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Long Feng: Master of Neutral Jing?

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    dark_aquatus

    [21]Nov 9, 2006
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    masterofaeons wrote:
    And that's the problem with that theory. If Long Feng had been a Neutral Jing Master, he wouldn't have rushed Appa - who had the upper hand at the time.


    i just think he did that because he thought Appa would be afraid of him. also Long Feng is an arrogant man, so maybe he underestimated Appa because of that.
    using Neutral Jing means that u wait till the best time to attack... Long Feng said to Appa: ''I can handle you by myself.'' This means that he thought HE had the upper hand instead of Appa. Waiting would have meant that Appa would have gained more time to think and maybe even fly away, and by that Long Feng might have lost this ''immaginable upper hand''.

    Missjudging a fight doesnt always mean that ur bad in mastering Neutral Jing.
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    Murraymuzz

    [22]Nov 9, 2006
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    He isn't a master of neutral jin, this is because he kept on attacking Aang and he never waited, all he did was try a different strategy to get Aang out of the city. If he does use neutral jin, it's most likely to be a strategy in his head and he doesn't know he's using neutral jin.
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    dark_aquatus

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    Murraymuzz wrote:
    He isn't a master of neutral jin, this is because he kept on attacking Aang and he never waited, all he did was try a different strategy to get Aang out of the city. If he does use neutral jin, it's most likely to be a strategy in his head and he doesn't know he's using neutral jin.


    ok, but thats not the point here. the point is, if he masters it or not, it doesnt matter if he knows he's using it or not...
    also, he said that a direct confrontation with Aang would be to dangerous. he didnt say that he doesnt think he'd win the fight, he just wanted to wait for a better moment with a higher chance of victory and succes. that sounds to a Neutral Jing strategy to me...
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    Lord-darkboy

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    do not forget there 85 jings god knows what he mastered
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    Murraymuzz

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    dark_aquatus wrote:
    Murraymuzz wrote:
    He isn't a master of neutral jin, this is because he kept on attacking Aang and he never waited, all he did was try a different strategy to get Aang out of the city. If he does use neutral jin, it's most likely to be a strategy in his head and he doesn't know he's using neutral jin.
    ok, but thats not the point here. the point is, if he masters it or not, it doesnt matter if he knows he's using it or not... also, he said that a direct confrontation with Aang would be to dangerous. he didnt say that he doesnt think he'd win the fight, he just wanted to wait for a better moment with a higher chance of victory and succes. that sounds to a Neutral Jing strategy to me...


    If he doesn't know he's using it he can't be a master of it, he can't practice it if he doesn't know what hes doing.
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    Murraymuzz

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    I'ts just like Sokka's Haiku's, he didn't know he was good at them, and he was okay at first but without practice he can't be a master.
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    dark_aquatus

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    i dont say hes a master, i say he masters it which is about the same as Momo's being cool and funny ... he doesnt practise it, he just IS.
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    Murraymuzz

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    So he masters it and yet is not a master of it??? that doesn't make sense.

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    dark_aquatus

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    Murraymuzz wrote:

    So he masters it and yet is not a master of it??? that doesn't make sense.


    it does if u think about it... u can master something without knowing about it.
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    Murraymuzz

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    dark_aquatus wrote:
    Murraymuzz wrote:

    So he masters it and yet is not a master of it??? that doesn't make sense.
    it does if u think about it... u can master something without knowing about it.


    Something can't be mastered if one doesn't know about the procedure to follow, Mastering something is about perfecting a technique, if he doesn't know the technique he cannot master it, i think you may mean he might be really good at it without knowing hes good at it.
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    dark_aquatus

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    srry to disagree, but he sees to master it perfectly when he's using the strategy...
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    Murraymuzz

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    Im not 100% sure that he has even used neutral jin. I don't think he intended on killing Jet.

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    dark_aquatus

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    Murraymuzz wrote:

    Im not 100% sure that he has even used neutral jin. I don't think he intended on killing Jet.


    pfff this is the second time that u dont seem to take the time to read the other posts before putting a one-line post in here.

    i already explained that he DID use Neutral Jing. earlier i posted: ''he said that a direct confrontation with Aang would be to dangerous. he didnt say that he doesnt think he'd win the fight, he just wanted to wait for a better moment with a higher chance of victory and succes. that sounds to a Neutral Jing strategy to me...''

    btw, killing Jet has nothing to do with this subject :s
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    l33tman92

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    That whole neutral jing thing was supposed to be in refrence to Toph. She listens to the vibrations of?? the??earth, then strikes. That is why she is Aang's earthbending teacher and not Long Feng.
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    dark_aquatus

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    l33tman92 wrote:
    That whole neutral jing thing was supposed to be in refrence to Toph. She listens to the vibrations of?? the??earth, then strikes. That is why she is Aang's earthbending teacher and not Long Feng.


    so? whats ur point? i mean, maybe if Long Feng wouldnt be such a bad guy, and Aang wouldnt have an earth bending teacher yet, they might have used him
    also, by telling that the whole Neutral Jing thing was supposed to be in refrence to Toph (and ofcourse Bomi) u dont prove that other people cant Master (or control) this strategy. appearently people over the entire world know about these strategies, because Aang also knew some of the Jings while he's just a 12 year old airbender. this makes it very likely that a lot of people control, master or just know about this strategy.
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    Murraymuzz

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    dark_aquatus wrote:
    Murraymuzz wrote:

    Im not 100% sure that he has even used neutral jin. I don't think he intended on killing Jet.
    pfff this is the second time that u dont seem to take the time to read the other posts before putting a one-line post in here. i already explained that he DID use Neutral Jing. earlier i posted: ''he said that a direct confrontation with Aang would be to dangerous. he didnt say that he doesnt think he'd win the fight, he just wanted to wait for a better moment with a higher chance of victory and succes. that sounds to a Neutral Jing strategy to me...'' btw, killing Jet has nothing to do with this subject :s


    No. He didn't want a right time to strike he wanted to send Aang away without any confrontation, that wasn't waiting for the right time to strike, and the Jet thing is about people saying that he waited to strike Jet when he just recated to Jet's attack.
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    dark_aquatus

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    Murraymuzz wrote:
    dark_aquatus wrote:
    Murraymuzz wrote:

    Im not 100% sure that he has even used neutral jin. I don't think he intended on killing Jet.
    pfff this is the second time that u dont seem to take the time to read the other posts before putting a one-line post in here. i already explained that he DID use Neutral Jing. earlier i posted: ''he said that a direct confrontation with Aang would be to dangerous. he didnt say that he doesnt think he'd win the fight, he just wanted to wait for a better moment with a higher chance of victory and succes. that sounds to a Neutral Jing strategy to me...'' btw, killing Jet has nothing to do with this subject :s


    No. He didn't want a right time to strike he wanted to send Aang away without any confrontation, that wasn't waiting for the right time to strike, and the Jet thing is about people saying that he waited to strike Jet when he just recated to Jet's attack.


    he wanted him away without a direct confrontation... why? because without a direct confrontation it would be less dangerous, which means less chance to fail. again, it comes down on waiting for the best moment and best way to get ur way. this could be killing/defeating someone, or just get rid of someone.

    Jet also proves this point, because he could have gotten the help or Jet before, but he didnt. he WAITED till they were just with the 3 of them, because he had more chance of not failing then.
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    Murraymuzz

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    Do you know what Neutral Jin is? It's about listening and waiting for the perfect moment to strike, not about winning??or??losing, they are results that can occur??with Neutral Jin.??Long Feng never waited for a time to strike, he never listened or studied Aang's weakness' he just attacked, which means he's uses a more Positive Jin technique.

    Sending Aang away like he was going to do is a Negative Jin tecnique, reatreating from??or??avoiding??battle.
    Edited on 11/09/2006 3:35pm
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    dark_aquatus wrote:
    masterofaeons wrote:
    And that's the problem with that theory. If Long Feng had been a Neutral Jing Master, he wouldn't have rushed Appa - who had the upper hand at the time.


    i just think he did that because he thought Appa would be afraid of him. also Long Feng is an arrogant man, so maybe he underestimated Appa because of that.
    using Neutral Jing means that u wait till the best time to attack... Long Feng said to Appa: ''I can handle you by myself.'' This means that he thought HE had the upper hand instead of Appa. Waiting would have meant that Appa would have gained more time to think and maybe even fly away, and by that Long Feng might have lost this ''immaginable upper hand''.

    Missjudging a fight doesnt always mean that ur bad in mastering Neutral Jing.


    appa flew towards long feng..he knew what he was gunna do..he knew he was going to pwn long feng..why would appa fly away after flying straight at long feng?
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