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Prince Zuko....Aang's firebending teacher??

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    Eman5805

    [21]Aug 7, 2006
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    it won't happen...i just don't see that...Zuko needs to learn himself...only a Master can train anyone...haven't we determined this yet? lets break it down...Katara...well Master Pakku called her Master Katara so well that's enough billing right there...Master Yu said Toph was the greatest Earthbender he's ever seen (i doubt he was saying better than himself) but that's as much an endorsement as Toph...Zuko isn't even better than Azula or Iroh he isn't a Master yet...unless Zuko reaches the next level...he wont be training anyone let alone the Avatar, who btw he's still trying to capture to restore his honor(which i don't think he's lost, in fact his honor is deeper and greater??than anyone in the show)
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    qweasdzse

    [22]Aug 7, 2006
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    Well Aang said he would never do firebending anymore but he also said no more avatar state. I believe Aang will learn firebending but not from zuko. The reason that many people want Zuko to teach Aang is the popularity of the Iroh is gonna die theory. Zuko will need some serious growing up to teach anyone.

    Azula teaching Aang is an interesting theory but I find it not likely. Anything can be good if its executed good.

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    FreakishChild

    [23]Aug 7, 2006
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    ISpeakTheTruth wrote:
    FreakishChild wrote:
    ISpeakTheTruth wrote:

    Taang_Forever wrote:
    Or azula fails miserably, word gets to Ozai, he banishes her too, she has a hissy fit and decides to teach Aang firebending to get revenge on her father.

    Yeah that's not going to happen.

    But I don't think that Zuko will be his teacher the kid is too emotionally damaged to be teaching anyone anything. Iroh is the logical choice especially since he and Aang are going to end up in the same city at the end of the second season. Zuko may help but that's as far as I see it going.



    Listen to ISpeakTheTruth, he does more than speak truth, he speaks reason.

    Thanks for your support my brother...or sister. And I've seen a great many shows like avatar and one thing I know is when Aang Iroh and the others reach Ba Seng Sai they'll spend most of the remainder of the series there. For these reasons.

    1. The creatures need you to feel a bound with the city when it is eventually attacked by the FN.

    2. Since Iroh is going to be in the city Aang won't have to leave it to find a Firebending teacher.

    3. Iroh' sconnection and past with the city will eventually lead him to defend it against the FN doing so will make his character's story come full circle.

    4. The more I think of it the more I think that Ozai will actually be on the cite of the invasion of the city. Since it has never made much sense to have two separate story arcs (Aang fighting the Fire Lord and the rest protecting the city) that way both can happen in the same place and time being more fluid.



    Sister, I thought you'd know I was a girl by now but I guess you can only tell on these boards if you're a Zuko fangirl.

    Iroh does have deep ties to the city, but I have to wonder what would spark the drive to defend I Ba Sing Se. For redemption? I never got the impression he regretted his actions so much that he'd strike against his own nation. He doesn't think of them as scum, so no racism on his part, his stance has just been loyalty to the Fire Nation. Vengeance for declaring him a fugitive? No. To protect the innocents in Ba Sing Se? I could see Iroh doing that. The uncle we know is so different than the Dragon of the past. Maybe Iroh will help in the defeat against the Fire Nation for the sake of the balance. We know it's in him, but he will have to go further than what he did in the North Pole.

    But all in all, this is making me look forward to future character development from Iroh.
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    ISpeakTheTruth

    [24]Aug 7, 2006
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    FreakishChild wrote:
    ISpeakTheTruth wrote:
    FreakishChild wrote:
    ISpeakTheTruth wrote:

    Taang_Forever wrote:
    Or azula fails miserably, word gets to Ozai, he banishes her too, she has a hissy fit and decides to teach Aang firebending to get revenge on her father.

    Yeah that's not going to happen.

    But I don't think that Zuko will be his teacher the kid is too emotionally damaged to be teaching anyone anything. Iroh is the logical choice especially since he and Aang are going to end up in the same city at the end of the second season. Zuko may help but that's as far as I see it going.



    Listen to ISpeakTheTruth, he does more than speak truth, he speaks reason.

    Thanks for your support my brother...or sister. And I've seen a great many shows like avatar and one thing I know is when Aang Iroh and the others reach Ba Seng Sai they'll spend most of the remainder of the series there. For these reasons.

    1. The creatures need you to feel a bound with the city when it is eventually attacked by the FN.

    2. Since Iroh is going to be in the city Aang won't have to leave it to find a Firebending teacher.

    3. Iroh' sconnection and past with the city will eventually lead him to defend it against the FN doing so will make his character's story come full circle.

    4. The more I think of it the more I think that Ozai will actually be on the cite of the invasion of the city. Since it has never made much sense to have two separate story arcs (Aang fighting the Fire Lord and the rest protecting the city) that way both can happen in the same place and time being more fluid.



    Sister, I thought you'd know I was a girl by now but I guess you can only tell on these boards if you're a Zuko fangirl.

    Iroh does have deep ties to the city, but I have to wonder what would spark the drive to defend I Ba Sing Se. For redemption? I never got the impression he regretted his actions so much that he'd strike against his own nation. He doesn't think of them as scum, so no racism on his part, his stance has just been loyalty to the Fire Nation. Vengeance for declaring him a fugitive? No. To protect the innocents in Ba Sing Se? I could see Iroh doing that. The uncle we know is so different than the Dragon of the past. Maybe Iroh will help in the defeat against the Fire Nation for the sake of the balance. We know it's in him, but he will have to go further than what he did in the North Pole.

    But all in all, this is making me look forward to future character development from Iroh.

    In the trailor Iroh said he saw the city when he was a different man. He seemed to be ashamed of the man he used to be which makes me think if push comes to shuve he would defend the city.

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    Colonel_Brian

    [25]Aug 7, 2006
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    Yes all great information and finds but according to Comic-Con people who wnet posted this

    -We will find out more of Lu-Ten?? and Iroh's seige at Ba-Sing-Se

    This can help that theory or reasonings or people are messing with us.

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    LittleHobbit13

    [26]Aug 8, 2006
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    What I can say for certain is that Aang's fire bending master will be either Iroh or Zuko.

    Clearly, as it stands now, Iroh seems like the more plausible choice for a teacher, but you don't know how his story is going to play out.?? As such, I forsee two possiblities.

    1-?? Iroh teaches Aang, but Zuko helps the teaching with mock battles.?? Zuko needs to finally see that nothing he does at this point will restore his honor in his father's eyes.?? (I mean, the real truth is, he needs to realize that he never lost his honor because he did the right thing??standing up to that general.)?? Zuko would be more a training buddy to Aang instead of the teacher himself.

    2-?? Something (hopefully nothing tragically horrible) will take Iroh out of the picture.?? Zuko will have to realize that his only way back home is to side with Aang and teach him.?? In teaching Aang, he will be able to see his own faults and weaknesses, as well as his strengths.?? I think that realizing those things for himself, along with not having Iroh to watch over him, will enable him to teach Aang well.?? Besides, can't you just imagine Zuko teaching Aang, but being?? a harda** about it? :-P?? "No, do this differently, and do that better!"?? Etc etc.?? It'd be great to watch.

    Anyways, those are just two theories of mine.

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    angelstella

    [27]Aug 8, 2006
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    I believe it will be Zuko. Iroh told him it was time for him to resume his training after Azula tried to trick him into going home. Look how fast Katara became a waterbending master.
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    ISpeakTheTruth

    [28]Aug 8, 2006
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    angelstella wrote:
    I believe it will be Zuko. Iroh told him it was time for him to resume his training after Azula tried to trick him into going home. Look how fast Katara became a waterbending master.

    Yeah but you have to remember that Iroh was teaching him for almost three years when he was on his ship so Zuko isn't as fast of a learner as Katara is.

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    Colonel_Brian

    [29]Aug 8, 2006
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    He could be if he had a calm mind maybe Zuko was driven ever since his banishment not in the middle of it.
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    angelstella

    [30]Aug 8, 2006
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    Yeah, he lets his anger get in the way of his progress. His attitude seems??to be??changing for the better though, so maybe he'll be in a better frame of mind since he seems to be ??realizing that capturing Aang isn't going to get him what he wants.

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    WKWARRIOR

    [31]Aug 8, 2006
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    I doubt Zuko would ever teach aang firebending because

    A) Aang doesnt want him to.?? I dont think he would be willing to work with Zuko no matter what.??

    B)??Zuko's not a master himself and i doubt he could teach aang bending from scratch.?? I realize that Katara taught aang waternending but here she had a strong base to work from.?? Aang may have managed to bend fire in the Jeong episode, but i still say he's doesn't have a good enough foundation to work from.

    C) Zuko probably still doesn't want to teach aang.?? It would be a huge sting to his honor, which i dont think he has quite forsaken.

    D)??Aang still doesn't want to learn firebending.?? Let's just say that you accidently shot your best??friend, I'll just say on a hunting trip (u pull a cheney).?? Your friend survives with no lasting damage whatsoever, but would you ever touch a gun again.?? This is the exact same trama aang had to go through, and that doesn't go away too easily.

    Now, for all the people that say Iroh is gonna die, i doubt that.?? Theres still alot to flesh out and i dont think one episode could do it.?? Also if your working under the theory that Mako died, he finished season 2 already.

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    angelstella

    [32]Aug 8, 2006
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    Idk, they worked very well together in the Blue Spirit episode. Even in the Chase Zuko was signalling to Aang when to strike at Azula, so they already have worked together twice. I think, for the sake of restoring world order, they would both be willing to work together again.
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    WKWARRIOR

    [33]Aug 9, 2006
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    That still leaves two very good reasons it wouldnt happen, even if they would both be willing to do it.?? Aang didnt know it was Zuko the majority of the time in the blue spirit, and Zuko only did that to be able to capture aang himself.?? It was an act of selfishness.?? The other one was an act of hate, for his sister.?? Also, it was an act of pride.
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    Colonel_Brian

    [34]Aug 9, 2006
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    WWell I know one thing he really doesn't want Azula?? to get him.
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