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Official Episode Discussion: City Of Walls and Secrets (9/22)

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    Torizzllle

    [221]Sep 23, 2006
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    K4A5T6A5A4N6G wrote:
    DO YOU KNOW IF YOU TUBE HAS CITY OF WALLS AND SECRETS.


    yes it does but the part 3 starts to mess up
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    Earthbender0820

    [222]Sep 23, 2006
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    This is the most weirdest episode i've ever seen... Omg freaky *shudders*

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    Earthbender0820

    [223]Sep 23, 2006
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    It was still good though
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    Earthbender0820

    [224]Sep 23, 2006
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    Torizzllle wrote:
    K4A5T6A5A4N6G wrote:
    DO YOU KNOW IF YOU TUBE HAS CITY OF WALLS AND SECRETS.


    yes it does but the part 3 starts to mess up

    go to http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=lionelra and look at the videos he made. You can watch City of Walls and Secrets there.
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    Torizzllle

    [225]Sep 23, 2006
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    Earthbender0820 wrote:

    This is the most weirdest episode i've ever seen... Omg freaky *shudders*


    omg i no i was like wth the whole time it was on it was unlike any other episode, but i loved it to its one of my fav.
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    Earthbender0820

    [226]Sep 23, 2006
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    someone198 wrote:

    F1ames wrote:
    the long-awaited fight between zuko and jet was awful i felt really disappointed. there wasnt much display of skill from zuko as in the blue spirit and jet in "jet." and the creators shouldnt have kept on cutting off the??fight.????
    ?? I agree it could have been better. I wish it had been longer so we could have seen more action and that??they didn't keep cutting away and coming back; that works in some scenes, like the last scene with Jet and Long Feng, but??I didn't like it in this case. But, I found??the scene??cool enough. I was excited from the very beginning when Zuko just grabbed the first swords he could reach and said, "You want a show? I'll give you a show!"

    I think the funniest line was definitely Iroh's "Sick of tea? That's like being sick of breathing!", but Toph's "Have you been hitting the cactus juice again?" was priceless, too.

    Sparrowkeets???Well, not the most interesting hybrid, but seeing a pet shop in their world was interesting.

    Poor Jet. He??may be obessed, but the fact is, he was right; he just didn't handle the situation right. Is it just me, or do the paranoid ones always fall victim to the government conspiracy first?

    The gAang group also thinks that regular bears are weird. LOL
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    K4A5T6A5A4N6G

    [227]Sep 23, 2006
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    THANKS I SEE IT ON YOU TUBE BUT THE SECOND PART CUTS WITH KATARA AND TOPH DISSCUSING.

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    lilykt7

    [228]Sep 23, 2006
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    I LOVE THIS EPISODE. The politics and smart humour, ok for those who don't like politics and city structures this won't be interesting but you have to READ BETWEEN THE LINES. The poorer people are on the outskirts of Ba sing se, that means if it is ever attacked they would go through them first giving the middle class and waelthier class time to escape or plan an attack back. The theme is bit more complex and dark for an avatar episode so I can see how people would like to talk about the jet/zuko fight or the party but honestly this episode was so much more. I give it two thumbs up!
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    starreh

    [229]Sep 23, 2006
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    I just saw it, and it was awesome.
    It's so creepy too. And the manners part, I could not stop laughing.
    I really hope he finds Appa soon, cause ya'll know how I love Appa. He's like a big sheep. XD
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    someone198

    [230]Sep 23, 2006
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    Given this freaky turn of events, I guess we can forget about a Season 1 parallel "Siege of Ba Sing Sei" Season 2 finale.
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    Breakflame

    [231]Sep 23, 2006
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    Can't wait till next episode, cause that's when this happens.

    Smellerbee mentions the war and Jet goes "What War? There is no war."
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    Colonel_Brian

    [232]Sep 23, 2006
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    Well according to some guy who "claims" he has "spoilers" the next episode is a filler then once 16 airs the season will build up to a climax.
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    starreh

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    MMmmmm, fillleeerrr.
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    mister001

    [234]Sep 23, 2006
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    I think this season is better then the previous if you look at the action and the importance of the episodes, i only got 2 shows who aren't fun to watch multiple times with season 1 i got about 4 of those... i think the filler episode will also be one that i can add as "fun to watch twice but anoying to watch for a third time" but that's just what i think about it.
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    mellomuse

    [235]Sep 23, 2006
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    This was my reaction to this episode for about 5 straight minutes:

    WOW.????

    I too did not like the cutaways from the fight, but overall it was good.?? The hayseed decapitation was cool. And the Zuko table-balancing act reminded me of "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon".?? I was not at all surprised that the fight ended with Jet getting arrested... but I was surprised that he quickly became, you know, example #1 of what happens when sombody messes with the Dai Li.??

    Does anyone else suddenly feel very, very sorry for Jet??? He causes his own problems, yes.?? But he could do so much good if he'd let go of all that hate.?? (Hmm.... sounds like Zuko from season 1...) It was so pathetic when Iroh was calling him "son" and trying to get Jet to stop... he knew Jet would either get chopped up or taken away by the cops.?? ????Jet reminds me of Matt Dillon's character from "The Outsiders."

    I am hoping against hope that somebody rescues him before he gets turned into a male "Joo Dee."

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    cisalpine

    [236]Sep 23, 2006
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    I wonder what they call those? Jin Do's? Jor... Dan's?
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    Colonel_Brian

    [237]Sep 23, 2006
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    He won't he's just going to keep quiet as for Joo Dee not all people are made like that just her cause it fits.
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    mister001

    [238]Sep 23, 2006
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    I think that jet (when he's back to normal) will create some sort of resistance group, which will try to rid the city of these dictator folks and when done with it will try to prevent that (those dictator folks) from ever "getting" there again...

    I also think that at the beginning of season 3 you'll see a new ba sing se being build/rebuild (depends on the damage the fire nation has caused to the city)by jet and his "Freedom Fighters". That would just suit jet's character perfectly (if you ask me) and would make jet's character more useful and nicer/more loved.
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    Pharmacopoeia

    [239]Sep 23, 2006
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    lilykt7 wrote:
    I LOVE THIS EPISODE. The politics and smart humour, ok for those who don't like politics and city structures this won't be interesting but you have to READ BETWEEN THE LINES. The poorer people are on the outskirts of Ba sing se, that means if it is ever attacked they would go through them first giving the middle class and waelthier class time to escape or plan an attack back. The theme is bit more complex and dark for an avatar episode so I can see how people would like to talk about the jet/zuko fight or the party but honestly this episode was so much more. I give it two thumbs up!

    I totally agree. The whole time I was watching this I kept thinking about the Soviet Union or Communist China. It was really amazing how well the creators did on trying to make Ba Sing Se look good, but everyone knows it is a fake security. This is by far one of my favorite episodes. I hope there are more like this.

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    FreakishChild

    [240]Sep 23, 2006
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    mellomuse wrote:

    This was my reaction to this episode for about 5 straight minutes:

    WOW.

    I too did not like the cutaways from the fight, but overall it was good. The hayseed decapitation was cool. And the Zuko table-balancing act reminded me of "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon". I was not at all surprised that the fight ended with Jet getting arrested... but I was surprised that he quickly became, you know, example #1 of what happens when sombody messes with the Dai Li.

    Does anyone else suddenly feel very, very sorry for Jet? He causes his own problems, yes. But he could do so much good if he'd let go of all that hate. (Hmm.... sounds like Zuko from season 1...) It was so pathetic when Iroh was calling him "son" and trying to get Jet to stop... he knew Jet would either get chopped up or taken away by the cops. Jet reminds me of Matt Dillon's character from "The Outsiders."

    I am hoping against hope that somebody rescues him before he gets turned into a male "Joo Dee."



    Mellomuse, I did not enjoy the Jet vs. Zuko fight because
    the whole time I was already grieving for Jet. It was obvious what was going to
    happen to him as soon as he yelled "FIRE NATION." To tell the truth
    I'd rather see him as the dead man than a Joo Dee. If he had been killed at
    least he would have died as a human instead of being reduced to a will-less
    shadow.



    Ba Sing Se reminds me of 1984. The novel 1984 takes place in a dystopia where
    there are three classes of people as we saw in Ba Sing Se; low, middle, and
    high. When people start making noises, rebel against the government, or break
    the law citizens are taken away and brainwashed until they are thoughtless
    drones. In fact, even the clever citizens who believed in what their government
    was doing were taken to "camps" and brainwashed. Why did this befall
    the proud nationalists? It was because those in power didn't want the classes
    beneath them to possess the ability of THOUGHT. Stuff like this happens in our
    world too. If folks didn't keep quiet during in the Third Reich they were taken
    away, and if you began asking where your neighbors went say goodbye to the
    sunny side of life. In China
    today those who appose the government are "re-educated."



    1984 put the devil???s fear in me of absolution. And absolution,
    my friends, is totalitarism tyranny.




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