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How would avatar be if not for nick?

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    tigerstalksprey

    [21]Oct 19, 2006
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    it's really hard to not like avatar the way it is now, but if avatar were on HBO things would be like:

    - mai would actually shoot ppl in the face w/ those darts
    - people would get burned and bloodied a whole lot often
    - it would be a much darker show
    - azula woulda killed a whole lotta ppl by now
    - they woulduve shown zuko getting punched in the face w/ a flaming fist (that's the way i see it, he prolly got hit in the face w/ a fireball tho)
    - there'd be a lot more romance
    - more deadly bending
    - less humor
    - lots of profanity, not by aang, but by everyone else

    the grass is always greener, and the only real thing wrong is that mai's character really is useless since its a kid show, but i really like avatar the way it is alredy.

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    thebeckster12

    [22]Oct 19, 2006
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    I have said this before, if you are older you see more inside jokes, and id you are yonger you dont even relize them, that is what makes the show so great!
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    gunswordfist

    [23]Oct 19, 2006
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    tigerstalksprey wrote:
    it's really hard to not like avatar the way it is now, but if avatar were on HBO things would be like:

    - mai would actually shoot ppl in the face w/ those darts
    - people would get burned and bloodied a whole lot often
    - it would be a much darker show
    - azula woulda killed a whole lotta ppl by now
    - they woulduve shown zuko getting punched in the face w/ a flaming fist (that's the way i see it, he prolly got hit in the face w/ a fireball tho)
    - there'd be a lot more romance
    - more deadly bending
    - less humor
    - lots of profanity, not by aang, but by everyone else

    the grass is always greener, and the only real thing wrong is that mai's character really is useless since its a kid show, but i really like avatar the way it is alredy.
    I agree with all of that except for the less humor part. The creators of the show really love humor.
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    madmonkey7

    [24]Oct 19, 2006
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    I would trust it with Viz! They did a great job with naruto!
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    gunswordfist

    [25]Oct 19, 2006
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    Agreed. They are the Gods of editing animation. Naruto has more blood than any other animation that's not on AdultSwim. DBZ did a kind of good job at that too. Kind of.
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    shadowcloud86

    [26]Oct 19, 2006
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    but I think the more important question would be:

    HOW WOULD NICK BE IF NOT FOR AVATAR?

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    KilalaRose

    [27]Oct 19, 2006
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    shadowcloud86 wrote:

    but I think the more important question would be:

    HOW WOULD NICK BE IF NOT FOR AVATAR?
    Nick would be dead right now if it wasn't for Avatar. they're already doing suicide with their stupid scheduling....
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    dumbTVnut

    [28]Oct 19, 2006
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    KilalaRose wrote:
    shadowcloud86 wrote:

    but I think the more important question would be:

    HOW WOULD NICK BE IF NOT FOR AVATAR?
    Nick would be dead right now if it wasn't for Avatar. they're already doing suicide with their stupid scheduling....


    who cares about a tv network?
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    Tv-man117

    [29]Oct 19, 2006
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    KilalaRose wrote:
    shadowcloud86 wrote:

    but I think the more important question would be:

    HOW WOULD NICK BE IF NOT FOR AVATAR?
    Nick would be dead right now if it wasn't for Avatar. they're already doing suicide with their stupid scheduling....

    I 100% agree with you

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    Ecfyeti

    [30]Oct 20, 2006
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    redgarlic68 wrote:
    I guess this has been brought up before, but since I can??t either remember it or find it, i??m posting it. What do you think would change in avatar if it wasn??t a nicktoon? You know, imagine an anime with the same story, characters, and all, just without nick "kiddie" style and restraint. Here go some of my ideas:
    • Sokka and Yue would have had more than kisses between them
    • Mai wuould have actually killed someone

    Feel free to discuss them and add more of the type.
    (If you know of another thread with the same topic PLEASE post a link and leave this alone to die)

    Hmmm...well it would be pretty non-existent for one. I'd hate to think of Avatar as a violent show on any other network mainly because, they probably would've dragged out Avatar for way-way longer than neccessary, they would be too forward with adult humor (it's all about subltly people!) and it would be overly bloody. Not to mention the budget would be way lower (last I heard it's a little under one million per episode, Nick's got bank people!). Not to say there would only be negatives, I agree on the whole Mai thing, she is an awesome warrior but they can't exactly show all she can do...the worst she's done is pin people to a tree. And every once in a while I do wish Avatar would have a few more fillers (not in place of the plot episodes but in addition to them).

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    JonathonWolf

    [31]Oct 20, 2006
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    Avatar probably wouldn't change because the creators came up with the concept and the direction.?? Most networks don't put a lot of input into the shows beyond ensuring that the show meets with their standards of entertainment.?? Nick is about wholesome children's entertainment; Spike targets adult males; Oxygen targets adult females.?? There's a channel that focuses on Christian values; I wouldn't expect them to show a KISS or GWAR concert.?? The creators probably shopped around to all the kids networks because that's what they were going for.?? A lot of the issues of blood and violence are more about the broadcasting standards and policies.?? You'll notice that a lot of the animations that have a lot of violence, blood, or profanity are shown in the evening because that is a broadcast regulation.?? Just like during the 80s, it was a requirement that anything shown for kids had to have an educational message.?? A lot of shows fulfilled that requirement by having a moral segment at the end.
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    Murraymuzz

    [32]Oct 20, 2006
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    JonathonWolf wrote:
    Avatar probably wouldn't change because the creators came up with the concept and the direction.?? Most networks don't put a lot of input into the shows beyond ensuring that the show meets with their standards of entertainment.?? Nick is about wholesome children's entertainment; Spike targets adult males; Oxygen targets adult females.?? There's a channel that focuses on Christian values; I wouldn't expect them to show a KISS or GWAR concert.?? The creators probably shopped around to all the kids networks because that's what they were going for.?? A lot of the issues of blood and violence are more about the broadcasting standards and policies.?? You'll notice that a lot of the animations that have a lot of violence, blood, or profanity are shown in the evening because that is a broadcast regulation.?? Just like during the 80s, it was a requirement that anything shown for kids had to have an educational message.?? A lot of shows fulfilled that requirement by having a moral segment at the end.


    Reminds me of South Park...
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    tc2r

    [33]Oct 20, 2006
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    throw it on Adult swim and you'd have

    Aang and any other airbender would just drain the oxygen from their enemies till they either die or go unconcious.

    Katara would be able to simply freeze your heart. (fatality!). that or send an Ice spike through it.

    Sokka's boomarang would be as sharp as it looks.

    fighting the FN would result in serious burns.

    No way in hell anyone would dodge Azula's lightning attack. (do you know how fast lightning is???)


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    Eman5805

    [34]Oct 20, 2006
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    I doubt the creators would have Aang or Katara doing things like ripping the oxygen outta your lungs or going Scar(FullMetal Alchemist) on ppls hearts...those are bad guy tactics...but when Aang goes Avatar state ppl would actually die instead of "vanishing without a trace" like the ppl he wiped out with water in "Seige of the North" or "Avatar State" and Azula would have killed the stupid general who ousted her plan to capture Zuko in "Avatar State" instead of Zuko just tossing him overboard

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    karatewolfpunk

    [35]Oct 20, 2006
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    It would be cool if Avatar was on another network, but there are hardly any other good ones, and I probably would have never learned/or cared about it. I would want more sexuality.
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    mistaria

    [36]Oct 20, 2006
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    How could Av be a rip off of DBZ? DBZ was great but come on, it took like a month or more in episodes on TV just to get through ONE battle. That was so annoying. ::dodges bricks:: Its true!
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    tc2r

    [37]Oct 21, 2006
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    mistaria wrote:
    How could Av be a rip off of DBZ? DBZ was great but come on, it took like a month or more in episodes on TV just to get through ONE battle. That was so annoying. ::dodges bricks:: Its true!


    Dbz Dude 1: so you dare fight me? Dbz dude 2: I AM THE PRINCE OF ALL VEGGIES!

    Dbz Dude 1: how dare you, I must now explain why you can never win!

    (5 minutes later)
    Dbz Dude2: We'll see about that!
    :: fight starts, Dbz dude one and two go into cool fight sequence, only to have them leave it 10 seconds later:: Dbz dude 2: I will now float in mid air telling you about your skill being impressive, but I was only kidding with you!

    Dbz dude 2 : Only kidding??? and you thought I brought it all to the table in this life or death fight? no I am at my weakest pwr level. Dbz dude 2: oh? :: dbz dude 2 begins to yell while bleaching his hair and taking steroids::

    Dbz dude 2: Oh my????!

    :bz dude 2 continues to yell, Dbz dude 1 is supposedly tooo shocked to do anything while his enemy is getting stronger... you know, like kill him::

    Dbz dude 1: AHHHHHH!
    :: about 5 more minutes of Dbz dude 1 yelling, then Dbz dude 2 finally figures out something...::

    Dbz dude 2: I will show you my true strength too!

    :: Dbz dude 2 begins yelling::

    Dbz dude 1 turns shiney like a brand new gold coin, and now watches Dbz dude 2, apparently frozen in shock, or gloatting? or pride, Idk, I'd just kill the dude before he can "reach his full level/go horse by screaming and growing his hair. :: narrorator comes on:::

    what will happen now in this grand fight? tune in next time to see Dbz dude 1 and 2 fight at their supposed full level... well mostly chat at each other about their life story, yell, and glow, on another action packed drama of DBZ!
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    Tessa-san

    [38]Oct 21, 2006
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    tc2r wrote:
    mistaria wrote:
    How could Av be a rip off of DBZ? DBZ was great but come on, it took like a month or more in episodes on TV just to get through ONE battle. That was so annoying. ::dodges bricks:: Its true!


    Dbz Dude 1: so you dare fight me? Dbz dude 2: I AM THE PRINCE OF ALL VEGGIES!

    Dbz Dude 1: how dare you, I must now explain why you can never win!

    (5 minutes later)
    Dbz Dude2: We'll see about that!
    :: fight starts, Dbz dude one and two go into cool fight sequence, only to have them leave it 10 seconds later:: Dbz dude 2: I will now float in mid air telling you about your skill being impressive, but I was only kidding with you!

    Dbz dude 2 : Only kidding??? and you thought I brought it all to the table in this life or death fight? no I am at my weakest pwr level. Dbz dude 2: oh? :: dbz dude 2 begins to yell while bleaching his hair and taking steroids::

    Dbz dude 2: Oh my????!

    :bz dude 2 continues to yell, Dbz dude 1 is supposedly tooo shocked to do anything while his enemy is getting stronger... you know, like kill him::

    Dbz dude 1: AHHHHHH!
    :: about 5 more minutes of Dbz dude 1 yelling, then Dbz dude 2 finally figures out something...::

    Dbz dude 2: I will show you my true strength too!

    :: Dbz dude 2 begins yelling::

    Dbz dude 1 turns shiney like a brand new gold coin, and now watches Dbz dude 2, apparently frozen in shock, or gloatting? or pride, Idk, I'd just kill the dude before he can "reach his full level/go horse by screaming and growing his hair. :: narrorator comes on:::

    what will happen now in this grand fight? tune in next time to see Dbz dude 1 and 2 fight at their supposed full level... well mostly chat at each other about their life story, yell, and glow, on another action packed drama of DBZ!

    *points above* DBZ in a nutshell. Or at least in my mom's opinion. Anyhow, if not for nick, Avatar wouldn't exist! If I had to pick another network for it to be on, though, I'd have to pick Cartoon Network, more specifically Toonami. Now, if you haven't watched CN often for the past year, then you probably don't know about IGPX, a show that really pushed the standards for the network. It had a few curses in it (@$$ was the extent) and it was quite brutal, so it got moved to Adult Swim. The reason I bring this up is because, even if it was moved to Toonami, they wouldn't be able to do too much worse. Add a little sensuality, blood, and more death is the true extent it could go. No swearing or anything. And we already have some death. Personally, I'd prefer it if Avatar was on Toonami.
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    sluggmunki_tx

    [39]Oct 21, 2006
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    Cartoon Network (aka: Craptoon Network - what I call it)/Kids WB (The CW) would more likely make this more suspensful and a little more violence into this show. Jetix/Toon Disney would make it a little more cheesy. Same with 4KidsTV/Fox. Disney Channel? Think of a strange version of American Dragon: Jake Long.
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    Tessa-san

    [40]Oct 21, 2006
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    sluggmunki_tx wrote:
    Cartoon Network (aka: Craptoon Network - what I call it)/Kids WB (The CW) would more likely make this more suspensful and a little more violence into this show. Jetix/Toon Disney would make it a little more cheesy. Same with 4KidsTV/Fox. Disney Channel? Think of a strange version of American Dragon: Jake Long.

    Disney Channel? I would have to kill myeself if Avatar was on Disney Channel.
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