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Leading up to the 2nd book finale(You can still talk about the 1st finale)

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    avataraang113

    [1]Sep 1, 2008
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    okay....so what do you think about the 2nd season finale hype....like, how well do think they lead the gaang into the finale??? ya know??? okay...heres what i think:

    I think they did a splendid job leading up to the second season finale. It was planned out very well. All the characters have been completely introduced, and some new characters like Azula, Ty Lee, and Mai and others. I like it how it was all themed over the avatar state. All I can say is that it was brilliantly planned!

    Discuss please...

    Edited on 09/01/2008 9:08pm
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    isabelwhatx

    [2]Sep 1, 2008
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    I think everyone can agree the 1st season was much weaker than the other two. But the writers had a lot to introduce to the viewers, so they couldn't really focus on that as much.
    Edited on 09/01/2008 4:23pm
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    avataraang113

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    isabelwhatx wrote:
    I think everyone can agree the 1st season was much weaker than the other two. But the writers had a lot to introduce to the viewers, so they couldn't really focus on that as much.

    ya...that whole first season was like...

    "here are the characters....and here is their character development"

    ahah...am i right?

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    youtube_tv

    [4]Sep 1, 2008
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    the first season was the test season and when it turned out popular, they made the second season much more hyped and then the third season the most hyped
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    kratosgod69

    [5]Sep 1, 2008
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    The first season really couldnt have had much hype for the finale. I mean, all it was was HERE IS NORTH POLE. HERE IS ZHAO. BANG BANG BANG BANG. Whereas COD had Zuko development, Dai Li conspiracy, Avatar State, Azula is a Kyoshi Warrior, etc.
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    Water78

    [6]Sep 1, 2008
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    season one wasnt that big and wasnt promoted very well. Once i saw avatar being promoted on Mtv
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    avataraang113

    [7]Sep 1, 2008
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    kratosgod69 wrote:
    The first season really couldnt have had much hype for the finale. I mean, all it was was HERE IS NORTH POLE. HERE IS ZHAO. BANG BANG BANG BANG. Whereas COD had Zuko development, Dai Li conspiracy, Avatar State, Azula is a Kyoshi Warrior, etc.

    i understand your opinion about the CoD...but the 1st season finale had alot of action if you think about it...

    The first avatar state battel.... (except the one in The Avatar Returns and the finale one is helpd by a spirit)

    the first and only lunar eclipse

    alot of action

    and alot of new characters...

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    kratosgod69

    [8]Sep 1, 2008
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    The battle at the end of SOTN was moreso an ambush...There have been very few avatar state battles in the series, so Ic an respect that opinion... Who are the new characters you speak of that werent introduced in other episodes?
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    avataraang113

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    kratosgod69 wrote:
    The battle at the end of SOTN was moreso an ambush...There have been very few avatar state battles in the series, so Ic an respect that opinion... Who are the new characters you speak of that werent introduced in other episodes?

    well....i guess 218-220 was yue, paku, and the chief....he didnt have a big role...but still...its a whole entire city!!!! thats pretty important

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    kratosgod69

    [10]Sep 1, 2008
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    Oh I thought you were just talking about Siege of the North. Yeah, Yue and Pakku are important but Chief Arnook did very little.
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    avataraang113

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    kratosgod69 wrote:
    Oh I thought you were just talking about Siege of the North. Yeah, Yue and Pakku are important but Chief Arnook did very little.

    well....originally i meant 19-20 but for yue and paku....18 was an exception...

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    Jackson5050

    [12]Sep 1, 2008
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    I have a special spot in my heart for Book One. Everyone remembers Book Three because it just ended and Book Two seems to be everyone's favorite Book. I feel as if Book One is the forgotten Book. Anyways, I thought Book One's progression was leading to the NWT. It was such a satisfying moment when the found the waterbenders in the first part of 1-18.
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    Axrendale

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    I actually loved Book 1. I will always think of it as clasical Avatar. It has a certain quality to it. I love all three of the seasons equally - except for book 3, which had the epic finale. I suppose book 2 gets a boost above B1 as well, because it introduced Azula...

    But anyway, B1 was great, and more often than not, epic. Think "The Southern Air Temple", "Jet", "The Storm", "The Blue Spirit", and a number of other true masterpieces that caused many to fall in love with this series.

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    isabelwhatx

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    Even though Book 1 is my least favourite, I still enjoy it ridiculously. Things went slowly because the story line was being introduced.
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    avataraang113

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    isabelwhatx wrote:
    Even though Book 1 is my least favourite, I still enjoy it ridiculously. Things went slowly because the story line was being introduced.

    ya...okay....now on to the second season....how well do you think they lead the gaang up to the finale for the second season????

    u are still allowed to post about the 1st season

    Edited on 09/01/2008 9:00pm
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    Pablo_808

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    avataraang113 wrote:

    isabelwhatx wrote:
    Even though Book 1 is my least favourite, I still enjoy it ridiculously. Things went slowly because the story line was being introduced.

    ya...okay....now on to the second season....how well do you think they lead the gaang up to the finale for the second season????

    u are still allowed to post about the 1st season

    The build-up for the Season 2 finale was awesome! Plenty of drama and suspense and twist cliffhanger endings. Who doesn't like that stuff?!

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    FireLordZuko93

    [17]Sep 2, 2008
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    Season 2 accually wasn't my favorite book. I liked book 3 a little better. With the whole "gotta see the earth king" thing was just not my favorite. And they spent almost half the season looking for Appa. The final was awesome though. But that cliffhanger had me almost mad after a few weeks.
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    powmaster

    [18]Sep 2, 2008
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    Book 2 was really a transition point in the series. Throughout all of Book 1(which I still adore), the plot was Aang had to learn all four elements to defeat Fire Lord Ozai.

    Book 1 had a much simpler plot and build-up than the other Book 2 because:
    A) This distance between the North and South Pole was much farther than the distance the Gaang had to travel in the Earth Kingdom. Therefore, the Gaang could not spend as much time in one place as they could in Book 2. The was less time to develop an intricate sup-plot(such as the conspiracy in Ba Sing Se). There were 8 episodes in Book 2 where the Gaang was in Ba Sing Se, The Drill through The Crossroads of Destiny. The Gaang never had to travel extremely far distances in Book 2, leaving a chance for several story arcs. In Book 1, the Gaang had to travel across the entire world.

    B) In Book 1, the Gaang always had a destination, which was the North Pole. The only place to find a Waterbending master was at the North Pole. For most of the first half of Book 2, the Gaang wasn't going to any specific place (Except Omashu, 201-203). Unlike the Water Tribes, a bending master could be found anywhere in the Earth Kingdom. After Toph joined the group, the Gaang had nowhere to go. The introduction of a new plot mid-season was necessary, unlike in Book 1.

    C) The turning point of the series was The Library, where the solar eclipse was discovered. Instead of the plot that Aang had to learn all four elements, it was discovered that there was a "shortcut" to restoring balance. Aang no longer had to learn the elements, all he had to do was show up during the eclipse and take out the Fire Lord while he had no power. This discovery gave the Gaang a place to go, Ba Sing Se, even though it was not that far away(the actually trip to Ba Sing Se only took 3 episodes). Because of the new plot, Book 2 became much more complicated.

    D) The Water Tribes were not that important to the war anymore, mainly because it was the smallest group (besides the Air Nomads). The Earth Kingdom, on the other hand, was the largest and held much more importance to the war. A conspiracy in the Earth Kingdom meant a lot considering it was the only wall (no pun intended) between the Fire Nation and victory in the war. Ba Sing Se was more important in terms of size and army than the Northern Water Tribe.

    E) Both Book 1 and Book 2 had two kinds of villains: one that is developed over the course of the season, and one that is not really developed. Zuko and Azula were the developed villains of Books 1 and 2, respectively. Zhao and Long Feng were the not really developed villains of Books 1 and 2. Zuko and Azula were both interesting characters in each of their roles in their books. The same can not be said for Zhao and Long Feng, however. Zhao goal was not as interesting as Long Feng's goal. All Zhao wanted to do was kill Zuko and gain infinite fame for himself. Long Feng wanted complete control of Ba Sing Se, and he executed his plan in an interesting way. Plus, Long Feng's "cool" factor was raised by the fact that he had awesome Dai Li agents. Long Feng's character really helped build up the the finale.

    These reasons show the fact of why it was nearly impossible for there to be a complicated sub-plot for Book 1, but why it fit well and was necessary in Book 2. Sorry for the long post

    Edited on 09/02/2008 7:07am
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    Jackson5050

    [19]Sep 2, 2008
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    No need to apologize. I agree with almost everything in your post. In point E you touched on some of the reasons as to why Long Feng is one of my favorite characters. He always left me wondering whether he truly thought Ba Sing Se was a utopia and that he was doing the right thing, or whether he was simply interested in power.
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    isabelwhatx

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    FireLordZuko93 wrote:
    Season 2 accually wasn't my favorite book. I liked book 3 a little better. With the whole "gotta see the earth king" thing was just not my favorite. And they spent almost half the season looking for Appa. The final was awesome though. But that cliffhanger had me almost mad after a few weeks.

    It's a close tie between Book 3 and Book 2 but Book 2 prevailed in the end. I just like the character development. Book 1 was just starting off and Book 3 was wrapping it up. Book 2 had a lot about Aang and Zuko which interested me.
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