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    tvcrazy12

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    music4life17 wrote:
    tvcrazy12 wrote:
    daveshanFromGMU wrote:
    waterbender6025 wrote:
    SgtHydra wrote:

    Azuzhao

    *dissappear. shadows. quietly. into.*
    lol maybe they can meet up in the spirit world after azula gets pwned
    Actually, I see Azula as the one villian that won't die. Ozai, deffinately. Long Fang will eventually be killed. But, Azula won't die. I imagine that Zuko will end up beating her but, for whatever reason, not check to make sure that she is dead. Then, she will disappear all stealth-like. However, she may also end up secretly helping the Gaang right at the very end. Either way, she isn't going to die.

    Someone in the Gaang should die, though. Maybe Toph?

    how dare you suggest toph die! if anyone, kill zuko

    I highly doubt they'd kill off anyone in the gaang. To kill off Zuko at this point would be - in an essence - quite pointless. He has finally redeemed himself (even though Katara refuses to acknowledge that) and realized his mission to aid the Avatar in his duties. All that character development would go to waste. Plus the fangirls/boys would be livid.

    i know zuko's just my least favorite of the gaang. and dave, toph has grown plenty. she's had about as much as sokka.
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    Spacerac

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    tvcrazy12 wrote:
    zuko's just my least favorite of the gaang.
    I like Zuko but in my opinion he's highly overratted for a variety of reasons, because he has abs, because he has to choose between good and evil (so complicated :roll, when there's other excellent characters on the show (like Sokka! and Toph.)
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    tomtitan

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    Spacerac wrote:
    tvcrazy12 wrote:
    zuko's just my least favorite of the gaang.
    I like Zuko but in my opinion he's highly overratted for a variety of reasons, because he has abs, because he has to choose between good and evil (so complicated :roll, when there's other excellent characters on the show (like Sokka! and Toph.)
    i agree that he's overrated, but it's not his fault, it's because he has so many fangirls/boys. zuko is a great character, but just not great enough to obsess over.
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    Spacerac

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    tomtitan wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    tvcrazy12 wrote:
    zuko's just my least favorite of the gaang.
    I like Zuko but in my opinion he's highly overrated for a variety of reasons, because he has abs, because he has to choose between good and evil (so complicated ), when there's other excellent characters on the show (like Sokka! and Toph.)
    i agree that he's overrated, but it's not his fault, it's because he has so many fangirls/boys. zuko is a great character, but just not great enough to obsess over.
    Or to ship with Katara
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    music4life17

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    tvcrazy12 wrote:
    music4life17 wrote:
    tvcrazy12 wrote:
    daveshanFromGMU wrote:
    waterbender6025 wrote:
    SgtHydra wrote:

    Azuzhao

    *dissappear. shadows. quietly. into.*
    lol maybe they can meet up in the spirit world after azula gets pwned
    Actually, I see Azula as the one villian that won't die. Ozai, deffinately. Long Fang will eventually be killed. But, Azula won't die. I imagine that Zuko will end up beating her but, for whatever reason, not check to make sure that she is dead. Then, she will disappear all stealth-like. However, she may also end up secretly helping the Gaang right at the very end. Either way, she isn't going to die.

    Someone in the Gaang should die, though. Maybe Toph?

    how dare you suggest toph die! if anyone, kill zuko

    I highly doubt they'd kill off anyone in the gaang. To kill off Zuko at this point would be - in an essence - quite pointless. He has finally redeemed himself (even though Katara refuses to acknowledge that) and realized his mission to aid the Avatar in his duties. All that character development would go to waste. Plus the fangirls/boys would be livid.

    i know zuko's just my least favorite of the gaang. and dave, toph has grown plenty. she's had about as much as sokka.

    I knew that is what you meant as well. I was just adding my two cents.

    I agree. Toph has grown as a character. It's just hard to see at times since she is rather blunt and straight - forward.

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    Valin610

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    tvcrazy12 wrote:
    daveshanFromGMU wrote:

    tvcrazy12 wrote:
    and this is straight from an aunt wu/aang conversation: Aang: you didn't really see love in my future, did you? you just told me what i wanted to hear.

    Aunt Wu: i'm going to tell you a little secret, young airbender. just as you re-shaped those cloouds, you can re-shape your destiny.

    It was really nice of her to tell him what he wanted to hear again, wasn't it? You know, instead of giving him a palm reading, which wouldn't explode and would reveal that he actually had no love in his future.

    you just do not get it, do you? there is no evidence of zutara (that doesn't have to be twisted or interpreted. just plain evidence) IN THE SHOW!

    From what I remember, Aunt Wuu also said that she would marry a powerful bender. I recall Zuko being a lack-luster bender compared to Azula, Aang, and Toph... hmm...
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    music4life17

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    Spacerac wrote:
    tvcrazy12 wrote:
    zuko's just my least favorite of the gaang.
    I like Zuko but in my opinion he's highly overratted for a variety of reasons, because he has abs, because he has to choose between good and evil (so complicated :roll, when there's other excellent characters on the show (like Sokka! and Toph.)

    I think he's the more popular guy character because he is different than Aang and Sokka. Aang and Sokka were presented as more so straight forward characters. (in a way as "what you see is what you get") Zuko had a lot more to look into as far as his past and his burning (no pun intended) ambition when he sought to capture the Avatar. And now we are left to look to see if he will live up to his proclamation that he has indeed turned over a new leaf.

    That is my opinion and what I think. I'm sure it is different for others since we are all different. Tis all good.

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    Valin610 wrote:
    tvcrazy12 wrote:
    daveshanFromGMU wrote:

    tvcrazy12 wrote:
    and this is straight from an aunt wu/aang conversation: Aang: you didn't really see love in my future, did you? you just told me what i wanted to hear.

    Aunt Wu: i'm going to tell you a little secret, young airbender. just as you re-shaped those cloouds, you can re-shape your destiny.

    It was really nice of her to tell him what he wanted to hear again, wasn't it? You know, instead of giving him a palm reading, which wouldn't explode and would reveal that he actually had no love in his future.

    you just do not get it, do you? there is no evidence of zutara (that doesn't have to be twisted or interpreted. just plain evidence) IN THE SHOW!

    From what I remember, Aunt Wuu also said that she would marry a powerful bender. I recall Zuko being a lack-luster bender compared to Azula, Aang, and Toph... hmm...
    He learned lightning bending though so now he's more powerful, but when he was fighting against Katara, the commentary on that DVD said "Zuko is NOT a powerful bender." However, the Avatar is still a more powerful bender than Zuko is.
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    tvcrazy12

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    Spacerac wrote:
    Valin610 wrote:
    tvcrazy12 wrote:
    daveshanFromGMU wrote:

    tvcrazy12 wrote:
    and this is straight from an aunt wu/aang conversation: Aang: you didn't really see love in my future, did you? you just told me what i wanted to hear.

    Aunt Wu: i'm going to tell you a little secret, young airbender. just as you re-shaped those cloouds, you can re-shape your destiny.

    It was really nice of her to tell him what he wanted to hear again, wasn't it? You know, instead of giving him a palm reading, which wouldn't explode and would reveal that he actually had no love in his future.

    you just do not get it, do you? there is no evidence of zutara (that doesn't have to be twisted or interpreted. just plain evidence) IN THE SHOW!

    From what I remember, Aunt Wuu also said that she would marry a powerful bender. I recall Zuko being a lack-luster bender compared to Azula, Aang, and Toph... hmm...
    He learned lightning bending though so now he's more powerful, but when he was fighting against Katara, the commentary on that DVD said "Zuko is NOT a powerful bender." However, the Avatar is still a more powerful bender than Zuko is.
    he learned how to re-direct it. but after dobs, he might be able to do it. and he's not, compared to the other teenage benders. he's been bending the longest of all the teenagers.
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    tvcrazy12

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    tomtitan wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    tvcrazy12 wrote:
    zuko's just my least favorite of the gaang.
    I like Zuko but in my opinion he's highly overratted for a variety of reasons, because he has abs, because he has to choose between good and evil (so complicated :roll, when there's other excellent characters on the show (like Sokka! and Toph.)
    i agree that he's overrated, but it's not his fault, it's because he has so many fangirls/boys. zuko is a great character, but just not great enough to obsess over.
    i agree with what you two said, he's just not as awesome as the rest of the gaang. or azula.
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    tvcrazy12 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    Valin610 wrote:
    tvcrazy12 wrote:
    daveshanFromGMU wrote:

    tvcrazy12 wrote:
    and this is straight from an aunt wu/aang conversation: Aang: you didn't really see love in my future, did you? you just told me what i wanted to hear.

    Aunt Wu: i'm going to tell you a little secret, young airbender. just as you re-shaped those cloouds, you can re-shape your destiny.

    It was really nice of her to tell him what he wanted to hear again, wasn't it? You know, instead of giving him a palm reading, which wouldn't explode and would reveal that he actually had no love in his future.

    you just do not get it, do you? there is no evidence of zutara (that doesn't have to be twisted or interpreted. just plain evidence) IN THE SHOW!

    From what I remember, Aunt Wuu also said that she would marry a powerful bender. I recall Zuko being a lack-luster bender compared to Azula, Aang, and Toph... hmm...
    He learned lightning bending though so now he's more powerful, but when he was fighting against Katara, the commentary on that DVD said "Zuko is NOT a powerful bender." However, the Avatar is still a more powerful bender than Zuko is.
    he learned how to re-direct it. but after dobs, he might be able to do it. and he's not, compared to the other teenage benders. he's been bending the longest of all the teenagers.
    The longest? I'm not sure whom's been bending longer than whom.
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    Spacerac wrote:
    tvcrazy12 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    Valin610 wrote:
    tvcrazy12 wrote:
    daveshanFromGMU wrote:

    tvcrazy12 wrote:
    and this is straight from an aunt wu/aang conversation: Aang: you didn't really see love in my future, did you? you just told me what i wanted to hear.

    Aunt Wu: i'm going to tell you a little secret, young airbender. just as you re-shaped those cloouds, you can re-shape your destiny.

    It was really nice of her to tell him what he wanted to hear again, wasn't it? You know, instead of giving him a palm reading, which wouldn't explode and would reveal that he actually had no love in his future.

    you just do not get it, do you? there is no evidence of zutara (that doesn't have to be twisted or interpreted. just plain evidence) IN THE SHOW!

    From what I remember, Aunt Wuu also said that she would marry a powerful bender. I recall Zuko being a lack-luster bender compared to Azula, Aang, and Toph... hmm...
    He learned lightning bending though so now he's more powerful, but when he was fighting against Katara, the commentary on that DVD said "Zuko is NOT a powerful bender." However, the Avatar is still a more powerful bender than Zuko is.
    he learned how to re-direct it. but after dobs, he might be able to do it. and he's not, compared to the other teenage benders. he's been bending the longest of all the teenagers.
    The longest? I'm not sure whom's been bending longer than whom.
    well out of zuko,katara,azula,aang, and toph, he's the oldest and has ben the bending the longest. but he's the worst.
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    music4life17 wrote:

    Spacerac wrote:
    tvcrazy12 wrote:
    zuko's just my least favorite of the gaang.
    I like Zuko but in my opinion he's highly overratted for a variety of reasons, because he has abs, because he has to choose between good and evil (so complicated :roll, when there's other excellent characters on the show (like Sokka! and Toph.)

    I think he's the more popular guy character because he is different than Aang and Sokka. Aang and Sokka were presented as more so straight forward characters. (in a way as "what you see is what you get") Zuko had a lot more to look into as far as his past and his burning (no pun intended) ambition when he sought to capture the Avatar. And now we are left to look to see if he will live up to his proclamation that he has indeed turned over a new leaf.

    That is my opinion and what I think. I'm sure it is different for others since we are all different. Tis all good.

    Agreed.

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    tvcrazy12 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    tvcrazy12 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    Valin610 wrote:
    tvcrazy12 wrote:
    daveshanFromGMU wrote:

    tvcrazy12 wrote:
    and this is straight from an aunt wu/aang conversation: Aang: you didn't really see love in my future, did you? you just told me what i wanted to hear.

    Aunt Wu: i'm going to tell you a little secret, young airbender. just as you re-shaped those cloouds, you can re-shape your destiny.

    It was really nice of her to tell him what he wanted to hear again, wasn't it? You know, instead of giving him a palm reading, which wouldn't explode and would reveal that he actually had no love in his future.

    you just do not get it, do you? there is no evidence of zutara (that doesn't have to be twisted or interpreted. just plain evidence) IN THE SHOW!
    From what I remember, Aunt Wuu also said that she would marry a powerful bender. I recall Zuko being a lack-luster bender compared to Azula, Aang, and Toph... hmm...
    He learned lightning bending though so now he's more powerful, but when he was fighting against Katara, the commentary on that DVD said "Zuko is NOT a powerful bender." However, the Avatar is still a more powerful bender than Zuko is.
    he learned how to re-direct it. but after dobs, he might be able to do it. and he's not, compared to the other teenage benders. he's been bending the longest of all the teenagers.
    The longest? I'm not sure whom's been bending longer than whom.
    well out of zuko,katara,azula,aang, and toph, he's the oldest and has ben the bending the longest. but he's the worst.

    I can sort of agree with that. We all know that Toph, Azula and Katara are portrayed as hugely powerful and masterful of their bending abilities, but the guys?

    Aang is good. I don't think he's shown us his full potential yet. And Zuko.... the reason Zuko's been so lackluster is because of where his firebending was coming from (rage). Maybe he'll become more skillful, maybe he won't. Who knows? But the lightning redirection was definitely a step up for him.

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    tomtitan wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    tvcrazy12 wrote:
    zuko's just my least favorite of the gaang.
    I like Zuko but in my opinion he's highly overratted for a variety of reasons, because he has abs, because he has to choose between good and evil (so complicated :roll, when there's other excellent characters on the show (like Sokka! and Toph.)
    i agree that he's overrated, but it's not his fault, it's because he has so many fangirls/boys. zuko is a great character, but just not great enough to obsess over.
    I disagree, I won't consider Zuko underrated or overrated, he's just in a sweet spot of perfectly rated. Zuko has recieved the most character development, and he's as important, if not MOAR important, to the story than Aang.

    I would definetly consider Toph the most overrated character in the series. She gets sooo much attention from the fans, even tho she's a shallow, un-dynamic character. Almost everyone in the series has changed one way or the other, except her. She started off as a tough, "don't take no BS from anyone" bad@ss character, and that's what she still is, and that's what she will be at the end.

    The fact that she only get an average of around 1 line per episode proves this. I would like to say that they should kill off her character at the finale, but she's not even important enough to kill off anyways :/

    Edited on 04/10/2008 11:30pm
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    tomtitan

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    _Nalesnik_ wrote:

    tomtitan wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    tvcrazy12 wrote:
    zuko's just my least favorite of the gaang.
    I like Zuko but in my opinion he's highly overratted for a variety of reasons, because he has abs, because he has to choose between good and evil (so complicated :roll, when there's other excellent characters on the show (like Sokka! and Toph.)
    i agree that he's overrated, but it's not his fault, it's because he has so many fangirls/boys. zuko is a great character, but just not great enough to obsess over.
    I disagree, I won't consider Zuko underrated or overrated, he's just in a sweet spot of perfectly rated. Zuko has recieved the most character development, and he's as important, if not MOAR important, to the story than Aang.

    I would definetly consider Toph the most overrated character in the series. She gets sooo much attention from the fans, even tho she's a shallow, un-dynamic character. Almost everyone in the series has changed one way or the other, except her. She started off as a tough, "don't take no BS from anyone" bad@ss character, and that's what she still is, and that's what she will be at the end.

    The fact that she only get an average of around 1 line per episode proves this. I would like to say that they should kill off her character at the finale, but she's not even important enough to kill off anyways :/
    the reason she's not getting character development is because she doesn't need it. like you said, she started off as a tough 'don't take no BS from anyone' bad@ass character, and that's just perfect.

    besides, she does get character development, have you seen 'the runaway'?
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    tomtitan wrote:
    she's not getting character development is because she doesn't need it. like you said, she started off as a tough 'don't take no BS from anyone' bad@ass character, and that's just perfect. besides, she does get character development, have you seen 'the runaway'?
    That's why it's not as big of a deal to kill her off. Yeah, "The Runaway" showed us that she's willing to talk to her parents now, but that's all the personal growth we've seen other than the metal bending.

    Tvcrazy, Sokka has grown the most of anyone. Way more than even Zuzu. He went from a cocky, sexist, unskilled, wannabe who got Zukowned badly in the second episode to being a confident, open-minded, tactical and creative warrior who a master swordsman personally inducted into the white lotus society.

    Sokka's there to show that brains can be more important than magical bending. He's the one that they definately should not kill off.

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    daveshanFromGMU wrote:

    tomtitan wrote:
    she's not getting character development is because she doesn't need it. like you said, she started off as a tough 'don't take no BS from anyone' bad@ass character, and that's just perfect. besides, she does get character development, have you seen 'the runaway'?
    That's why it's not as big of a deal to kill her off. Yeah, "The Runaway" showed us that she's willing to talk to her parents now, but that's all the personal growth we've seen other than the metal bending.

    Tvcrazy, Sokka has grown the most of anyone. Way more than even Zuzu. He went from a cocky, sexist, unskilled, wannabe who got Zukowned badly in the second episode to being a confident, open-minded, tactical and creative warrior who a master swordsman personally inducted into the white lotus society.

    Sokka's there to show that brains can be more important than magical bending. He's the one that they definately should not kill off.

    good points about sokka.
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    Spacerac wrote:
    WiseLad wrote:
    bragolovesme wrote:
    im still tryin ta figure out why zutara isnt up there anyways i vote george even though i support zutara
    I didn't know Sokka was part of the Zutara ship and about the bending thread, I thought it was unpinned and than locked mostly because of the troll guy that keeps coming back with different accounts and who used once the name "son of god" or something like that, and the biggest flame war was against him
    No, it was all wiseone and brago and pokemononmon.
    no it wasnt ALL us a few other people were involved too. it was MOSTLY us not ALL us. and that reply where i said no u and you told me that you stopped readin after i typed no u. it was a long post explain why i have 19 accounts and how i DO have a life, but then i realized that it really doesnt matter what U think of me cause u havent nor will u ever, have any effect on my life. so i will continue to say u
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    WiseLad wrote:
    bragolovesme wrote:
    im still tryin ta figure out why zutara isnt up there anyways i vote george even though i support zutara
    I didn't know Sokka was part of the Zutara ship and about the bending thread, I thought it was unpinned and than locked mostly because of the troll guy that keeps coming back with different accounts and who used once the name "son of god" or something like that, and the biggest flame war was against him
    wen i was with one of my older accounts, most of the avatar community hated me i wont even tell yall who i am but it got to the point where people ignored me and reported me for saying hi O_o. but that was waaaaay back in 2006 so i wont even go there
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