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How will Zuko gain Katara's trust?

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    Psyche987

    [121]Apr 16, 2008
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    tomtitan wrote:
    Psyche987 wrote:

    I think it will be revealed Zukos mom is also Katara's and Sokka's mom....then we'll have Zutaracest .

    Uuh....no, Katara will just see the Zuko we see ...I hope it's major emotional.

    What? NO! That cannot happen! That would mean Urkoda is impossible, and Urkoda must happen! Urkoda FTW!!!

    In that case Urkoda had happened right? Ursa wanted to test what's the difference between water and fire.

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    Psyche987

    [122]Apr 16, 2008
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    tomtitan wrote:
    Blaster33456 wrote:
    Oh didn't know what that meant... I've been really late today.
    In the play Oedipus Rex, the character Oedipus, who has never met is biological parents, is told by an oracle that he will one day kill his father and marry his mother. He tries to not fulfill the prophecy but in the end he does fulfill it, without realising.
    WiseLad wrote:
    tomtitan wrote:
    Blaster33456 wrote:
    the new firelord would probably be: HER SON!!!
    Hence the mentioning of Oedipus Rex.
    I think Iroh will be FL, with Zuko the heir
    No, Zuko will be the Firelord.

    The base story as used for plays by Euripides Aeschylos Sophocles etc. isn't that Oedipus tries to avoid his so told destiny. Oedipus never knew about the oracles speech.

    Don't read this if you don't want to:

    The king and queen of Thebes were expecting a child and to celebrate they went to see the oracle. In vague words however the oracle brought bad news that the coming son was going to kill his own father and marry his mother. The King decided therefore to part the baby from his wife once born and bring it to the high mountains. To be sure the child would stay and probably die of starvation there without possible power to escape (though it was a baby) he decided to perforate the left heel. The baby got left there, however....the wolves found it and holy moly instead of eating they raised it, until one day when the child was about 3 farmers found it. The child was, not knowing of his real identity, born and raised there. He was called Oedipus because he was impaired on his left feet by the perforated heel (yes: it's a scar brought to him by his own father! ).

    However, when Oedipus grows old enough he decides to travel and discover the world. After some adventures like a sphinx riddle and a guy who likes to stretch people and chop of feet in beds he has an encounter with his father, not knowing it is his father. The father spits at 'the simple farmer' and as tradition of that day because of mutual disrespect they start a fight. Oedipus wins the fight and daddad dies. Then Oedipus gets to Thebe, there are some problems...forgot what exactly. The one to complete a certain task gets to marry the queen of Thebes, who, dun dun dun duuun, just got to be a widow. Yes, and Oedipus marries her, not knowing it is his mother. It's not until he and his mother got a few children (and yes, a crazy incest bunch; twins who kill each other and a depressed bunch of ladies) and raised them, when one day his mother/wife tells him the story of her 'lost child' and somehow there happens something that makes Oedipus and his motherwife find out the truth. Oedipus is flabbergasted and asks his guards to cut out his tongue and eyeballs and let him be banished. Mother kills herself out of disgrace.

    Very long story, I know. However, the mainpoint is Oedipus doing the act never knew he was doing it (right?). I believe there isn't even a version where he knows what he's doing. Only the audience know the fullness of the story while watching, that's the fun.

    Ok! Back on topic lmao.

    Edit: The Sphinx was the task and the mother was called Iocaste. I should have a tragedyfix.

    Edit: So in Sophocles he already knew. In some mythologylessons he never knew. the oracle speech Ok, this post is irrelevant. Back on subject.

    Edited on 04/16/2008 4:36pm
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    Blaster33456

    [123]Apr 16, 2008
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    Couldn't read the whole thing so to translate it:

    Oedipus killed his father so he could knock up his wife (mom) who after he found out, he was so so so so messed up.
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    AlexandriteTopa

    [124]Apr 16, 2008
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    Then there were Oedipus' kids, who I won't mention.......................................... Antigone. Sorry I had to say it.

    On topic, I don't really have a definite idea of how it will go. Hopefully not too cliche, but whatever, I could see it going both ways.

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    Psyche987

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    AlexandriteTopa wrote:

    Then there were Oedipus' kids, who I won't mention.......................................... Antigone. Sorry I had to say it.

    On topic, I don't really have a definite idea of how it will go. Hopefully not too cliche, but whatever, I could see it going both ways.

    Ah....the temptation lol! Antigone and her boring sister Ismene. And then the twins, Polyneikes and erm....Eteokles. Very nice twins, I wish I had twins like that. I'll slap my face now! Last offtopic stuff. I think though avatar has a bit of tragedy ancient Greek society values only adapted for kids kind of morals now and then.

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    Lisa31468

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    PenguAvatar wrote:
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    ROFL! re: random caps typing

    Much better and I'm changing my sig.

    Changing it?

    Yes so it's less incestuous apparently.

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    tomtitan

    [127]Apr 17, 2008
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    Lisa31468 wrote:
    PenguAvatar wrote:
    Lisa31468 wrote:

    ROFL! re: random caps typing

    Much better and I'm changing my sig.

    Changing it?

    Yes so it's less incestuous apparently.

    ...It was a joke...
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    Blaster33456

    [128]Apr 17, 2008
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    B.O.T.:

    zuko just has to whisper something to Katara's ear and she'll forgive him.

    (same techinque done by the OWNage character of Eyeshield 21 (Hiruma) and which made Mamori and Yumichika evil)
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