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Survey Says: Avatar Staying on Nick?

Would you want to keep Avatar on Nick, or move it to another network?

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    Miroku_of_Nite1

    [41]Dec 12, 2006
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    Cartoon Network is ran by Turner Broadcasting/Time Warner Inc, and Nick is ran by Viacom. Viacom tends to keep all of their stuff to them selves. So we will never see Avatar on Cartoon Network unless Nick goes under and Time Warner buys them out. Anyway I don't think the format for Avatar should be changed to a more mature setting(Say the show ends up on Adult Swim somehow, and they edit it up or something.). I like it how it is. You may think that tons of violence=good show. But really it tends to run thin really fast. I mean do we really want to see Avatar turned into nothing but filler, pointless story arcs, random acts of violence that have no need behind it, and tons of fan service? I sure in the hell would not want to see in this show.

    Although I guess what you could say would be that I am against turning Avatar into a anime, or more anime like. Avatar to be blends the best elements of a anime, and a western style show nearly perfectly. The creators of the show don't try to make it into a anime (Like the French atrocity Totally Spies) and focus more on making a show that has its own style. Sure there are anime influences but it is to a point where it doesn't hinder the show.
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    gunswordfist

    [42]Dec 12, 2006
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    Avatar having much more action would make it a lot better.
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    Miroku_of_Nite1

    [43]Dec 12, 2006
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    Or would it? Action only dose not make a great show/movie. I rather watch Buono, il brutto, il cattivo, Il(The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly.) then Ballistic Ecks vs Sever. Action with a good story is better then just action.
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    gunswordfist

    [44]Dec 12, 2006
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    Miroku_of_Nite1 wrote:
    Or would it? Action only dose not make a great show/movie. I rather watch Buono, il brutto, il cattivo, Il(The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly.) then Ballistic Ecks vs Sever. Action with a good story is better then just action.
    More action would have made the Season Final 2 so much better. Instead we got '101 Ways Katara Can F' This Episode Up'.
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    ardron

    [45]Dec 12, 2006
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    gunswordfist wrote:
    Miroku_of_Nite1 wrote:
    Or would it? Action only dose not make a great show/movie. I rather watch Buono, il brutto, il cattivo, Il(The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly.) then Ballistic Ecks vs Sever. Action with a good story is better then just action.
    More action would have made the Season Final 2 so much better. Instead we got '101 Ways Katara Can F' This Episode Up'.

    NIcely stated. It was still pretty good though.

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    gunswordfist

    [46]Dec 12, 2006
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    ardron wrote:

    gunswordfist wrote:
    Miroku_of_Nite1 wrote:
    Or would it? Action only dose not make a great show/movie. I rather watch Buono, il brutto, il cattivo, Il(The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly.) then Ballistic Ecks vs Sever. Action with a good story is better then just action.
    More action would have made the Season Final 2 so much better. Instead we got '101 Ways Katara Can F' This Episode Up'.

    NIcely stated. It was still pretty good though.
    Yep and ppl don't get me wrong.??I still loved the Season Finale 2 but Katara stopped so much such as us seeing Hakoda and Sokka go to war (WWHHHYYYY!!!!!) and Aang mastering the Avatar State. That last one REALLY makes me mad.

    Anyway, I'm the biggest action junkie on this site but I know the difference between well executed action and mindless action. Some possibly scenes in the Finale 2 could have been well woven together with a sense of epic action (Hakoda and Sokka going to war is obviously the best example) and emotion because you would feel so much during these scenes. Especially Hakado and Sokka, Father and Son fighting alongside each other. I JUST cannot say that enough. I still can't believe we got a cliched 'Katara is the damsel in distress' scene instead.

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    shabahh

    [47]Dec 12, 2006
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    Not to me. I found that Hokado and Sokka fighting kind of pointless and taken away from the plot. The fight wasn't even going to be big. I just don't see any drama in that fight. Obviously it appeared to be no problem to Hokado.

    Executed action, mindless action, if it ruins the story, then forget it. The whole Hokado and Sokka moment was already done and explained.

    I just can't say enough about how pathetic the cliche excuse is. Also, Katara damsel in distress? Hmm, Zuko also was going to be rescued, they would have tried to find a way out. Too busy talking. Katara wasn't helpless, could fight Azula, rescued Aang. And what was wrong with the Avatar State? Showed emotion. Aang was finally letting go, almost went in fully avatar state, but Azula stopped it creating more drama. I can't tell if you're blaming Katara for Aang not gonig into Avatar State, but it ain't her fault and it adds more plot. I thought the epi was great.
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    PinkTyLee

    [48]Dec 12, 2006
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    Personally, I'd be shocked if it changed networks at all even after season 3.
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    ardron

    [49]Dec 12, 2006
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    gunswordfist wrote:
    ardron wrote:

    gunswordfist wrote:
    Miroku_of_Nite1 wrote:
    Or would it? Action only dose not make a great show/movie. I rather watch Buono, il brutto, il cattivo, Il(The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly.) then Ballistic Ecks vs Sever. Action with a good story is better then just action.
    More action would have made the Season Final 2 so much better. Instead we got '101 Ways Katara Can F' This Episode Up'.

    NIcely stated. It was still pretty good though.
    Yep and ppl don't get me wrong.??I still loved the Season Finale 2 but Katara stopped so much such as us seeing Hakoda and Sokka go to war (WWHHHYYYY!!!!!) and Aang mastering the Avatar State. That last one REALLY makes me mad.

    Anyway, I'm the biggest action junkie on this site but I know the difference between well executed action and mindless action. Some possibly scenes in the Finale 2 could have been well woven together with a sense of epic action (Hakoda and Sokka going to war is obviously the best example) and emotion because you would feel so much during these scenes. Especially Hakado and Sokka, Father and Son fighting alongside each other. I JUST cannot say that enough. I still can't believe we got a cliched 'Katara is the damsel in distress' scene instead.

    *Agrees* *Agrees again*

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    Dorky_Gurl_90

    [50]Dec 12, 2006
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    TheGreatAvatar wrote:
    well it doesent matter anyways

    nick already bought the 3rd season of avatar
    and if im sadly correct
    that might be the last season of avatar

    so nick would start playing replays

    after avatar is over,
    i think both cartoon network and nick would be playiing replays of avatar

    but cartoon network will not get avatar before avatar ends



    I think it should just stay on nick. It's been on nick since the beginning so why change now ? I hope theres more then 3 seasons. I don't want it to end. I'm gonna be sad and I know theres not gonna be a better show than Avatar =[
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    kataang4eva081

    [51]Dec 13, 2006
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    Avatar won't get anymore "respect" wherever it goes. Its just too different. Its got something for the kiddies but definatley can be understood to it fullest potential by teens and adults. Nick caters to the kiddies, CN caters to the kiddies, Adult Swim and such caters to not-so-much-kiddies, Avatar is a loner. I hate how Nick makes the creators/directors/writers change some of the fight scenes, like in LL Toph was going to say something that was more confirming of Jet dying, but Nick made them change it to "He's lying." And, agian in LL, the Long Feng/Aang/Jet fight was supposed to be a little more violent (in this case violent would have been more realistic=better). Avatar needs its own channel, that'd be cool. Nick will have to do, I hate to say it, but it'd be better off here.
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    KingAtticus

    [52]Dec 13, 2006
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    A channel dedicated to one show? ...*thinks about it*... that idea is terrible.

    I say that it stays on Nick. Why?

    1. Anime rules CN and most [adult swim] airwaves.
    2. Nick needs Avatar due to the fact most shows they have made aren't so good anymore. Now I'll admit, I liked Spongebob. But only the old episodes when they were good. Now they're terrible. Same goes for any Nick show that's been on there for several years.
    3. If anything, the show hasn't been turned into something that's completely unwatchable (I'm talkin' to you 4Kids!) and it's still enjoyable.
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    dumb_person1

    [53]Dec 13, 2006
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    Avatar is better on Nick because is a Nick show, but if Avatar gows to Cartoon Network that would change everything and Avatar is the best show on Nick if it leaves the channel Nick's rating would go down!.
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    gunswordfist

    [54]Dec 13, 2006
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    shabahh wrote:
    Not to me. I found that Hokado and Sokka fighting kind of pointless and taken away from the plot. The fight wasn't even going to be big. I just don't see any drama in that fight. Obviously it appeared to be no problem to Hokado. Executed action, mindless action, if it ruins the story, then forget it. The whole Hokado and Sokka moment was already done and explained. I just can't say enough about how pathetic the cliche excuse is. Also, Katara damsel in distress? Hmm, Zuko also was going to be rescued, they would have tried to find a way out. Too busy talking. Katara wasn't helpless, could fight Azula, rescued Aang. And what was wrong with the Avatar State? Showed emotion. Aang was finally letting go, almost went in fully avatar state, but Azula stopped it creating more drama. I can't tell if you're blaming Katara for Aang not gonig into Avatar State, but it ain't her fault and it adds more plot. I thought the epi was great.
    How would it take away from the plot? Last time I checked, Avatar is about beating the FN and that's what Sokka and Hakoda were going to do. And how can you tell the fight wasn't going to be big if you never saw it??? Who knows who was on that ship of even more important, why the FN was coming towards them in the first place. I don't care if Hakoda didn't have a problem with that. That was there cheap way of making it seem ok for Katara to ruin what would have been a great part. And I can't say how pathetic it is that you don't see the cliche. It's so obvious. Also, it seems that you didn't notice that Azula was pretending to be helpless. She would have killed Katara's helpless self but Azula was testing Zuko's loyalty to her. You can see that everytime Zuko 'saves' her and she smiles knowing that Zuko is on her side. It was SO OBVIOUS!!!!!!! It is Katara's fault for Aang not going into the Avatar State. When she was being shown capture, that's what stopped it so it's her fault. She is just a useless distraction for Aang.
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    gunswordfist

    [55]Dec 13, 2006
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    ardron wrote:
    gunswordfist wrote:
    ardron wrote:

    gunswordfist wrote:
    Miroku_of_Nite1 wrote:
    Or would it? Action only dose not make a great show/movie. I rather watch Buono, il brutto, il cattivo, Il(The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly.) then Ballistic Ecks vs Sever. Action with a good story is better then just action.
    More action would have made the Season Final 2 so much better. Instead we got '101 Ways Katara Can F' This Episode Up'.

    NIcely stated. It was still pretty good though.
    Yep and ppl don't get me wrong.??I still loved the Season Finale 2 but Katara stopped so much such as us seeing Hakoda and Sokka go to war (WWHHHYYYY!!!!!) and Aang mastering the Avatar State. That last one REALLY makes me mad.

    Anyway, I'm the biggest action junkie on this site but I know the difference between well executed action and mindless action. Some possibly scenes in the Finale 2 could have been well woven together with a sense of epic action (Hakoda and Sokka going to war is obviously the best example) and emotion because you would feel so much during these scenes. Especially Hakado and Sokka, Father and Son fighting alongside each other. I JUST cannot say that enough. I still can't believe we got a cliched 'Katara is the damsel in distress' scene instead.

    *Agrees* *Agrees again*
    I'm glad you agree because it's the truth!!!
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    sluggmunki_tx

    [56]Dec 13, 2006
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    Avatar should stay on Nick because it's unique to have an "anime-style" (not true anime!!!) show on the network. Plus it gives Nick a variety of shows instead of "kid comedy" like Spongebob and Oddparents all the time. Avatar on CN would be like facing death. I hate everything on CN since the whole damn channel is screwed up with showing real life movies and soon real life shows on Adult Swim that makes MTV worth watching. I hated CN since they dumped the classics. Avatar would have no chance on that network. I probably wouldn't see them on Jetix or Disney Channel either.
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    shabahh

    [57]Dec 14, 2006
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    gunswordfist wrote:
    shabahh wrote:
    Not to me. I found that Hokado and Sokka fighting kind of pointless and taken away from the plot. The fight wasn't even going to be big. I just don't see any drama in that fight. Obviously it appeared to be no problem to Hokado. Executed action, mindless action, if it ruins the story, then forget it. The whole Hokado and Sokka moment was already done and explained. I just can't say enough about how pathetic the cliche excuse is. Also, Katara damsel in distress? Hmm, Zuko also was going to be rescued, they would have tried to find a way out. Too busy talking. Katara wasn't helpless, could fight Azula, rescued Aang. And what was wrong with the Avatar State? Showed emotion. Aang was finally letting go, almost went in fully avatar state, but Azula stopped it creating more drama. I can't tell if you're blaming Katara for Aang not gonig into Avatar State, but it ain't her fault and it adds more plot. I thought the epi was great.
    How would it take away from the plot? Last time I checked, Avatar is about beating the FN and that's what Sokka and Hakoda were going to do. And how can you tell the fight wasn't going to be big if you never saw it??? Who knows who was on that ship of even more important, why the FN was coming towards them in the first place. I don't care if Hakoda didn't have a problem with that. That was there cheap way of making it seem ok for Katara to ruin what would have been a great part. And I can't say how pathetic it is that you don't see the cliche. It's so obvious. Also, it seems that you didn't notice that Azula was pretending to be helpless. She would have killed Katara's helpless self but Azula was testing Zuko's loyalty to her. You can see that everytime Zuko 'saves' her and she smiles knowing that Zuko is on her side. It was SO OBVIOUS!!!!!!! It is Katara's fault for Aang not going into the Avatar State. When she was being shown capture, that's what stopped it so it's her fault. She is just a useless distraction for Aang.


    Did I say I didn't see the cliche? No. What I'm saying is, EVERYTHING is cliche. The cliche excuse is pathetic cuz everythnig is cliche. If you try to take anything already used, you'd be left with nothing. It's not what's used, it's how it's used.
    The plot of THAT episode has to do with the earth kingdom and Azula. The small part with Sokka was Sokka meeting his Dad. Also the point has been made with Hakoda and Sokka with their interaction. Hokada sees he is grown up, proud of Sokka, and Sokka feels great that Hakoda would let him join him, which was great. But not just Katara took away the battle. Aang needs everyone to help take down the FN. Also that wasn't the first kind of battle, Hakoda said they've been doing it for a while.
    You can't blame Katara, for Aang falling in love with her. It's Aang's emotions, and as we know so far, Katara is clueless. She also wasn't the only one fooled. Azula fooled everyone.
    And she ain't useless, the whole group would have fallen apart if it wasn't for her. Especially in the desert.
    If there's one thing I don't get is everytime I see a rescue plot, if it's a boy rescuing a girl, it's automatically a "damsel in distress" plot used. It's just like when a boy and girl interact, there's already chemistry between them.
    Edited on 12/14/2006 6:49pm
    Edited 3 total times.
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    shybaby13

    [58]Dec 14, 2006
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    I don't care if it went on cartoon network it just better not go on disney channel.
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    dumb_person1

    [59]Dec 14, 2006
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    Avatar is better on Nick than any other channel.
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