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Lion Turtle Didn't Come Out Of The Blue

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    Floweramon

    [1]Jul 21, 2008
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    At least not entirely (I admit expanding more on it would've been nice). Aang found info on him in Won Shi Tong's library, though the only thing we saw was a picture.

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    DrAvatar

    [2]Jul 21, 2008
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    Also in the Pilot and Sokka's Master it made appearences.
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    speechless8582

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    Hi there! Welcome to the Avatar forums! But there is already a thread like this on the first page, so there is no need to make another. Happy Avataring!
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    edmasterchaos

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    Floweramon wrote:

    At least not entirely (I admit expanding more on it would've been nice). Aang found info on him in Won Shi Tong's library, though the only thing we saw was a picture.

    Really? *goes to find pics*



    Well, darn you're right, we shoul've speculated more.
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    AvatarSensation

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    edmasterchaos wrote:
    Floweramon wrote:

    At least not entirely (I admit expanding more on it would've been nice). Aang found info on him in Won Shi Tong's library, though the only thing we saw was a picture.

    Really? *goes to find pics*



    Well, darn you're right, we shoul've speculated more.

    Yep. It was foreshadowing. That goes to show how unpredictable the finale really was. None of us really guessed that and I never thought of it much when I first saw that episode. (210-The Library)
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    fire_wheels

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    also goes to show that everything was planned and thought-out from the very beginning

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    picaboomman

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    notice there were other ones in the backround

    maybe they are like the dragons and got hunted for glory or something
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    aalaois

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    I thought the lion-turtle had a sort of deity-like symbolism about him. the island on the turtle back reminded me of the eastern myth of the whole world being on the back of a turtle, and I saw that island as a sort of symbol for the whole world itself. if the avatar is the incarnation of the spirit of the world, this makes sense somehow. the lion part made me think of Christian symbolism with Jesus as Lion, or you know like in Narnia with Aslan the lion, and it seemed to me that this was sort of a symbol of a creator of the world itself... he did say that before the elements were bended, the lionturtles bent energies; it seemd to me that indicated that they were the original creators of the elements and the element benders themselves.

    now, when they were tracking aang there was no scent anywhere in the whole world... but he also wasn't in the spirit world... that part is unclear to me but it indicates to me that this lion turtle is more than just a badger mole or a sky bison... he's probably some type of spirit (the way the Owl spirit appears in corporal form or how the moon and ocean spirits live in the physical world) and that being on him meant being completely disconnected from the world... by being on something that symbolized the whole world itself.

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    dannysgal

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    DrAvatar wrote:
    Also in the Pilot and Sokka's Master it made appearences.

    it does? Where?

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    AvatarSensation

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    aalaois wrote:

    I thought the lion-turtle had a sort of deity-like symbolism about him. the island on the turtle back reminded me of the eastern myth of the whole world being on the back of a turtle, and I saw that island as a sort of symbol for the whole world itself. if the avatar is the incarnation of the spirit of the world, this makes sense somehow. the lion part made me think of Christian symbolism with Jesus as Lion, or you know like in Narnia with Aslan the lion, and it seemed to me that this was sort of a symbol of a creator of the world itself... he did say that before the elements were bended, the lionturtles bent energies; it seemd to me that indicated that they were the original creators of the elements and the element benders themselves.

    now, when they were tracking aang there was no scent anywhere in the whole world... but he also wasn't in the spirit world... that part is unclear to me but it indicates to me that this lion turtle is more than just a badger mole or a sky bison... he's probably some type of spirit (the way the Owl spirit appears in corporal form or how the moon and ocean spirits live in the physical world) and that being on him meant being completely disconnected from the world... by being on something that symbolized the whole world itself.


    That makes A LOT of sense. Infact, in the Sozin's Comet book (which I just got now) Bryke says that the lion turtles are so ancient that they are basically as old as the Earth, therefore, the Shirshu could not sense Aang because his scent was drowned out by the scent of the Earth itself.
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    AvatarSensation wrote:
    aalaois wrote:

    I thought the lion-turtle had a sort of deity-like symbolism about him. the island on the turtle back reminded me of the eastern myth of the whole world being on the back of a turtle, and I saw that island as a sort of symbol for the whole world itself. if the avatar is the incarnation of the spirit of the world, this makes sense somehow. the lion part made me think of Christian symbolism with Jesus as Lion, or you know like in Narnia with Aslan the lion, and it seemed to me that this was sort of a symbol of a creator of the world itself... he did say that before the elements were bended, the lionturtles bent energies; it seemd to me that indicated that they were the original creators of the elements and the element benders themselves.

    now, when they were tracking aang there was no scent anywhere in the whole world... but he also wasn't in the spirit world... that part is unclear to me but it indicates to me that this lion turtle is more than just a badger mole or a sky bison... he's probably some type of spirit (the way the Owl spirit appears in corporal form or how the moon and ocean spirits live in the physical world) and that being on him meant being completely disconnected from the world... by being on something that symbolized the whole world itself.


    That makes A LOT of sense. Infact, in the Sozin's Comet book (which I just got now) Bryke says that the lion turtles are so ancient that they are basically as old as the Earth, therefore, the Shirshu could not sense Aang because his scent was drowned out by the scent of the Earth itself.

    good catch. they really are brilliant.
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    dannysgal wrote:

    DrAvatar wrote:
    Also in the Pilot and Sokka's Master it made appearences.

    it does? Where?



    Well in Sokka's master Master Piandao makes a reference to him being "as something as a Lion-Turtle"
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    hkulka2974

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    cdkee wrote:
    dannysgal wrote:

    DrAvatar wrote:
    Also in the Pilot and Sokka's Master it made appearences.

    it does? Where?

    Well in Sokka's master Master Piandao makes a reference to him being "as something as a Lion-Turtle"

    i just watched it and piando said that sokka had a heart as strong as a lion turtle

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    4nationfury

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    And we see a statue of a Lion Turtle in Sokka's Master as well

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    speechless8582

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    4nationfury wrote:

    And we see a statue of a Lion Turtle in Sokka's Master as well

    woah, good catch!
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    speechless8582 wrote:
    4nationfury wrote:

    And we see a statue of a Lion Turtle in Sokka's Master as well

    woah, good catch!

    amazing catch
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    speechless8582 wrote:
    4nationfury wrote:

    And we see a statue of a Lion Turtle in Sokka's Master as well

    woah, good catch!
    Thye were throwing this in our faces the whole time!!
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    speechless8582

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    gilvatar wrote:
    speechless8582 wrote:
    4nationfury wrote:

    And we see a statue of a Lion Turtle in Sokka's Master as well

    woah, good catch!
    Thye were throwing this in our faces the whole time!!
    how did we miss that?
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    asrealasitgets

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    AvatarSensation wrote:
    aalaois wrote:

    I thought the lion-turtle had a sort of deity-like symbolism about him. the island on the turtle back reminded me of the eastern myth of the whole world being on the back of a turtle, and I saw that island as a sort of symbol for the whole world itself. if the avatar is the incarnation of the spirit of the world, this makes sense somehow. the lion part made me think of Christian symbolism with Jesus as Lion, or you know like in Narnia with Aslan the lion, and it seemed to me that this was sort of a symbol of a creator of the world itself... he did say that before the elements were bended, the lionturtles bent energies; it seemd to me that indicated that they were the original creators of the elements and the element benders themselves.

    now, when they were tracking aang there was no scent anywhere in the whole world... but he also wasn't in the spirit world... that part is unclear to me but it indicates to me that this lion turtle is more than just a badger mole or a sky bison... he's probably some type of spirit (the way the Owl spirit appears in corporal form or how the moon and ocean spirits live in the physical world) and that being on him meant being completely disconnected from the world... by being on something that symbolized the whole world itself.


    That makes A LOT of sense. Infact, in the Sozin's Comet book (which I just got now) Bryke says that the lion turtles are so ancient that they are basically as old as the Earth, therefore, the Shirshu could not sense Aang because his scent was drowned out by the scent of the Earth itself.


    I want to know how the lionturtle knew that Aang needed advice and how the lionturtle sensed that from Aang.
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    OrangeOctopi

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    And in the opening theme, that statue Aang slams into, Could that be a statue of a lion turtle?
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