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IT IS AN OFFICIAL FACT; Aang Did Not Die

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    confucioussayhi

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    masterofaeons wrote:
    Nick.com says a lot of things. Heck, back in 1549 it predicted that George Washington would assassinate JFK to end slavery. I wouldn't trust it.
    Curse them.
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    DPhomegurl

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    welll DUH!!!!! you could see him breathe at the end of the eppisode.
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    Spike815

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    masterofaeons wrote:
    Nick.com says a lot of things. Heck, back in 1549 it predicted that George Washington would assassinate JFK to end slavery. I wouldn't trust it.
    There was that shot fired from the grassy knoll
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    adidaZuko

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    Uh, this is like the??Jet??death thing.??And for the record, don't call anyone an idiot just because they thought differently before you had this "proof" what made you think you knew better and besides I can disproove??your little statement. All that said was, and yes I DID read it, that she saved his life. So? He could have still died and was brought back to life, technically that'd still be saving him. I stick by my theory that Aang's heart had stopped but wasn't truly dead yet. So in a way, he didn't die and in another way he did die.?? Who really cares, point is he isn't dead whether he "died' or not.
    Edited on 12/12/2006 3:33pm
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    gamer100g

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    Maybe the question isn't did Aang die but rather did he go in to the avatar state?

    I know that many of you including me do not fully or at all trust nick.com. But it says Quote

    "Aang is interrupted when Azula shoots him with lightning. In both cases, Aang is unable to clear the chakra and master the Avatar State."

    So maybe Aang did not enter the avatar state fully and thus the cycle was not broken.
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    Eman5805

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    DPhomegurl wrote:
    welll DUH!!!!! you could see him breathe at the end of the eppisode.

    No, they mean before that. That Aang was dead when Katara tried to heal the wound on Aang's back, Aang was dead at that point. But, then she brought him back.

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    RustyMantis216

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    Alright, let's look at it this way. Aang was shot down when activating the Avatar state. That however, is the only aspect I can see that would be debatable. I'm contesting that the activation wasn't even complete, thus the final chakra wasn't even unlocked. Supposedly that is what Nick.com is sticking to but I believe it regardless. One could easily conclude that the scene with Aang in space, walking along the cosmic energy to his enlarged "self" was going somewhere other than him just chilling in that sphere. This process did not appear complete.

    Above all else, though, you have to realize ONE thing. Katara cannot bring people back to life. Yes, she is a very, Very, VERY powerful master water bender and she is able to heal people. Nowhere, though, has anyone said that waterbenders can cure death! Not only do I think that the power to bring someone back to life should never be bestowed upon a NON-Avatar, but I would think that it would be a bit beyond the reach of ANY bender in the first place.

    Personally, I would imagine that bringing someone back to life would consist of a trip to the spirit world to retrieve the actual spirit on the other side and convincing other very powerful spirits to release the person in question. No matter how sacred it might be, I highly doubt it would be as simple as using a bit of water from the North Pole's spirit oasis.

    Last but not least, you can see that the mark on Aang's back was not a hole. Why? You can see another scorch mark on the bottom of his right foot. His back is where the electricity entered and the bottom of his right foot is where it exited. All electricity has a fairly direct path when electrocuting someone, a starting and ending point through the body. When given a large jolt of electricity one can be rendered unconcious as well. Not uncommon.

    In conclusion.....no death occured in my honest and unbiased opinion. Yes, I could see how many could perceive him as "dying" or "dead"
    (Even though the two are very, very different and seperate states. Just like how you can't be just a little bit pregnant, LOL) considering he was NOT able to support his own weight when Katara
    dragged him out of the cave. None the less, I think my evidence proves my point.
    Edited on 12/12/2006 4:00pm
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    confucioussayhi

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    RustyMantis216 wrote:
    Alright, let's look at it this way. Aang was shot down when activating the Avatar state. That however, is the only aspect I can see that would be debatable. I'm contesting that the activation wasn't even complete and I would be surprised if the final chakra wasn't even unlocked.?? Supposedly that is what Nick.com is sticking to. Above all else, though, you have to realize ONE thing. Katara cannot bring people back to life. Yes, she is a very, Very, VERY powerful master water bender and she is able to heal people. Nowhere, though, has anyone said that waterbenders can cure death! Not only do I think that the power to bring someone back to life should never be bestowed upon a NON-Avatar, but I would think that it would be a bit beyond the reach of ANY bender in the first place.

    Personally, I would imagine that bringing someone back to life would consist of a trip to the spirit world to retrieve the actual spirit on the other side and convincing other very powerful spirits to release the person in question. No matter how sacred it might be, I highly doubt it would be as simple as using a bit of water from the South Pole's spirit oasis.

    Last but not least, you can see that the mark on Aang's back was not a hole. Why? You can see another scorch mark on the bottom of his right foot. His back is where the electricity entered and the bottom of his right foot is where it exited. All electricity has a fairly direct path when electrocuting someone, a starting and ending point through the body. When given a large jolt of electricity one can be rendered unconcious as well. Not uncommon.

    In conclusion.....no death occured in my honest and unbiased opinion. Yes, I could see how many could perceive him as "dying" or "dead" (Even though the two are very, very different and seperate states. Just like how you can't be just a little bit pregnant, LOL) considering he was NOT able to support his own weight when Katara dragged him out of the cave. None the less, I think my evidence proves my point.
    I didn't know doctors watched this show! Jk very nice though, it was...informative. And the sacred water is from the north pole not the south.
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    Eman5805

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    Why can't Katara bring Aang back with that Spirit Oasis water? Doctors bring people back to life all the time. When you flatline on a hospital bed that means your heart stops beating, making you techincally dead. But, if the doctors can restart your heart you can be brought back to life. Not impossible for us normal humans all we need is energy to stimulate the muscles in the heart to beat again. Aang's the spiritual bridge so I'm certain that water with "special properties" could work some mumbo jumbo and use??spiritual energy??to??restart his heart. It has to be, since we know that Aang was dead when Katara did the water thing.??Unless now??we're going to debate Aang's level of deadness?

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    RustyMantis216

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    confucioussayhi wrote:
    I didn't know doctors watched this show! Jk very nice though, it was...informative. And the sacred water is from the north pole not the south.


    LOL!?? Thanks, I guess.?? I think I've kinda' given away that I'm not a very young Avatar fan, hmmm??? Well, I'm all for 25 year olds watching Avatar!
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    confucioussayhi

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    Stop arguing! Cuz' THE CREATORS ARE ALWAYS RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DAMMIT! It'll work itself out.
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    confucioussayhi

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    RustyMantis216 wrote:
    confucioussayhi wrote:
    I didn't know doctors watched this show! Jk very nice though, it was...informative. And the sacred water is from the north pole not the south.


    LOL!?? Thanks, I guess.?? I think I've kinda' given away that I'm not a very young Avatar fan, hmmm??? Well, I'm all for 25 year olds watching Avatar!
    Not at all.
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    RustyMantis216

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    Eman5805 wrote:

    Why can't Katara bring Aang back with that Spirit Oasis water? Doctors bring people back to life all the time. When you flatline on a hospital bed that means your heart stops beating, making you techincally dead. But, if the doctors can restart your heart you can be brought back to life. Not impossible for us normal humans all we need is energy to stimulate the muscles in the heart to beat again. Aang's the spiritual bridge so I'm certain that water with "special properties" could work some mumbo jumbo and use spiritual energy to restart his heart. It has to be, since we know that Aang was dead when Katara did the water thing. Unless now we're going to debate Aang's level of deadness?



    I don't think it's his level of deadness that is in question. Yes, doctors are able to bring people back to life. If a very advanced fire bender were to try and "jump-start" someone back to life with bending electricity then yes, maybe. However, we're talking tribal times here. The Avatar world has barely even seen the beginning of the steam age. Their level of medical knowledge I'd admit is not very advanced.

    Mainly my point was that the spirit world is the brick wall here. Avatar refers very closely to Chinese mythology (Taoism) and that to bring someone back is not an easy task. If someone is dead, their spirit is no longer in their body and has travelled and arrived in the spirit world. Remember the journey Aang had to go on to find the name of the Ocean and Moon spirit at the end of the first season? That would be nothing compared to an attempt at retrieving a spirit from the other side. I would imagine the only person capable of such a task, through travelling to the spirit world or not, would be fit only for an Avatar. Especially in reference to how much chi it would take, control of that chi and just pure knowledge, spiritual and otherwise.
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    PrimoNation

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    well I guess this should end the did he or didn't he debate here as well... as found on message #1116 in the thread Official Discussion: The Guru/The Crossroads of Destiny (12/1 - Spoilers)

    pooldude256 wrote:
    Might seem a bit out of the blue...but I have received official word.... Aang did in fact die, and Katara revived him.

    Seems quite odd that they would give so much power to a 14 yr old waterbender with some special oasis water but hey, I guess now all we can speculate is was he indeed in the avatar state at the exact time of death OR as speculated on the nick.com website he did not master it therefore the avatar spirit should still be intact... dunno..

    p.s. also if she was able to heal a dead person, why did she walk away from a dying person (JET) with a look of despair... you would think she could heal somebody who was dying with regular water if she could heal the dead with special water

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    Eman5805

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    She probably WAS going to heal Jet but Longshot told her there wasn't any time and that he and Smellerbee would take care of Jet. Though I don't know if Katara heard Toph when she said "He's lying."

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    confucioussayhi

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    Eman5805 wrote:

    She probably WAS going to heal Jet but Longshot told her there wasn't any time and that he and Smellerbee would take care of Jet. Though I don't know if Katara heard Toph when she said "He's lying."

    No Toph said that when Jet said tht he'd be ok.
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    adidaZuko

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    Besides everything else, the "official" website and Nick itself have always been a little off. For example, if you go to that same place you suggested to visit you'll read that it says somewhere that Zuko says: "It's over avatar...capturing you has always been my destiny." and supposedly Aang replies: "You've got your destiny...and I've got mine." and then goes into the avatar state.??Not only was that lame, but it never happened. Also if you read more about the story you'll see it says Aang was mortally wounded, mortal meaning: causing or liable to cause death; fatal, which in my interpretation would mean that he had died; like I said before, you can still save someone's life by bringing them BACK to life. Besides, he was all limp and what not and had he was hit with lightning, not only do most people die from being struck by lightning, but look where he was hit, right in the back, the chances of him surviving that are slim to none. Plus, that big Aang died which was probably symbolic, and in the beginning of the show it stressed that if Aang died in the avatar state it would cease to exist.

    Again, I'd just like to add that Nick is almost never right about these things, example:

    Nick has NO idea what they're doing.

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