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Official Discussion: The Guru/The Crossroads of Destiny (12/1 - Spoilers)

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    kmavatar92

    [1001]Dec 3, 2006
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    when does the new season start? i keep hearing about 6 monthes? that seems a little long... and i need to know what happened with kataang! although since what happened i think that none of the shippings will be apparent for a while...
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    ndnprincess

    [1002]Dec 3, 2006
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    I don't think we have to wait 6 months I been looking at the dates and season 2 started last march so I maybe end of Feb. or March
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    Eman5805

    [1003]Dec 3, 2006
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    ndnprincess wrote:
    I don't think we have to wait 6 months I been looking at the dates and season 2 started last march so I maybe end of Feb. or March

    According to pooldude, the first episode won't even be finished until sometime in April so...

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    Spike815

    [1004]Dec 3, 2006
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    Wow the creators messed with almost every ship in the season finale.

    They shot down Zutara *YESS!!!*

    They made fun of Ty-Lokka

    They re-inforced George (Suki/Sokka)

    They showed a little more of Tokka (notice how Toph was holding onto Sokka as they flew into Ba-Sing-Se) *YES!!!*

    They did something to Kataang, not sure what...
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    bodhi108

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    (i know its a lot of stuff, but just trying to keep things fresh)

    So, ive watched the finale way too many times and now like everyone esle i'm trying to think bout the beggining of next season, most immediately: where will the gaang head out for on Appa? Are they gonna keep the earth king and Bosco (is that the bear's name?) where will they land the first night, and which direction are they heading?

    Although Katara did heal/save Aang he was unconcious at the very end and looked in need of serious attn or at least a bed/food/stable area to recoup.

    So where could the group head? here some of my thoughts:

    1. Flip a b***ch right back to BSS and start planning a counter-coup. Even though Azula and the Dai li??are in tech.??control the city, what about all the citizens?, what about the army/guard troops? Where the hell is Iroh? They could land in the lower ring, kidnap a dai li or two and get enough info to start planning something. Also, BSS is a huge city w/ 100,000's people, if their was an orgz. uprising against the Dai Li,??i doubt they would??have the manpowr to stop it, and i think iroh will constantly play a crucial role in the next season, so the gaang might try to seek him out right away, or at least when Aang is healed.

    2. Hakoda/Water tribe base. Hakoda said that the bay led to the outskirts of BSS, and all the warriors were sailing to battle some FN ships, so they could go there/drop of Aang the king and the bear and go aid the WT warriors.

    3. Back to E. Air temple. It seems pretty far away, but definitly a safe place to regroup/think/heal/get insight from the guru, find out the real deal w/ Aang and the Avatar state.

    4. Wilderness/boonies/random EK village: they could just land ASAP once they were far enough from BSS and start a discussing (heatedly knowing Toph and Sokka) about the best thing to do next, and take a breather/heal Aang more.

    5.Omahsu/Bumi: Even though its also in FN 'control'??of Omashu??Bumi said he was just waiting for the right moment to act, (seems alot like Taoism to me accoplish the most by doing the least) and now would seem like a good time to orgz a plan to re-take Omashu and BSS.

    6. North/South pole: Doesn't seem to likely to me. Both are very far and there are several closer places to land that are still safe from FN.

    PS: im just as shocked as all yall about Zuko's betrayal, but i def. think he either has a plan or will wake up and smell the onion/banana juice about how stupid he was to trust Azula, (those two words should never go together!) and to betray Iroh, and i think he'll redeem himself early in season 3.

    PPS i know its a bunch but ive been reading all the posts (almost 1,000 alright!) and trying to keep discussion going, cause who knows how long (a few months at the least) till the start of season three?

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    kmavatar92

    [1006]Dec 3, 2006
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    i luved that part where toph was holding on to sokka. it looks like he was enjoying it. i luved when mai was just like " take the bear" that was gold!
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    Eman5805

    [1007]Dec 3, 2006
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    You know what the most painful thing about speculating about what the Squad is doing next is? We won't learn the truth for about 6 months. Guess I'm just gonna have to??spend that time struggling through the Avatar withdrawl symptoms the only way I know how. By rewatching every single season 2 episode about 20 times each. Maybe that'll tide me over.

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    sokkarockya

    [1008]Dec 3, 2006
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    did anyone notice zuko's lil whip like fire?? kinda reminded me of lightning
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    TVMaster10

    [1009]Dec 3, 2006
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    I just want to ask one thing for now. Why didnt zuko use that fire missle on katara or on aang when he was in the avatar state. His fire missle totally blasted the crystal protection aang had. it seems ilogical.why, why, why?
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    whiteforest

    [1010]Dec 3, 2006
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    TVMaster10 wrote:
    I just want to ask one thing for now. Why didnt zuko use that fire missle on katara or on aang when he was in the avatar state. His fire missle totally blasted the crystal protection aang had. it seems ilogical.why, why, why?

    Because he wasn't really trying to hurt Aang or Katara, just enough so that it seems to Azula that he's on her side. Heh.
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    plainboy93

    [1011]Dec 3, 2006
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    bodhi108 wrote:

    (i know its a lot of stuff, but just trying to keep things fresh)

    So, ive watched the finale way too many times and now like everyone esle i'm trying to think bout the beggining of next season, most immediately: where will the gaang head out for on Appa? Are they gonna keep the earth king and Bosco (is that the bear's name?) where will they land the first night, and which direction are they heading?

    Although Katara did heal/save Aang he was unconcious at the very end and looked in need of serious attn or at least a bed/food/stable area to recoup.

    So where could the group head? here some of my thoughts:

    1. Flip a b***ch right back to BSS and start planning a counter-coup. Even though Azula and the Dai li??are in tech.??control the city, what about all the citizens?, what about the army/guard troops? Where the hell is Iroh? They could land in the lower ring, kidnap a dai li or two and get enough info to start planning something. Also, BSS is a huge city w/ 100,000's people, if their was an orgz. uprising against the Dai Li,??i doubt they would??have the manpowr to stop it, and i think iroh will constantly play a crucial role in the next season, so the gaang might try to seek him out right away, or at least when Aang is healed.

    2. Hakoda/Water tribe base. Hakoda said that the bay led to the outskirts of BSS, and all the warriors were sailing to battle some FN ships, so they could go there/drop of Aang the king and the bear and go aid the WT warriors.

    3. Back to E. Air temple. It seems pretty far away, but definitly a safe place to regroup/think/heal/get insight from the guru, find out the real deal w/ Aang and the Avatar state.

    4. Wilderness/boonies/random EK village: they could just land ASAP once they were far enough from BSS and start a discussing (heatedly knowing Toph and Sokka) about the best thing to do next, and take a breather/heal Aang more.

    5.Omahsu/Bumi: Even though its also in FN 'control'??of Omashu??Bumi said he was just waiting for the right moment to act, (seems alot like Taoism to me accoplish the most by doing the least) and now would seem like a good time to orgz a plan to re-take Omashu and BSS.

    6. North/South pole: Doesn't seem to likely to me. Both are very far and there are several closer places to land that are still safe from FN.

    PS: im just as shocked as all yall about Zuko's betrayal, but i def. think he either has a plan or will wake up and smell the onion/banana juice about how stupid he was to trust Azula, (those two words should never go together!) and to betray Iroh, and i think he'll redeem himself early in season 3.

    PPS i know its a bunch but ive been reading all the posts (almost 1,000 alright!) and trying to keep discussion going, cause who knows how long (a few months at the least) till the start of season three?


    just wondering...another place they could go to was Kyoshi...we still don't know what happened to the KW, maybe they were found n brought back to their village?
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    bodhi108

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    Yeah that's a good one i forgot, maybe they could see if Suki and the other KW made it back or learn what actually happened, and maybe they could dump the earth king (does he have a name or what?) and the bear and go from there.
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    nopperabo

    [1013]Dec 4, 2006
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    I'm not sure but it think the political situation is even more desperate than has been suggested. With Ba sing Se fallen and the Earth Kingdom's back broken. I think it is likely that the fire nation will return to the North pole with a navy?? 100x as big as the last one and conquer it by sheer numbers (remember it has been clear that the Earth kindom has been the major impediment to the fire nation. ) The same applies to Sokka's Fathers fleet. their going to get massacred.?? I think Aang and company are going to have to go back to the North pole (at least temporarily) to save it again.
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    kmavatar92

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    i dont know if anyone has said anything about this, but you know how iroh has the whole fire breathing dragon like powers thing going on with him? well doesnt zuko and ozai also have that power? i remeber from book 1 ch. 9 waterbending scroll, that when zuko got mad after uncle was telling him why they were changing direction, he looked up and blew fire into the air. ozai did the same thiung in book 1 ch. 7 avatar roku. when roku was explaining the power of solziens (sp?) comet, ozai held his head in the air and blew fire. can they all do it? or is iroh's power different? im confused.....

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    kmavatar92

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    ndnprincess wrote:
    I don't think we have to wait 6 months I been looking at the dates and season 2 started last march so I maybe end of Feb. or March

    o ok

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    kmavatar92

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    i know this is my third post in a row, but it just came to me. ok, is jet dead? cause toph(tophswome) said that he was lying when he said that he would be ok, and smellerbee was crying. hes a nice guy, and iwant to know if hes ok! katara looked pretty sad 2, we may have to start a new shipping folks....
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    Sole-Survivor23

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    kmavatar92 wrote:
    i know this is my third post in a row, but it just came to me. ok, is jet dead? cause toph(tophswome) said that he was lying when he said that he would be ok, and smellerbee was crying. hes a nice guy, and iwant to know if hes ok! katara looked pretty sad 2, we may have to start a new shipping folks....

    Its one way of killing of a character, I mean the whole Aang and Katara thing is growing stronger so there is no need for characters like Jet. But I thought he was awesome character and I hope he comes back.

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    bulefireskull

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    xlA_V_A_T_A_Rlx wrote:

    bulefireskull wrote:
    You know they always can get the water tribe to help I mean if the eclispe did happen wouldn't water benders powers like double in strenghth or something.

    Well the Firebenders would basically just be warriors (not so tough without your fire are ya?) I'm not sure about the waterbenders though. I guess they would since no sun, moon only.

    Yeah I thought about that and well why do they need the earth kingdom if there is a water tribe.
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    Sole-Survivor23

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    bulefireskull wrote:
    xlA_V_A_T_A_Rlx wrote:

    bulefireskull wrote:
    You know they always can get the water tribe to help I mean if the eclispe did happen wouldn't water benders powers like double in strenghth or something.

    Well the Firebenders would basically just be warriors (not so tough without your fire are ya?) I'm not sure about the waterbenders though. I guess they would since no sun, moon only.

    Yeah I thought about that and well why do they need the earth kingdom if there is a water tribe.

    Im guessing there isnt much left of the water tribe?

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    PrincessAura

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    kmavatar92 wrote:

    i dont know if anyone has said anything about this, but you know how iroh has the whole fire breathing dragon like powers thing going on with him? well doesnt zuko and ozai also have that power? i remeber from book 1 ch. 9 waterbending scroll, that when zuko got mad after uncle was telling him why they were changing direction, he looked up and blew fire into the air. ozai did the same thiung in book 1 ch. 7 avatar roku. when roku was explaining the power of solziens (sp?) comet, ozai held his head in the air and blew fire. can they all do it? or is iroh's power different? im confused.....


    All three men in the family can do it.The only real difference is that Zuko and Ozai have only been (seen) using at as a small but dramatic release for anger, as in just for show. Iroh concentrated it into a powerful blast/stream and uses it as an attack.
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