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Official Season Three Speculation II

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    avatarfan22122

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    gilvatar wrote:
    Pyro_Bender wrote:
    xXKarisuXx wrote:
    gilvatar wrote:
    avatarfan22122 wrote:

    Spike815 wrote:
    xXKarisuXx wrote:
    So guys. I watched the "Escape from the Spirit World" vids again on Youtube, and something Yangchen said disturbed me. "...Unfortunately, it seems your ability to enter the Avatar State has been disrupted. You won't be able to rely on your past lives to help you. You must rely on your friends." And Roku said in The Awakening that the Avatar State (the glowy) is an Avatar's past lives' skillz and stuff. Does this mean Aang cannot enter the avatar state?
    "If you leave now, you won't be able to enter the Avatar state AT ALL!" -The Guru And he left...
    AHA but ROKU says

    "you WILL MASTER the AVATAR STATE as i once did"...so i take it he will.

    + an eppi later Aang got into the avatar state.
    No, no, I was talking about when he got shot down by Azula while he was in the Avatar State. Remeber how they flashed back to Roku's warning at the beginning of the ep?
    Yes, and they obviously did it for a reason because it had no meaning in their otherwise. I don't think we can say whether or not the condition is on Aang's Avatar State until Season 3 premieres becauses it could go either way.
    what about in the online game unlock-with-this-word thingy? Yangchen said it was disrupted. not dystroyed.
    ya she sadi it was disrupted not un useable....thats after roku syas he will be abe to use it......eventually....and i think aangs past lives know more about the avatar state that the Guru...he probably told aang that he would never get to use the avatar state againb/c thats what he thought to be true...random question...do you think there ever was an evil avatar?
    Edited on 09/06/2007 1:00pm
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    Kas_dude

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    avatarfan22122 wrote:
    gilvatar wrote:
    Pyro_Bender wrote:
    xXKarisuXx wrote:
    gilvatar wrote:
    avatarfan22122 wrote:

    Spike815 wrote:
    xXKarisuXx wrote:
    So guys. I watched the "Escape from the Spirit World" vids again on Youtube, and something Yangchen said disturbed me. "...Unfortunately, it seems your ability to enter the Avatar State has been disrupted. You won't be able to rely on your past lives to help you. You must rely on your friends." And Roku said in The Awakening that the Avatar State (the glowy) is an Avatar's past lives' skillz and stuff. Does this mean Aang cannot enter the avatar state?
    "If you leave now, you won't be able to enter the Avatar state AT ALL!" -The Guru And he left...
    AHA but ROKU says

    "you WILL MASTER the AVATAR STATE as i once did"...so i take it he will.

    + an eppi later Aang got into the avatar state.
    No, no, I was talking about when he got shot down by Azula while he was in the Avatar State. Remeber how they flashed back to Roku's warning at the beginning of the ep?
    Yes, and they obviously did it for a reason because it had no meaning in their otherwise. I don't think we can say whether or not the condition is on Aang's Avatar State until Season 3 premieres becauses it could go either way.
    what about in the online game unlock-with-this-word thingy? Yangchen said it was disrupted. not dystroyed.
    ya she sadi it was disrupted not un useable....thats after roku syas he will be abe to use it......eventually....and i think aangs past lives know more about the avatar state that the Guru...he probably told aang that he would never get to use the avatar state againb/c thats what he thought to be true...random question...do you think there ever was an evil avatar?

    the avatar states an unknown factor for me right now- i think it will come back at the end though, not right away

    and evil avatar? i dunno. great answer huh?

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    gilvatar

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    avatarfan22122 wrote:
    gilvatar wrote:
    Pyro_Bender wrote:
    xXKarisuXx wrote:
    gilvatar wrote:
    avatarfan22122 wrote:

    Spike815 wrote:
    xXKarisuXx wrote:
    So guys. I watched the "Escape from the Spirit World" vids again on Youtube, and something Yangchen said disturbed me. "...Unfortunately, it seems your ability to enter the Avatar State has been disrupted. You won't be able to rely on your past lives to help you. You must rely on your friends." And Roku said in The Awakening that the Avatar State (the glowy) is an Avatar's past lives' skillz and stuff. Does this mean Aang cannot enter the avatar state?
    "If you leave now, you won't be able to enter the Avatar state AT ALL!" -The Guru And he left...
    AHA but ROKU says

    "you WILL MASTER the AVATAR STATE as i once did"...so i take it he will.

    + an eppi later Aang got into the avatar state.
    No, no, I was talking about when he got shot down by Azula while he was in the Avatar State. Remeber how they flashed back to Roku's warning at the beginning of the ep?
    Yes, and they obviously did it for a reason because it had no meaning in their otherwise. I don't think we can say whether or not the condition is on Aang's Avatar State until Season 3 premieres becauses it could go either way.
    what about in the online game unlock-with-this-word thingy? Yangchen said it was disrupted. not dystroyed.
    ya she sadi it was disrupted not un useable....thats after roku syas he will be abe to use it......eventually....and i think aangs past lives know more about the avatar state that the Guru...he probably told aang that he would never get to use the avatar state againb/c thats what he thought to be true...random question...do you think there ever was an evil avatar?
    ya, was the guru the avatar? no. Aang and his past lives are. I don't think there was an evil avatar. I think the avatar spirit choses a body that it knows will do the right thing.
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    zuko412

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    the avatar spirit just picks a random body. itll work as long as its in the next race/
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    Kas_dude

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    zuko412 wrote:
    the avatar spirit just picks a random body. itll work as long as its in the next race/

    also if the body's born at the right time

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    Sektos

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    WHy cant ppl except thast Aang cant use the Av State. Its not just the Guru and last chakra, but also the fact that it was damaged we Azula zapped him (stated clearly in Escape the Spirit World). The chances are that they will not be using it again because it (as a taump card) has been used way tooooooo many times. Its going to be a group effort, mostly from Zuko and Aang in the end.

    As for bodies and reincarnation in the Avatar world; when the Avatar dies it probably causes the conception of its next body in the next tribe, so the baby is not simply part of both parents but also configured by the Av Spirit to house it. This is just my theory, because the creators said their is a connection between genes and being a bender, but we have the case of the EN twins with only one being a Bender, so its prob only an aspect of it.
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    m_i_g_s

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    Ppl i had a dream last night and when yo hear this you are going 2 want 2 kill me 4 saying it but...............................................

    I dreamt that season 3 sucked big time oh and i more thing .

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    Kas_dude

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    Sektos wrote:
    As for bodies and reincarnation in the Avatar world; when the Avatar dies it probably causes the conception of its next body in the next tribe, so the baby is not simply part of both parents but also configured by the Av Spirit to house it.

    i dont think so- coz the avatar was a baby born a week after the last one died. but still- good theory

    Edited on 09/07/2007 12:52pm
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    avatarfan22122

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    m_i_g_s wrote:

    Ppl i had a dream last night and when yo hear this you are going 2 want 2 kill me 4 saying it but...............................................

    I dreamt that season 3 sucked big time oh and i more thing .

    i bet you dreamed irt was terrible b/c u fear it might be......i bet it wont...and can we move on...from the whoel avatyar state things ROku said AFTER SEASON 2 ENDED that aang WILL master it as he once did....and aangs told it was BLOCKEd not un-useable...tho now there may be a bigger sacrifice than just letting katara go to be able to open that chukra now.....no im not aying katara has to die but that aang will have to probably do alot more thsi time than what he was asked by the guru and aang didnt die he is atill the avatar...and so on......

    now i know Ursa is coming that old ews but has any one else thought what she told Zuko by the pond could be foreshadowing of what role she will play? "Zuko thats how moms are,...you mess with theri babies.....CHOMp..they're gonna bite back..".

    the mom would refere to ursa....Zuko would be her baby..and Ozai/Azula could be the ones messin with him....etc

    Edited on 09/07/2007 12:55pm
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    Sektos wrote:
    WHy cant ppl except thast Aang cant use the Av State. Its not just the Guru and last chakra, but also the fact that it was damaged we Azula zapped him (stated clearly in Escape the Spirit World). The chances are that they will not be using it again because it (as a taump card) has been used way tooooooo many times. Its going to be a group effort, mostly from Zuko and Aang in the end.

    As for bodies and reincarnation in the Avatar world; when the Avatar dies it probably causes the conception of its next body in the next tribe, so the baby is not simply part of both parents but also configured by the Av Spirit to house it. This is just my theory, because the creators said their is a connection between genes and being a bender, but we have the case of the EN twins with only one being a Bender, so its prob only an aspect of it.
    or the EK twins could be fraturnal (sp?) twins.
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    avatarfan22122

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    lets say it this way about genes and bending.....its like a wizard anda witch marry...90% of the time the kid'll be able to do magic...the other 10% just cant...like it skips a generation....like two superheoes getiing married...dosnt mean their kid will be the next superman.......and as for the avatar....i dont think aang has to have a prt in it..the spirit is seperate from the person..its just uses a body to exist..it chooses a suitable person or should isay suitable parents..and then embodies inside theri child,,,so as to experience emotions, and life......
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    Kas_dude wrote:

    zuko412 wrote:
    the avatar spirit just picks a random body. itll work as long as its in the next race/

    also if the body's born at the right time

    Yeah, that would be a good idea.....LOL

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    zuko412

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    Princess_Sasuke wrote:
    Kas_dude wrote:

    zuko412 wrote:
    the avatar spirit just picks a random body. itll work as long as its in the next race/

    also if the body's born at the right time

    Yeah, that would be a good idea.....LOL


    unless it only takes a week of fertilization in the avatar world.
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    freshdth

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    hmm heres a thought, does it seem that aangs past and zuko's present life seem to be a bit the same. I am not talking about there child hood life im just talking about there own feelings of betrayel to the people they love. On aangs side we have him leaving the air temple and going against his masters wishes( although he dint know what they were) a 100 years later having seen his people destroyed he feels as though he betrayedthem. on zuko's side we have him very doubtful of his actions to his uncle and possibly regretting his actions (possibly) and after all he has been through with his uncle and how far he has been with him, healso maysense offeeling ofbetrayel to his loved one
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    zuko412

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    thats part of the parallel story between Aang and Zuko.
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    zuko412 wrote:
    Princess_Sasuke wrote:
    Kas_dude wrote:

    zuko412 wrote:
    the avatar spirit just picks a random body. itll work as long as its in the next race/

    also if the body's born at the right time

    Yeah, that would be a good idea.....LOL

    unless it only takes a week of fertilization in the avatar world.

    Or maybe the Avatar spirit actually picks its next host not after its current host dies, but when it feels that its current host is nearing death and so it will find a random newborn in the next nation in the cycleand after its current host then dies, it travels to the new host but doesn't go into its body until it's actually born.

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    freshdth wrote:
    hmm heres a thought, does it seem that aangs past and zuko's present life seem to be a bit the same. I am not talking about there child hood life im just talking about there own feelings of betrayel to the people they love. On aangs side we have him leaving the air temple and going against his masters wishes( although he dint know what they were) a 100 years later having seen his people destroyed he feels as though he betrayedthem. on zuko's side we have him very doubtful of his actions to his uncle and possibly regretting his actions (possibly) and after all he has been through with his uncle and how far he has been with him, healso maysense offeeling ofbetrayel to his loved one
    change that possib;y to probubly.

    is this the face of a guy that's proud of his actions?

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    gilvatar wrote:

    freshdth wrote:
    hmm heres a thought, does it seem that aangs past and zuko's present life seem to be a bit the same. I am not talking about there child hood life im just talking about there own feelings of betrayel to the people they love. On aangs side we have him leaving the air temple and going against his masters wishes( although he dint know what they were) a 100 years later having seen his people destroyed he feels as though he betrayedthem. on zuko's side we have him very doubtful of his actions to his uncle and possibly regretting his actions (possibly) and after all he has been through with his uncle and how far he has been with him, healso maysense offeeling ofbetrayel to his loved one
    change that possib;y to probubly.

    is this the face of a guy that's proud of his actions?

    you actually have a REALLY good point.....the problem is tho that the reason they have such big differences with each other is that they dont kno how similar they really are..(if that made sense)...i mean if they actualyl knew the others past....maybe things coulda been different....hmmm ur right about zuko's face....i smell another internal conflict....goodness Zuko quick find ur mom so she can set ur right!!and aang forget about when u burned katara she forgave you....geez those two are stubborn
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    m_i_g_s

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    avatarfan22122 wrote:
    gilvatar wrote:

    freshdth wrote:
    hmm heres a thought, does it seem that aangs past and zuko's present life seem to be a bit the same. I am not talking about there child hood life im just talking about there own feelings of betrayel to the people they love. On aangs side we have him leaving the air temple and going against his masters wishes( although he dint know what they were) a 100 years later having seen his people destroyed he feels as though he betrayedthem. on zuko's side we have him very doubtful of his actions to his uncle and possibly regretting his actions (possibly) and after all he has been through with his uncle and how far he has been with him, healso maysense offeeling ofbetrayel to his loved one
    change that possib;y to probubly.

    is this the face of a guy that's proud of his actions?

    you actually have a REALLY good point.....the problem is tho that the reason they have such big differences with each other is that they dont kno how similar they really are..(if that made sense)...i mean if they actualyl knew the others past....maybe things coulda been different....hmmm ur right about zuko's face....i smell another internal conflict....goodness Zuko quick find ur mom so she can set ur right!!and aang forget about when u burned katara she forgave you....geez those two are stubborn

    Might i just say something zuko's having a dream because he has the fn ruler (lord) thingi in his hair only the ruler wears it.....

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    Sektos

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    [/QUOTE]

    i dont think so- coz the avatar was a baby born a week after the last one died. but still- good theory

    [/QUOTE]

    I didnt know Aang was born only a week after Ruko's death? When did they say that? Well, i always had a theory that the AvSPirit moves between the ancestors of the first Benders (eg the children of the Omashu) being more powerful than the average bender. AHA, just had an idea, could Ruko be Sozin (spl?) brother!!! (or relative!)The FN royalty came from the Fire sages, the most powerful of the group, seizing full power from the others. It explains why Sozin had such an issue with Ruko and thirst for power; the one who wasnt chosen to be Avatar. Explains similarities between Zuko & Ruko (name wise) the reason why Iroh, Azula (and including Zuko, he just has iner turmoil, but he'll kick Azulas a*s in the End ) are so powerful, plus Iroh was able to go to the spirit world.

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