already taking take of the FL and zuko making sure to become the new one so i guess there wasn't much need to focus on it

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    Eman5805

    [18]Jul 22, 2008
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    christianrob90 wrote:

    The Finale was good but there were plenty of things about season 3 I didn't like either.

    1. They should have shown where Zuko's mom was

    I think they're planning a one hour spinoff special of some sort or maybe some new tie in. Either way, it's only important to the character arc of Zuko. As a whole, Zuko's arc was about 90% completed. I can live with that.

    2. They should have shown what happened to Azula

    Why? It's obvious she's in jail too. Really need to see a quick shot of her sitting in a prison cell with foam at the mouth?

    3. Why was the royal artifact in episode 306 never worn?

    Iroh had it pretty much the whole time, and Zuko had basically renounced his FN name when he switched sides. It's worn by the crown prince of the Fire Nation. Zuko was a traitor. Wouldn't be honorable to wear it. And we all know about Zuko's infallable honor.

    4. Iroh's return wasn't as great as it should have been and he didn't look buff anymore

    Of course he didn't, he never took his clothes off, and why would he? And his return wasn't for the awesome factor, it was closure with Zuko. He buffed up so he could break himself out of prison and retake Ba Sing Se.

    5. They rushed the second half of the season while putting fillers in the first half such as the Painted Lady.

    Fillers are a part of the show. Every episode can't be about moving the plot forward. No continual adventure show in history is ever like that. About rushing, that's an opinion thing. Don't care one way or the other about that.

    6. Bloodbending was a waste as it was only barely used again in the Southern Raiders

    You're right, a technique that can only be used once a month needs to get used in more than two episodes in a season that takes place in about two months. Not to mention that Katara only used that technique out of angry, bloodlust, and for revenge. She never wanted that power to begin with.

    7. Not much was known about Combustion Man such as why did he keep attacking when Zuko who hired him told him to stop.

    That much is obvious. It became personal. Aang and co. kept on eluding and embarrasing him. He's supposed to be and elite assassin, his pride and reputation were bruised. So, he wanted Aang dead for himself, not some reward. As for more about him, outside of the Nick.com Avatar site, where are you gonna get the info from? Zuko just feeling chatty? CM himself sure isn't about to share his lifestory with anyone.
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    tvlover1233

    [19]Jul 22, 2008
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    i liked the way it end but there's a few questions that i wanted to know

    1. how did iroh go to the spirit world?

    2. wheres Ursa

    3. Who's going to teach the next avatar Airbending

    4. did aang and katara get married/ did they have airbending kids?

    i dont really care about azula cause i know that katara and zuko didn't kill her i know shes probably in prison

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    Teranef

    [20]Jul 22, 2008
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    tomtitan wrote:
    Teranef wrote:
    tomtitan wrote:
    The hiatus was in no way the result of the show. The Nickelodeon executives are completely to blame for that. And how could the fights last LONGER? The finale's 92 minutes as it is.
    The fights could've began sooner
    Right, that's a good idea. Just replace the plot with fight scenes. Yeah, that always makes for good movies.
    Actually, when I originally said that, I was referring to Aang Vs. Ozai with the thought that they should've began fighting upon confronting each other instead of all that cat and mouse running around and chasing
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