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katara or azula

who would win in a showdown between katara and azula?

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    blazerperry29

    [41]Dec 20, 2006
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    .......... and i just missed a big discussion on what i just posted
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    djdfire

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    blazerperry29 wrote:

    confucioussayhi wrote:
    UGamer08 wrote:
    I dislike (and called it from a mile away) that the creators just had to make it so that she on par with her. I honestly got nothing against her, but until we actually see her doing some training, at all, the only people who should be able to go toe to toe with Azula are Toph (der), Iroh, Aang, and if he trains had enough (we which actually see him do once in a awhile) Zuko. Seriously I'm all for equality and that stuff but fail to see why they have to try so hard to make it seem that they're all on the same level. Lets face it, some are stronger or can be considered to be stronger than others. Best example Toph, goes without saying that she's the best on the team.
    Anybody could pwn Katara. I don't hate Katara, she is actually a good character. She is a great waterbender. And there's the kink. She is a waterbender. If there was a large pool Behind a waterbender and Lots of ground beheath an earthbender the earthbender would win. The greatest waterbender couldn't beat a novice earthbender. They might be able to beat a master firebender(Azula is not the greatest firebender) such as Azula. But waterbending is defintely the weakest bending. At least with airbending you can blow people away. The creators fix these fights for the sake of storyline, nothing else. Azula can beat Katara easy. Azula, however is not the greatest bender in the Avatar world. Almost anyone else could beat her. Iroh, Jeong Jeong, Toph, Aang(If the creators would stop fixing fights!), Bumi, Long Feng, hell, Ty lee could. So I'm not sticking up for Azula.

    whoa whoa whoa... waterbending is NOT the weakest element. water can double as earthbending because you can freeze the water into blocks of ice. and you can surround someone in water and freeze the water. water itself can be morphed into anything, so it's also the most versatile element.

    I agree with you. And besides a waterbender can control a person's body, rendering them helpless. And also no element is stronger then the other, It DEPENDS ON THE BENDER!??Don't talk about what you don't know about.??And yes, master??waterbender can beat a novice earthbender because their skill and knowledge is stronger and know a lot more moves than a novice earthbender.

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    blazerperry29 wrote:

    confucioussayhi wrote:
    UGamer08 wrote:
    I dislike (and called it from a mile away) that the creators just had to make it so that she on par with her. I honestly got nothing against her, but until we actually see her doing some training, at all, the only people who should be able to go toe to toe with Azula are Toph (der), Iroh, Aang, and if he trains had enough (we which actually see him do once in a awhile) Zuko. Seriously I'm all for equality and that stuff but fail to see why they have to try so hard to make it seem that they're all on the same level. Lets face it, some are stronger or can be considered to be stronger than others. Best example Toph, goes without saying that she's the best on the team.
    Anybody could pwn Katara. I don't hate Katara, she is actually a good character. She is a great waterbender. And there's the kink. She is a waterbender. If there was a large pool Behind a waterbender and Lots of ground beheath an earthbender the earthbender would win. The greatest waterbender couldn't beat a novice earthbender. They might be able to beat a master firebender(Azula is not the greatest firebender) such as Azula. But waterbending is defintely the weakest bending. At least with airbending you can blow people away. The creators fix these fights for the sake of storyline, nothing else. Azula can beat Katara easy. Azula, however is not the greatest bender in the Avatar world. Almost anyone else could beat her. Iroh, Jeong Jeong, Toph, Aang(If the creators would stop fixing fights!), Bumi, Long Feng, hell, Ty lee could. So I'm not sticking up for Azula.

    whoa whoa whoa... waterbending is NOT the weakest element. water can double as earthbending because you can freeze the water into blocks of ice. and you can surround someone in water and freeze the water. water itself can be morphed into anything, so it's also the most versatile element.

    I agree with you. And besides a waterbender can control a person's body, rendering them helpless. And also no element is stronger then the other, It DEPENDS ON THE BENDER!??Don't talk about what you don't know about.??And yes, master??waterbender can beat a novice earthbender because their skill and knowledge is stronger and know a lot more moves than a novice earthbender.

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    djdfire

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    blazerperry29 wrote:

    confucioussayhi wrote:
    UGamer08 wrote:
    I dislike (and called it from a mile away) that the creators just had to make it so that she on par with her. I honestly got nothing against her, but until we actually see her doing some training, at all, the only people who should be able to go toe to toe with Azula are Toph (der), Iroh, Aang, and if he trains had enough (we which actually see him do once in a awhile) Zuko. Seriously I'm all for equality and that stuff but fail to see why they have to try so hard to make it seem that they're all on the same level. Lets face it, some are stronger or can be considered to be stronger than others. Best example Toph, goes without saying that she's the best on the team.
    Anybody could pwn Katara. I don't hate Katara, she is actually a good character. She is a great waterbender. And there's the kink. She is a waterbender. If there was a large pool Behind a waterbender and Lots of ground beheath an earthbender the earthbender would win. The greatest waterbender couldn't beat a novice earthbender. They might be able to beat a master firebender(Azula is not the greatest firebender) such as Azula. But waterbending is defintely the weakest bending. At least with airbending you can blow people away. The creators fix these fights for the sake of storyline, nothing else. Azula can beat Katara easy. Azula, however is not the greatest bender in the Avatar world. Almost anyone else could beat her. Iroh, Jeong Jeong, Toph, Aang(If the creators would stop fixing fights!), Bumi, Long Feng, hell, Ty lee could. So I'm not sticking up for Azula.

    whoa whoa whoa... waterbending is NOT the weakest element. water can double as earthbending because you can freeze the water into blocks of ice. and you can surround someone in water and freeze the water. water itself can be morphed into anything, so it's also the most versatile element.

    I agree with you. And besides a waterbender can control a person's body, rendering them helpless. And also no element is stronger then the other, It DEPENDS ON THE BENDER!??Don't talk about what you don't know about.??And yes, master??waterbender can beat a novice earthbender because their skill and knowledge is stronger and know a lot more moves than a novice earthbender.

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    tico1125 wrote:
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    They didn't show everything with Pakku. If they did, we would have had another episode based around it. The main purpose of those little training meets were to be based around the fact that Pakku IS training Katara, but they didn't have enough time, nor need to, show us everything. I mean c'mon even with Aang, we only saw 1 true episode of Toph teaching him and he seems to have gotten the hang of it..its around the same basis. Anyway, I chose Katara even though I think, like everyone else said, its based upon the setting. I think they both are one of the best of their kind. (Considering their age) IF they were to fight again I'm sure it will be better because in that fight Azula didn't use any lightning moves against Katara (even before Katara had her wrapped up). Despite this, I think they are bothed equally strong for their own element.

    The above is something I was going to point out too.?? You see Aang struggle with Earthbending in Bitter Work and then by the end of the season he molding rock around his body and doing a lot of things that Toph can.?? Pakku said that Katara picked everthing up quickly.?? He considered her a master.?? You asked why Aang did not pickup on the the philosphy that Katara learned.?? My answer to that is simply look how he fooled around with the training as it was.?? Aang holds back on his power because he is very innocent in his nature.?? If he really wanted to I am sure he could have taken out Azula and Zuko easily.?? Think about it for a moment, in the second episode of the first season Aang went into the Avatar State and controlled the water better than Katara did at that time and Zuko stood no chance.?? Then with the Avatar State episode he pretty much leveled General Fong and his base.?? Now he let his guard down in the finale and that was how Azula got to him but I doubt that is going to happen again.?? Katara is a natural when it comes to waterbending.?? Just the same as Azula being a natural in fire bending.?? But it comes down to the 2 different element types that I said earlier.?? One is energy and the other is substance.

    I know, I know, I just trying to find ways to say that Azula should win because in my opinion, like I said a billion times, I hate how they seemed to have??overdone Katara. I mean, they made her strong, smart, pretty, a powerful bender, the mature one, she lost her mother, but instead of losing it like most people would have done, she was able to??overcome that without some harsh affect??on her personality, this doesn't happen in reality and it just p*sses me off...I see your points and??I realized them too,??it's just, what I'm trying to say is not that it doesn't make sense that her character would have become advanced, I'm guess I'm saying I don't like how they made her so advanced on top of everything else; it's annoying. If they suddenly took Katara out of the show (I know it won't happen though) I wouldn't miss her.

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    azulaxjet

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    adidaZuko wrote:

    tico1125 wrote:
    xlA_V_A_T_A_Rlx wrote:
    They didn't show everything with Pakku. If they did, we would have had another episode based around it. The main purpose of those little training meets were to be based around the fact that Pakku IS training Katara, but they didn't have enough time, nor need to, show us everything. I mean c'mon even with Aang, we only saw 1 true episode of Toph teaching him and he seems to have gotten the hang of it..its around the same basis. Anyway, I chose Katara even though I think, like everyone else said, its based upon the setting. I think they both are one of the best of their kind. (Considering their age) IF they were to fight again I'm sure it will be better because in that fight Azula didn't use any lightning moves against Katara (even before Katara had her wrapped up). Despite this, I think they are bothed equally strong for their own element.

    The above is something I was going to point out too. You see Aang struggle with Earthbending in Bitter Work and then by the end of the season he molding rock around his body and doing a lot of things that Toph can. Pakku said that Katara picked everthing up quickly. He considered her a master. You asked why Aang did not pickup on the the philosphy that Katara learned. My answer to that is simply look how he fooled around with the training as it was. Aang holds back on his power because he is very innocent in his nature. If he really wanted to I am sure he could have taken out Azula and Zuko easily. Think about it for a moment, in the second episode of the first season Aang went into the Avatar State and controlled the water better than Katara did at that time and Zuko stood no chance. Then with the Avatar State episode he pretty much leveled General Fong and his base. Now he let his guard down in the finale and that was how Azula got to him but I doubt that is going to happen again. Katara is a natural when it comes to waterbending. Just the same as Azula being a natural in fire bending. But it comes down to the 2 different element types that I said earlier. One is energy and the other is substance.

    I know, I know, I just trying to find ways to say that Azula should win because in my opinion, like I said a billion times, I hate how they seemed to have overdone Katara. I mean, they made her strong, smart, pretty, a powerful bender, the mature one, she lost her mother, but instead of losing it like most people would have done, she was able to overcome that without some harsh affect on her personality, this doesn't happen in reality and it just p*sses me off...I see your points and I realized them too, it's just, what I'm trying to say is not that it doesn't make sense that her character would have become advanced, I'm guess I'm saying I don't like how they made her so advanced on top of everything else; it's annoying. If they suddenly took Katara out of the show (I know it won't happen though) I wouldn't miss her.


    i guessing that this is a subject that people hold close to their hearts. but yea i just thought that for someone that doesnt really show their skills throughout the series, katara became good out of nowhere. it just doesn't make sense that for someone that cant beat a fire nation prince without the help of the moon, what more a fire nation prodigy like azula, who we already knew had skills since she was young. (refers to "ZUKO ALONE")
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    qertvbnpop

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    Katara, she would have won in "TCoD", if zuko didnt cut the water rope. you should start a new one of zuko and aang, if it hasnt been done yet.
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    Emzie9546

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    but what about when the Guru said that even the four elemnts are an illusion? isnt he kinda saying that its just bending the energys and that all the energys are the same. meaning that they are all equal (fits also in Iroh's talk with Zuko on the balance of the four elements *bitter work*) so fire bending and water as well as earth and air are all powerful so there isnt a real advantage. once you are granted the rank of master it is on how you use the bending skills that determine the winner of the duel
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    white_rabbit112

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    Emzie9546 wrote:
    but what about when the Guru said that even the four elemnts are an illusion? isnt he kinda saying that its just bending the energys and that all the energys are the same. meaning that they are all equal (fits also in Iroh's talk with Zuko on the balance of the four elements *bitter work*) so fire bending and water as well as earth and air are all powerful so there isnt a real advantage. once you are granted the rank of master it is on how you use the bending skills that determine the winner of the duel

    Exactly, like many people have already said, IT DEPENDS ON THE BENDER!

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    UGamer08

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    What's all that about? Anywho, I think we got the "she's a great waterbender thing down". The problem is that that's pretty much her character but that another thing altogether. What I'd like to know is how come? Seriously what is it (besides the creators occasionally interesting desicions) that makes her so powerful. Besides being yet another prodigy why is she shown to be neccessarily better or at least on par with everyone else? I mean Toph's got a lot of things going for her, disability that lines up with her bending, training since she was little, actually having a teacher for a certain extended. Oh wow, we uh, didn't actually see her train with at all??Pakku did we???A lot of??people compared her to Sakura (Naruto thing) but I honestly??didn't see it??until now. Maybe that's why??what she??could do in ep 18 came as quite a surpise. And I mean more of a "where's all this coming from?"??surprise. One episode she's still struggling, the next she's a master. Eh. Its almost as if overall, Zuko's the only person that they use temperance with. Throughout season two, you can gradually see his fighting style evolve, culminating in Burning Lashes and a bunchof other moves in the finale. Maybe that why I think he's the only one, (besides the titular??character guy) who should be able to take on Azula. And Toph.
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    cutiekittygal

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    Ok now for this one.?? You have some valid points.?? Like I pointed out above Azula would be able to use her lightening against Katara because Water is a conductor.?? However I stated in the Toph vs. Azula thread that is also a very valid point too is that fire is an energy element like air.?? Whereas water and earth are more substance.?? So what I mean is that the substance elements can have more physical abilities that the energy elements.?? So we are aware that Azula doesn't know how to breath fire like Zuko or Iroh.?? Therefore it is safe to say that if Katara frozed Azula's arms and legs that the fight would be over.?? In the fight that you deem as ridiculous that is exactly what she did.?? She grabbed her arm and leg.?? So when it comes to a substance element versus an energy element then you are talking a different game.?? Aang would have not problem because he can do all elements but if you Gyatso vs Toph then you could see how she might win and also how she might lose.?? He can do like Aang and sneeze to blow her off a cliff.?? So there are always factors to take account for.?? In a one on one fight between Azula and Katara I am going to say that Katara would win because Azula doesn't have the breath of fire.??
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    (read the bolded part)?? i couldnt have said it better myself! see i love katara and azula, but im more leaning towards azula winning the fight! water??beats fire! but also it does depend on the bender! which brings me to my next point, i agree with everyone. i am kinda getting mad at katara tho, where in the freaking heck did she get so good??? a week or 2 with pakuu couldnt have done so much for her. she was struggling so bad earlier and now suddenly she is taking on the royal family!!!!!! grrrrr im getting mad that they focus so much on katara! what about toph!!! she is the greatest earthbender ever, or sokka, he is funny, or aang for peets sake, HE'S THE AVATAR!!!??thats the name of the show, its not called katara, the great waterender who sucked a few eppisodes back and now is??so great that she has to take over the whole show! so??basically where was??toph and sokka during the whole fight! they are just as cool as she is, heck maybe even cooler! everyone thinks katara is so pretty, so perfect, so good at everything, so strong...( inside and out) so nice and a goody goody who is way!!!!! too motherly for being 14!!!!! she's not in charge!!! she gets way too much screen time and its driving me mad!!! i cant stand it!!! wow i just went bizzerk! im sorry everyone!??i just wish that everyone could get good screen time and not only katara, shes making everyone else look bad, even azula... and azula is known for making others look bad!!! they could have done that fight so much better then they did. katara was a show off, everyone was like way weak, especially aang. he was like jumping everywhere, i wish he would have fought back. but as someone else said, he only fights to stop a fight.

    back on subjuct... i think azula would actually win, too bad she is the bad guy in the show so she cant win...( even tho she did in the long run) o well. feel free to criticise me, and sorry for how long it is.... **looks up and reads post*** wow thats pretty long.

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    KilalaRose

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    cutiekittygal wrote:

    (read the bolded part)?? i couldnt have said it better myself! see i love katara and azula, but im more leaning towards azula winning the fight! water??beats fire! but also it does depend on the bender! which brings me to my next point, i agree with everyone. i am kinda getting mad at katara tho, where in the freaking heck did she get so good??? a week or 2 with pakuu couldnt have done so much for her. she was struggling so bad earlier and now suddenly she is taking on the royal family!!!!!! grrrrr im getting mad that they focus so much on katara! what about toph!!! she is the greatest earthbender ever, or sokka, he is funny, or aang for peets sake, HE'S THE AVATAR!!!??thats the name of the show, its not called katara, the great waterender who sucked a few eppisodes back and now is??so great that she has to take over the whole show! so??basically where was??toph and sokka during the whole fight! they are just as cool as she is, heck maybe even cooler! everyone thinks katara is so pretty, so perfect, so good at everything, so strong...( inside and out) so nice and a goody goody who is way!!!!! too motherly for being 14!!!!! she's not in charge!!! she gets way too much screen time and its driving me mad!!! i cant stand it!!! wow i just went bizzerk! im sorry everyone!??i just wish that everyone could get good screen time and not only katara, shes making everyone else look bad, even azula... and azula is known for making others look bad!!! they could have done that fight so much better then they did. katara was a show off, everyone was like way weak, especially aang. he was like jumping everywhere, i wish he would have fought back. but as someone else said, he only fights to stop a fight.

    back on subjuct... i think azula would actually win, too bad she is the bad guy in the show so she cant win...( even tho she did in the long run) o well. feel free to criticise me, and sorry for how long it is.... **looks up and reads post*** wow thats pretty long.

    okay, yeah, calm down. anyway, you do realize that fire can evaporate water, too, right? that's why they're opposites. water can put out fire, but fire can evaporate water.

    next, we don't know how long Katara had been training with Pakku, though it makes the most sense to say 4-6 weeks or even more, because when the second season starts, they traveled a good many miles by just boat from the Northern Water Tribe to the top of the EK mainland. but, yes, I do agree that it doesn't seem reasonable that Katara mastered it so quickly and that she's better than Aang and she was able to take on both Zuko and Azula and whatnot (I mean, she was pwned by Zuko in "The Siege of the North" when she had the full moon bending boost thingy, but then again so did Zuko when the sun came up...) Yeah, forget I mentioned that but I'm pretty sure you get my meaning.

    As for the screen time thing, she does seem to have more than the others, but why put it on Katara. She's not even real. Blame the writers, creators, your mom, I don't knowm but I don't see the point on bashing a character that has no control over her own existence.

    Katara's attitude...I won't go as far as calling her a Mary Sue as some people would, but she is over-motherly for her age and she's all pretty and perfect and whatnot except for her insanely weird out of nowhere bursts of anger. Although, since this is a kids show and a lot of other kids shows (even though they're not even close to the standards of Avatar) have a character like a Mary Sue if not a Mary Sue.

    Wow, I wasn't planning on writing all of that, but....yeah. I have nothing better to do. Let the ongoing rants over Katara continue.
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    Couple of pointers for those lacking in scientific knowledge, water isn't an element, it's a compound of hydrogen and oxygen, and it's not the most versatile, hydrogen itself is the most versatile by FAR of all elements. More pointers, fire doesn't directly turn water into steam, you need the heat, fire is simply an oxydizing process, you can't really oxydize water, can you? It's already oxydized, the heat fromt eh fire evaporates water, not the fire itself. Also, you'd need more fire to evaporate water than water to put out fire. Okay that's that for the scientific parts. To the discussion. It's kinda sad that Azula gets absolutely PWNED by katara in TCOD, I mean, she's being hit with waves, her limbs are being rendered useless and all, but as others have said, it's only because the large body of water. Waterbending if you think LOGICALLY is the least usable bending in all the environments. I mean, if the battles were actually fought on the ocean instead of land, that wouldn't be true, but that's not true, so whatever. Now, to my point of why, air bending... well you can basically use that anywhere, even under water, fire is pretty much almost as usable as airbending, earth, well unless you seal people in metal boxes, there is going to be some rock, you don't need to cary around earth bending stuff liek you do for water, most times you can use earth bending from the ground. Water bending however requires water, and water unfortunately so far in most of these episodes isn't that prevelent, so bending water in a canteen or so is needed. Anyways, back to the discussion. I guess we are gonna take out the avatar state from aang from teh discussion, but Azula is more or less tied with Aang (she has 'beaten' him in the drill), and aang>katara, so isn't azula>katara too? The problem is, aang and katara are both water benders, but aang is also earth and air bender as well... which makes the 'cycle' not really work. Also, another random fact... lightning=electricity, water=good conductor of electricity, so LOGICALLY, i guess lightning would still hit Katara because when lightning hits the water, it'll be transferred everywhere in the waer, but watever. Anyways, interesting things about TCoD, Katara>azula, Zuko>Aang, then after that, Azula=Aang, and Zuko=Katara, so therefore katara>azula and aang, and zuko>aang and katara? That was kinda strange, Aang got his butt kicked by Zuko easily lol, and kaara just schooled azula till zuko came and saved her. In the end... I just wish that in TCoD, Aang would stop being so defensive in his manuvers,a nd stop using the fricking crystals instead of rock for earthbending itself. If aang could be mroe aggressive, he would easily kick... everybodies butt, but all he does is defend against attacks except when he is in the avatar state, which kinda pisses me off.
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    blackfire_bird

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    I said it before and I'll say it again: Don't try to reason with cartoon logic!!! It is POINTLESS!!!

    It's like wondering how in those looney tune cartoons "the characters do to re appear in yet an other episode and to be totally unharmed while you definitely know that in the previous one they got hit by an 10 ton anvil"

    Cartoons have ways that men are never to discover , Katara got extremely strong in like... only two episodes !!! So what , don't get all fuzz- up about it ,?? IT'S JUST A CARTOON !!!!!!!!!!!!!

    (Yet again this show is so popular that it can't just be a simple cartoon ... -_-", finally forget all that I just said and keep arguing. lol)

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    ecao123, please tell me why you are putting science to an animation. And, yes, in the Avatar World where this entire show is based, water and fire and air and earth are all elements. You think you sound smart by saying that, but you seriously sound the exact opposite when it's a known fact (and an obvious one) that this is fiction and is not real so there is no point in your scientific logic in a show where people can levitate a giant rock and shoot across the room. I would love to hear the next time you see a person actually "bend" anything. The show is based off of real world things, like the bending arts and styles are based off of real fighting styles and blue fire being hotter than orange fire (which is scientific but that does not go into such detail that it makes absolutely no sense as to why you even wrote it). It's not real.
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    gunswordfist

    [57]Dec 21, 2006
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    EASILY Azula. Azula was only pretending to make Katara look like she was winning to test Zuko's loyalty. But I hate them both so I wish they would double KO each other.
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    ecao123

    [58]Dec 21, 2006
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    KilalaRose wrote:
    ecao123, please tell me why you are putting science to an animation. And, yes, in the Avatar World where this entire show is based, water and fire and air and earth are all elements. You think you sound smart by saying that, but you seriously sound the exact opposite when it's a known fact (and an obvious one) that this is fiction and is not real so there is no point in your scientific logic in a show where people can levitate a giant rock and shoot across the room. I would love to hear the next time you see a person actually "bend" anything. The show is based off of real world things, like the bending arts and styles are based off of real fighting styles and blue fire being hotter than orange fire (which is scientific but that does not go into such detail that it makes absolutely no sense as to why you even wrote it). It's not real.

    Because people are saying water is an element, anybody should know that water is H2O by now, i mean, that's like 4th grade stuff, jeeze. Anyways, you are making no point at all, i mean seroiusly, like 1/6th of my WHOLE ENTIRE post was about science, the rest about my opinion on the matter. It seems like you read the 1/6th about science and not hte other parts of my wall of words (yes, i'm too lazy to make paragraphs, get over it, get used to it), which actually matter more. THe fact is, scienece is still related, jeeeze, as pointed out by Jeong Jeong, Fire is still 'alive' like in real life, it spreads and grows wildly, it is true that if you bend the currents in the air, you can technically 'fly' with a glider and such. How about you stop reading ht epart about science and get to the real point, eh I'm jus proving people wrong because they are wrong (oh yeah, water surely is the most versatile element when it's NOT EVEN AN ELEMENT).
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    Emzie9546

    [59]Dec 21, 2006
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    everyone keeps complaining about how katara got so good so fast but dont we see her CONSTANTLY TRAINING? i mean comon she is a full time water bender always practicing because its what she loves Aang however is split in his learning cuz it seems that 3/4 the time hes earth bending training and the other 1/4 is water bending. he isnt exactly mastering any of the elements but learning the basics unliek katara who is a master and from self training, is now a awsome waterbender! it DOES make sence that she is now a really powerful water bender and can do these great thing. *admits they over did some of it, but it does make sence* she probully practices daily. remeber in the warriors of kyoshi when aang goes to see her after she buys the food? she is WATERBENDING because she constantly betters herself and she trains alone! so we wont see her training most of the time because last time i checked the show was called Avatar the last airbender so we are focused on Aang and wont see katara's training unless aang is with her *bitter work*
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    KilalaRose

    [60]Dec 21, 2006
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    ecao123 wrote:
    KilalaRose wrote:
    ecao123, please tell me why you are putting science to an animation. And, yes, in the Avatar World where this entire show is based, water and fire and air and earth are all elements. You think you sound smart by saying that, but you seriously sound the exact opposite when it's a known fact (and an obvious one) that this is fiction and is not real so there is no point in your scientific logic in a show where people can levitate a giant rock and shoot across the room. I would love to hear the next time you see a person actually "bend" anything. The show is based off of real world things, like the bending arts and styles are based off of real fighting styles and blue fire being hotter than orange fire (which is scientific but that does not go into such detail that it makes absolutely no sense as to why you even wrote it). It's not real.

    Because people are saying water is an element, anybody should know that water is H2O by now, i mean, that's like 4th grade stuff, jeeze. Anyways, you are making no point at all, i mean seroiusly, like 1/6th of my WHOLE ENTIRE post was about science, the rest about my opinion on the matter. It seems like you read the 1/6th about science and not hte other parts of my wall of words (yes, i'm too lazy to make paragraphs, get over it, get used to it), which actually matter more. THe fact is, scienece is still related, jeeeze, as pointed out by Jeong Jeong, Fire is still 'alive' like in real life, it spreads and grows wildly, it is true that if you bend the currents in the air, you can technically 'fly' with a glider and such. How about you stop reading ht epart about science and get to the real point, eh I'm jus proving people wrong because they are wrong (oh yeah, water surely is the most versatile element when it's NOT EVEN AN ELEMENT).
    Actually, I did read your entire post but I only commented on the science part because there's no point in saying that they're not elements when people are only referring to the show. Like I said before, in real life they're not elements, but in the Avatar world they are. I know science is related. In fact, I use science a lot as evidence for why things happen in the Avatar world, like firebenders can bend lightning because fire and lightning are both forms of energy and plasmas. But, because the world is fiction, I don't go into why water isn't an element because it's pointless when the show is based off of four elements and in that show water is. Sorry for my ranting and I really hope I didn't offend you (it had been a long day)
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