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    tomtitan

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    Valin610 wrote:
    diamond428 wrote:

    ok im a firm believer of zutara its just ........beautfiul BUT i do see how at this point there is little chance but i mean who noes maybe something will happen in the enxt epis and katara and zuko get closer....or maybe even tho its sad aang dies and maybe a few years after the whole war is over zuko is fire lord or wutever and he meets katara again and then they rekindle wutever they had u never noe with avatar

    i just DO NOT WANT ZUKO with mai UGHHHHH SHES UGLY AND DULL zuko deserves a sweet and beatiful girl heck he can get with ty lee but NOOTTTT MAIII I will b soooooooooooo pissed they have nooooooooooooo chemistry !!!!!!!!1


    Shallowness; representing the majority of Zutara believers.
    i don't think it represents the majority, unfortunately it does represent quite a few.

    i need to talk to a sane zutarian. where's animeangel when you need her?
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    Valin610

    [1742]Apr 9, 2008
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    Spacerac wrote:
    tomtitan wrote:
    tvcrazy12 wrote:
    daveshanFromGMU wrote:
    DanSandwichBoy wrote:

    Personally, I'm one of the Kataangers who, IMHO, feels that Kataang is more likely, but accepts that Zutara always has a chance of happening in their lifetimes, and if the show pulls off Zutara in the series in a believable way, I'm OK with it. I feel bad when the Kataang extremists put down Zutarians as a whole calling them all stupid and closed-minded. There are stupid and closed-minded Zutarians, just as there are stupid and closed-minded Kataangers.

    And I get along well with the Zutarians who respect that Kataang has at least a chance of happening. Heck, I've even drawn people's Zutara spawns and got a Zutarian friend of mine on dA to create a Kataang one. I personally believe that Kataang will happen, but we're all entitled to our own opinions. I respect yours, please respect mine.

    Glad to hear that. Sorry, that I can't feel the same way, but I'm glad to hear that. I'm just too convinced that Zuko and Katara are going to end up together. Now, I'd never insult someone for thinking that Katara and Aang will wind up together, but I have to say that if Mike and Bryan give Katara to Aang and a lot of really creative, really good, really acceptable ways to get out of the AS conundrum aren't met, I'm going to think that it's a huge cop-out.

    Unless Jin is brought back and Zuko gets her, because Jin rocks. Then they can let Aang have Katara, I'd still want to see a good way out of the AS dilema, but I'd be ok with it.

    give me one piece of solid canon, zutara evidence, and i'll listen. and i don't mean something that has to be warped, and interpreted. just plain evidence. because kataang has plenty of it. face it, zutara was created for the sole purpose of adding depth to shipping, and some competition to kataang to interest it. to quote azula "You were never even a player."
    that's the perfect line to use when kataang wins. zutarian: how could zutara lose? i was so sure it would happen! kataanger: don't flatter yourself, you were never even a player.
    Oh, that would be so cold. You'd need ice for that cold burn. (lol, oxymoron)
    WiseLad wrote:
    tomtitan wrote:
    daveshanFromGMU wrote:
    tvcrazy12 wrote:
    give me one piece of solid canon, zutara evidence, and i'll listen. and i don't mean something that has to be warped, and interpreted. just plain evidence. because kataang has plenty of it. face it, zutara was created for the sole purpose of adding depth to shipping, and some competition to kataang to interest it. to quote azula "You were never even a player."
    Ok, Mike and Bryan have said that Katara is either going to be with Zuko or Aang. Well, she can't be with Aang for two reasons: One, Aunt Wu said that there was no love in his future. Two, he has to give her up to use the AS and he has to use the AS to beat Ozai. Therefore, since Katara can't be with Aang, she'll be with Zuko.

    no matter how many times we say that 'i don't see love in your future' =/= 'there is no love in your future', and 'you must let her go' =/= 'you can't love her' you're still going to use that same argument, aren't you?


    Tom....... that is his "Avatarish attachment", he "won't let go of it"

    otherwise, it would mean doubting Zutara in his mind
    ya'll stop picking on dave, now (), somebody's got to hold Zutara down!


    But can't we get one that actually brings an arguement to the table instead of misinterpretations and warped theories?
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    WiseLad

    [1743]Apr 9, 2008
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    Valin610 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    tomtitan wrote:
    tvcrazy12 wrote:
    daveshanFromGMU wrote:
    DanSandwichBoy wrote:

    Personally, I'm one of the Kataangers who, IMHO, feels that Kataang is more likely, but accepts that Zutara always has a chance of happening in their lifetimes, and if the show pulls off Zutara in the series in a believable way, I'm OK with it. I feel bad when the Kataang extremists put down Zutarians as a whole calling them all stupid and closed-minded. There are stupid and closed-minded Zutarians, just as there are stupid and closed-minded Kataangers.

    And I get along well with the Zutarians who respect that Kataang has at least a chance of happening. Heck, I've even drawn people's Zutara spawns and got a Zutarian friend of mine on dA to create a Kataang one. I personally believe that Kataang will happen, but we're all entitled to our own opinions. I respect yours, please respect mine.

    Glad to hear that. Sorry, that I can't feel the same way, but I'm glad to hear that. I'm just too convinced that Zuko and Katara are going to end up together. Now, I'd never insult someone for thinking that Katara and Aang will wind up together, but I have to say that if Mike and Bryan give Katara to Aang and a lot of really creative, really good, really acceptable ways to get out of the AS conundrum aren't met, I'm going to think that it's a huge cop-out.

    Unless Jin is brought back and Zuko gets her, because Jin rocks. Then they can let Aang have Katara, I'd still want to see a good way out of the AS dilema, but I'd be ok with it.

    give me one piece of solid canon, zutara evidence, and i'll listen. and i don't mean something that has to be warped, and interpreted. just plain evidence. because kataang has plenty of it. face it, zutara was created for the sole purpose of adding depth to shipping, and some competition to kataang to interest it. to quote azula "You were never even a player."
    that's the perfect line to use when kataang wins. zutarian: how could zutara lose? i was so sure it would happen! kataanger: don't flatter yourself, you were never even a player.
    Oh, that would be so cold. You'd need ice for that cold burn. (lol, oxymoron)
    WiseLad wrote:
    tomtitan wrote:
    daveshanFromGMU wrote:
    tvcrazy12 wrote:
    give me one piece of solid canon, zutara evidence, and i'll listen. and i don't mean something that has to be warped, and interpreted. just plain evidence. because kataang has plenty of it. face it, zutara was created for the sole purpose of adding depth to shipping, and some competition to kataang to interest it. to quote azula "You were never even a player."
    Ok, Mike and Bryan have said that Katara is either going to be with Zuko or Aang. Well, she can't be with Aang for two reasons: One, Aunt Wu said that there was no love in his future. Two, he has to give her up to use the AS and he has to use the AS to beat Ozai. Therefore, since Katara can't be with Aang, she'll be with Zuko.

    no matter how many times we say that 'i don't see love in your future' =/= 'there is no love in your future', and 'you must let her go' =/= 'you can't love her' you're still going to use that same argument, aren't you?


    Tom....... that is his "Avatarish attachment", he "won't let go of it"

    otherwise, it would mean doubting Zutara in his mind
    ya'll stop picking on dave, now (), somebody's got to hold Zutara down!


    But can't we get one that actually brings an arguement to the table instead of misinterpretations and warped theories?


    if lot of kataangers start saying "Aang is guaranteed, Zutara is dead, there is no evidence of it possibly happen"

    I will defend the "possibility that Zutara might happen"
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    GLM-2P

    [1744]Apr 9, 2008
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    WiseLad wrote:
    Valin610 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    tomtitan wrote:
    tvcrazy12 wrote:
    daveshanFromGMU wrote:
    DanSandwichBoy wrote:

    Personally, I'm one of the Kataangers who, IMHO, feels that Kataang is more likely, but accepts that Zutara always has a chance of happening in their lifetimes, and if the show pulls off Zutara in the series in a believable way, I'm OK with it. I feel bad when the Kataang extremists put down Zutarians as a whole calling them all stupid and closed-minded. There are stupid and closed-minded Zutarians, just as there are stupid and closed-minded Kataangers.

    And I get along well with the Zutarians who respect that Kataang has at least a chance of happening. Heck, I've even drawn people's Zutara spawns and got a Zutarian friend of mine on dA to create a Kataang one. I personally believe that Kataang will happen, but we're all entitled to our own opinions. I respect yours, please respect mine.

    Glad to hear that. Sorry, that I can't feel the same way, but I'm glad to hear that. I'm just too convinced that Zuko and Katara are going to end up together. Now, I'd never insult someone for thinking that Katara and Aang will wind up together, but I have to say that if Mike and Bryan give Katara to Aang and a lot of really creative, really good, really acceptable ways to get out of the AS conundrum aren't met, I'm going to think that it's a huge cop-out.

    Unless Jin is brought back and Zuko gets her, because Jin rocks. Then they can let Aang have Katara, I'd still want to see a good way out of the AS dilema, but I'd be ok with it.

    give me one piece of solid canon, zutara evidence, and i'll listen. and i don't mean something that has to be warped, and interpreted. just plain evidence. because kataang has plenty of it. face it, zutara was created for the sole purpose of adding depth to shipping, and some competition to kataang to interest it. to quote azula "You were never even a player."
    that's the perfect line to use when kataang wins. zutarian: how could zutara lose? i was so sure it would happen! kataanger: don't flatter yourself, you were never even a player.
    Oh, that would be so cold. You'd need ice for that cold burn. (lol, oxymoron)
    WiseLad wrote:
    tomtitan wrote:
    daveshanFromGMU wrote:
    tvcrazy12 wrote:
    give me one piece of solid canon, zutara evidence, and i'll listen. and i don't mean something that has to be warped, and interpreted. just plain evidence. because kataang has plenty of it. face it, zutara was created for the sole purpose of adding depth to shipping, and some competition to kataang to interest it. to quote azula "You were never even a player."
    Ok, Mike and Bryan have said that Katara is either going to be with Zuko or Aang. Well, she can't be with Aang for two reasons: One, Aunt Wu said that there was no love in his future. Two, he has to give her up to use the AS and he has to use the AS to beat Ozai. Therefore, since Katara can't be with Aang, she'll be with Zuko.

    no matter how many times we say that 'i don't see love in your future' =/= 'there is no love in your future', and 'you must let her go' =/= 'you can't love her' you're still going to use that same argument, aren't you?


    Tom....... that is his "Avatarish attachment", he "won't let go of it"

    otherwise, it would mean doubting Zutara in his mind
    ya'll stop picking on dave, now (), somebody's got to hold Zutara down!


    But can't we get one that actually brings an arguement to the table instead of misinterpretations and warped theories?


    if lot of kataangers start saying "Aang is guaranteed, Zutara is dead, there is no evidence of it possibly happen"

    I will defend the "possibility that Zutara might happen"


    OK I am a die hard Kataanger and I think that if Aaron, Mike and Bryan say "Katara end with Aang or Zuko in the end", I think the Zutara can happen ... This assertion is somewhat tarnished by my detector sarcasms in the commentary on the DVD was about to explode when Mike and Bryan laughed with the "They should not supposed to be together" makes me doubt terribly but "I think that Zutara can happen"
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    wiseone_777

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    I am Aunt Wo....Zutara cannot happen. Katara is too............Katarish............Zuko is........................Zukish........................The combination would be a lot of bloodbending. You see, Zuko is emo=cut arms. Katara would have to bloodbend to get the stains out, so that's not going to work well.
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    mangafreak5000

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    tomtitan wrote:
    Valin610 wrote:
    diamond428 wrote:

    ok im a firm believer of zutara its just ........beautfiul BUT i do see how at this point there is little chance but i mean who noes maybe something will happen in the enxt epis and katara and zuko get closer....or maybe even tho its sad aang dies and maybe a few years after the whole war is over zuko is fire lord or wutever and he meets katara again and then they rekindle wutever they had u never noe with avatar

    i just DO NOT WANT ZUKO with mai UGHHHHH SHES UGLY AND DULL zuko deserves a sweet and beatiful girl heck he can get with ty lee but NOOTTTT MAIII I will b soooooooooooo pissed they have nooooooooooooo chemistry !!!!!!!!1
    Shallowness; representing the majority of Zutara believers.
    i don't think it represents the majority, unfortunately it does represent quite a few. i need to talk to a sane zutarian. where's animeangel when you need her?

    IDK where animeangel is, I haven't seen her on any Avatar forums for a while... (icon= pretty hard to miss) I was only a Zutarian for about a month, but if you have any questions I can answer some of them...

    Okay, well here were my thoughts on Zutara previous to COD (that day the ship died in my eyes) So, I have to get the fact out of the way, Zuko and Katara would look adorable together. Moving on, Zuko and Katara are opposites, and opposites attract, right? They would complete each other, and heal the wounds between the Fire Nation and Water Tribe. Zuko is older then Aang, so they would probably more of a serious relationship. Yeah.. and amazingly. They do have a few points in common. They both lost a mother because of the Fire Nation, and they are both compassionate. (With Zuko it's not as obvious, but remember the village in Zuko Alone and when he and Jet stole food and gave it to their fellow passengers?)

    So, I THINK that's the basic argument, it might have evolved since the past season and a half.

    *don't worry, I'm still a Kataanger. I haven't had a relapse in my sanity JK!*

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    tvcrazy12

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    daveshanFromGMU wrote:
    tvcrazy12 wrote:
    give me one piece of solid canon, zutara evidence, and i'll listen. and i don't mean something that has to be warped, and interpreted. just plain evidence. because kataang has plenty of it. face it, zutara was created for the sole purpose of adding depth to shipping, and some competition to kataang to interest it. to quote azula "You were never even a player."
    Ok, Mike and Bryan have said that Katara is either going to be with Zuko or Aang. Well, she can't be with Aang for two reasons: One, Aunt Wu said that there was no love in his future. Two, he has to give her up to use the AS and he has to use the AS to beat Ozai. Therefore, since Katara can't be with Aang, she'll be with Zuko.
    Katara also said to zuko, i'll kill you. doesn't get more passionate than that and this is straight from an aunt wu/aang conversation:

    Aang: you didn't really see love in my future, did you? you just told me what i wanted to hear.
    Aunt Wu: i'm going to tell you a little secret, young airbender. just as you re-shaped those cloouds, you can re-shape your destiny. which makes your point useless.
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    goodgirl528

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    Both zutara and kataang are possible, kataang just has more proof.
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    daveshanFromGMU

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    tvcrazy12 wrote:
    and this is straight from an aunt wu/aang conversation: Aang: you didn't really see love in my future, did you? you just told me what i wanted to hear.

    Aunt Wu: i'm going to tell you a little secret, young airbender. just as you re-shaped those cloouds, you can re-shape your destiny.

    It was really nice of her to tell him what he wanted to hear again, wasn't it? You know, instead of giving him a palm reading, which wouldn't explode and would reveal that he actually had no love in his future.

    Edited on 04/09/2008 4:32pm
    Edited 2 total times.
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    wiseone_777

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    goodgirl528 wrote:
    Both zutara and kataang are possible, kataang just has more proof.
    Recreate your sig. KCA is done. And ATLA WON!!!!!!!!!
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    AllKnowingBeing

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    George just hast to happen but for some reason this site is filled with Tokka fans. Jeeze now I know how the Zutarains feel.

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    GLM-2P

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    daveshanFromGMU wrote:

    tvcrazy12 wrote:
    and this is straight from an aunt wu/aang conversation: Aang: you didn't really see love in my future, did you? you just told me what i wanted to hear.

    Aunt Wu: i'm going to tell you a little secret, young airbender. just as you re-shaped those cloouds, you can re-shape your destiny.

    It was really nice of her to tell him what he wanted to hear again, wasn't it? You know, instead of giving him a palm reading, which wouldn't explode and would reveal that he actually had no love in his future.



    Why all zutarians have enough cruelty and insensitivity to kill or sacrifice the happiness of a child of 12 years as Aang to achieve their purposes?

    God, this is an example of the extent of human cruelty

    When hope for the Zutara is stained by such thoughts is contaminated and becomes impure
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    Amari_07

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    GLM-2P wrote:
    Why all zutarians have enough cruelty and insensitivity to kill or sacrifice the happiness of a child of 12 years as Aang to achieve their purposes? God, this is an example of the extent of human cruelty When hope for the Zutara is stained by such thoughts is contaminated and becomes impure

    *sighs* newsflash: not all Zutarians are like that

    Edited on 04/09/2008 7:20pm
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    AnimeAngel90

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    mangafreak5000 wrote:
    tomtitan wrote:
    Valin610 wrote:
    diamond428 wrote:

    ok im a firm believer of zutara its just ........beautfiul BUT i do see how at this point there is little chance but i mean who noes maybe something will happen in the enxt epis and katara and zuko get closer....or maybe even tho its sad aang dies and maybe a few years after the whole war is over zuko is fire lord or wutever and he meets katara again and then they rekindle wutever they had u never noe with avatar

    i just DO NOT WANT ZUKO with mai UGHHHHH SHES UGLY AND DULL zuko deserves a sweet and beatiful girl heck he can get with ty lee but NOOTTTT MAIII I will b soooooooooooo pissed they have nooooooooooooo chemistry !!!!!!!!1
    Shallowness; representing the majority of Zutara believers.
    i don't think it represents the majority, unfortunately it does represent quite a few. i need to talk to a sane zutarian. where's animeangel when you need her?

    IDK where animeangel is, I haven't seen her on any Avatar forums for a while... (icon= pretty hard to miss) I was only a Zutarian for about a month, but if you have any questions I can answer some of them...

    Okay, well here were my thoughts on Zutara previous to COD (that day the ship died in my eyes) So, I have to get the fact out of the way, Zuko and Katara would look adorable together. Moving on, Zuko and Katara are opposites, and opposites attract, right? They would complete each other, and heal the wounds between the Fire Nation and Water Tribe. Zuko is older then Aang, so they would probably more of a serious relationship. Yeah.. and amazingly. They do have a few points in common. They both lost a mother because of the Fire Nation, and they are both compassionate. (With Zuko it's not as obvious, but remember the village in Zuko Alone and when he and Jet stole food and gave it to their fellow passengers?)

    So, I THINK that's the basic argument, it might have evolved since the past season and a half.

    *don't worry, I'm still a Kataanger. I haven't had a relapse in my sanity JK!*

    No, I'm still here. I just haven't posted for awhile, lol.

    I'm touched that you guys look to me when looking for a sane zutarian. Made me laugh when I read that, lol
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    GLM-2P

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    Amari_07 wrote:
    GLM-2P wrote:
    Why all zutarians have enough cruelty and insensitivity to kill or sacrifice the happiness of a child of 12 years as Aang to achieve their purposes? God, this is an example of the extent of human cruelty When hope for the Zutara is stained by such thoughts is contaminated and becomes impure

    *sighs* newsflash: not all Zutarians are like that



    Sorry!!, I do not want to generalize, it's just to let me take the momentary indignation, I have just read a review of another forum of a zutarian said: "If Aang refuses to let go Katara, see dead" ...

    And that made me hostile *apology*
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    SgtHydra

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    Azuzhao

    *dissappear. shadows. quietly. into.*

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    waterbender6025

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    SgtHydra wrote:

    Azuzhao

    *dissappear. shadows. quietly. into.*
    lol maybe they can meet up in the spirit world after azula gets pwned
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    tomtitan

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    SgtHydra wrote:

    Azuzhao

    *dissappear. shadows. quietly. into.*
    zhao's taken, by yue!
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    AnimeAngel90

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    tomtitan wrote:
    SgtHydra wrote:

    Azuzhao

    *dissappear. shadows. quietly. into.*
    zhao's taken, by yue!
    No, Yue's too nice for him. He and Azula deserve each other - the crazy firebenders, lol.
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    tomtitan

    [1760]Apr 10, 2008
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    AnimeAngel90 wrote:
    tomtitan wrote:
    SgtHydra wrote:

    Azuzhao

    *dissappear. shadows. quietly. into.*
    zhao's taken, by yue!
    No, Yue's too nice for him. He and Azula deserve each other - the crazy firebenders, lol.
    i have proof for zhue, it's fanart, but it's made by giancarlo volpe, so it must be canon!


    ***SPOILER***
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