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How powerful and skillful is Aang compared to past avatars?

How powerful is aang compared to past avatars?

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    hkulka2974

    [1]Jul 17, 2008
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    I watched FBM yesterday and i heard zuko say,"You can do it you're a talented kid."

    Then remembering back to The Avatar and the Firelord i realized how true a statement this was.

    Roku took a long time to master the elements as shown by his training, while aang has done a capable job with the elements in a matter of months compared to what took roku years.


    So i wanted people's opinions:

    How powerful is aang in comparison to past Avatars?

    and

    How much more skilled is aang compared to past avatars?

    and

    if he lives on will he become more powerful than the other avatars?

    Edited on 07/17/2008 12:10pm
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    kratosgod69

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    I would say equal. It's just under the situation that he's more powerful. I think all the Avatars are equal in strength but the war is causing Aang to do much more.
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    suss2it

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    We don't know because we haven't seen enough of the past avatars. The only reason Aang isn't taking years to master the elements, is because he doesn't have the time.

    Roku had no pressure and could take as long as he pleases, seeing as though there wasn't a worldwide war for him to prevent, by a certain date.
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    I'd say he is a little more powerful than Roku because remember, in The Avatar State, Roku said that the AS is the combination of the power and knowledge (paraphrase) from all the past lives. So, as the avatar keeps being reincarnated, a little more power is gained each time.
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    hkulka2974

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    suss2it wrote:
    We don't know because we haven't seen enough of the past avatars. The only reason Aang isn't taking years to master the elements, is because he doesn't have the time. Roku had no pressure and could take as long as he pleases, seeing as though there wasn't a worldwide war for him to prevent, by a certain date.

    true but it must take a large amount of skill to master the elements so quickly in such a short amount of time

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    suss2it

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    hkulka2974 wrote:

    suss2it wrote:
    We don't know because we haven't seen enough of the past avatars. The only reason Aang isn't taking years to master the elements, is because he doesn't have the time. Roku had no pressure and could take as long as he pleases, seeing as though there wasn't a worldwide war for him to prevent, by a certain date.

    true but it must take a large amount of skill to master the elements so quickly in such a short amount of time
    True, but who's to say that Roku couldn't have stepped up if he were in this situation?
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    hkulka2974

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    suss2it wrote:
    hkulka2974 wrote:

    suss2it wrote:
    We don't know because we haven't seen enough of the past avatars. The only reason Aang isn't taking years to master the elements, is because he doesn't have the time. Roku had no pressure and could take as long as he pleases, seeing as though there wasn't a worldwide war for him to prevent, by a certain date.

    true but it must take a large amount of skill to master the elements so quickly in such a short amount of time
    True, but who's to say that Roku couldn't have stepped up if he were in this situation?

    true, but roku technically was in the situation that began the war. also i thought that he left his training for the next as soon as he mastered the element

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    hkulka2974 wrote:
    suss2it wrote:
    hkulka2974 wrote:

    suss2it wrote:
    We don't know because we haven't seen enough of the past avatars. The only reason Aang isn't taking years to master the elements, is because he doesn't have the time. Roku had no pressure and could take as long as he pleases, seeing as though there wasn't a worldwide war for him to prevent, by a certain date.

    true but it must take a large amount of skill to master the elements so quickly in such a short amount of time
    True, but who's to say that Roku couldn't have stepped up if he were in this situation?

    true, but roku technically was in the situation that began the war. also i thought that he left his training for the next as soon as he mastered the element
    No, it was only after Roku mastered the elements did Sozin start colonizing the Earth Kingdom.
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    Ashley11292

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    I voted: A lot less powerful

    But only because he hasn't had enough time to master all the elements like all the other Avatars.

    I'm hoping that in The Old Masters, Aang will become a hell of a lot more powerful.

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    I just have to say, probably a lot more powerful. Think about it. He was suddenly forced to protect the world from mass destruction at, technicaly, such a young age. (Minus the 100 years!) He has to master three more elements over the span of less than a year, and don't get me started on the finale. I honestly don't think we've even seen just how powerful he has trained to be. We will finally see Aang as a fully realized Avatar in the finale, and I think that might make our breaths stuck in our throats.

    "It is the combination of the four elements that makes the Avatar so powerful." -Iroh (209- Bitter Work)

    Edited on 07/17/2008 9:00am
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    suss2it wrote:
    hkulka2974 wrote:
    suss2it wrote:
    hkulka2974 wrote:

    suss2it wrote:
    We don't know because we haven't seen enough of the past avatars. The only reason Aang isn't taking years to master the elements, is because he doesn't have the time. Roku had no pressure and could take as long as he pleases, seeing as though there wasn't a worldwide war for him to prevent, by a certain date.

    true but it must take a large amount of skill to master the elements so quickly in such a short amount of time
    True, but who's to say that Roku couldn't have stepped up if he were in this situation?

    true, but roku technically was in the situation that began the war. also i thought that he left his training for the next as soon as he mastered the element
    No, it was only after Roku mastered the elements did Sozin start colonizing the Earth Kingdom.

    true but still look at roku when he left at the age of 16 and when he finished his training, theres a significant amount of time that has passed and i doubt roku laid back that much. atleast 20-30 years had passed.

    AvatarSensation wrote:

    I just have to say, probably a lot more powerful. Think about it. He was suddenly forced to protect the world from mass destruction at, technicaly, such a young age. (Minus the 100 years!) He has to master three more elements over the span of less than a year, and don't get me started on the finale. I honestly don't think we've even seen just how powerful he has trained to be. We will finally see Aang as a fully realized Avatar in the finale, and I think that might make our breaths stuck in our throats.

    "It is the combination of the four elements that makes the Avatar so powerful." -Iroh (209- Bitter Work)

    yeah we've still yet to see aang with the additional earthbending and waterbending training he's been through. and we've still yet to see his firebending. i still think he'll need another edge to overcome ozai though

    Edited on 07/17/2008 9:05am
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    hkulka2974 wrote:
    suss2it wrote:
    hkulka2974 wrote:
    suss2it wrote:
    hkulka2974 wrote:

    suss2it wrote:
    We don't know because we haven't seen enough of the past avatars. The only reason Aang isn't taking years to master the elements, is because he doesn't have the time. Roku had no pressure and could take as long as he pleases, seeing as though there wasn't a worldwide war for him to prevent, by a certain date.

    true but it must take a large amount of skill to master the elements so quickly in such a short amount of time
    True, but who's to say that Roku couldn't have stepped up if he were in this situation?

    true, but roku technically was in the situation that began the war. also i thought that he left his training for the next as soon as he mastered the element
    No, it was only after Roku mastered the elements did Sozin start colonizing the Earth Kingdom.

    true but still look at roku when he left at the age of 16 and when he finished his training, theres a significant amount of time that has passed and i doubt roku laid back that much. atleast 20-30 years had passed.

    AvatarSensation wrote:

    I just have to say, probably a lot more powerful. Think about it. He was suddenly forced to protect the world from mass destruction at, technicaly, such a young age. (Minus the 100 years!) He has to master three more elements over the span of less than a year, and don't get me started on the finale. I honestly don't think we've even seen just how powerful he has trained to be. We will finally see Aang as a fully realized Avatar in the finale, and I think that might make our breaths stuck in our throats.

    "It is the combination of the four elements that makes the Avatar so powerful." -Iroh (209- Bitter Work)

    yeah we've still yet to see aang with the additional earthbending and waterbending training he's been through. and we've still yet to see his firebending. i still think he'll need another edge to overcome ozai though

    roku took 14 years to maste all 4 elements he said it in 306, but the thing is, i really think aang is more powerful than the past avatars, cause he already LEARNED all the 4 elements 4 years BEFORE he should even know he is the avatar, but aang hasn't mastered the elements completely, i think he ain't no match for pakku in waterbending, or bumi in earthbending or iroh in firebending, but he still has A LOT of time to train.

    but the condition he has been put through made him stronger in my opinion, forced him to be stronger

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    andrep007 wrote:
    hkulka2974 wrote:
    suss2it wrote:
    hkulka2974 wrote:
    suss2it wrote:
    hkulka2974 wrote:

    suss2it wrote:
    We don't know because we haven't seen enough of the past avatars. The only reason Aang isn't taking years to master the elements, is because he doesn't have the time. Roku had no pressure and could take as long as he pleases, seeing as though there wasn't a worldwide war for him to prevent, by a certain date.

    true but it must take a large amount of skill to master the elements so quickly in such a short amount of time
    True, but who's to say that Roku couldn't have stepped up if he were in this situation?

    true, but roku technically was in the situation that began the war. also i thought that he left his training for the next as soon as he mastered the element
    No, it was only after Roku mastered the elements did Sozin start colonizing the Earth Kingdom.

    true but still look at roku when he left at the age of 16 and when he finished his training, theres a significant amount of time that has passed and i doubt roku laid back that much. atleast 20-30 years had passed.

    AvatarSensation wrote:

    I just have to say, probably a lot more powerful. Think about it. He was suddenly forced to protect the world from mass destruction at, technicaly, such a young age. (Minus the 100 years!) He has to master three more elements over the span of less than a year, and don't get me started on the finale. I honestly don't think we've even seen just how powerful he has trained to be. We will finally see Aang as a fully realized Avatar in the finale, and I think that might make our breaths stuck in our throats.

    "It is the combination of the four elements that makes the Avatar so powerful." -Iroh (209- Bitter Work)

    yeah we've still yet to see aang with the additional earthbending and waterbending training he's been through. and we've still yet to see his firebending. i still think he'll need another edge to overcome ozai though

    roku took 14 years to maste all 4 elements he said it in 306, but the thing is, i really think aang is more powerful than the past avatars, cause he already LEARNED all the 4 elements 4 years BEFORE he should even know he is the avatar, but aang hasn't mastered the elements completely, i think he ain't no match for pakku in waterbending, or bumi in earthbending or iroh in firebending, but he still has A LOT of time to train.

    but the condition he has been put through made him stronger in my opinion, forced him to be stronger

    i think he'd atleast be a match for pakku considering that katara was able to hold her own ground against him before she was a master. and considering aang was declared a master of waterbending a while ago (somewhere in S2 i believe) i think aang would now be atleast pakku's equal in waterbending

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    hkulka2974 wrote:
    andrep007 wrote:
    hkulka2974 wrote:
    suss2it wrote:
    hkulka2974 wrote:
    suss2it wrote:
    hkulka2974 wrote:

    suss2it wrote:
    We don't know because we haven't seen enough of the past avatars. The only reason Aang isn't taking years to master the elements, is because he doesn't have the time. Roku had no pressure and could take as long as he pleases, seeing as though there wasn't a worldwide war for him to prevent, by a certain date.

    true but it must take a large amount of skill to master the elements so quickly in such a short amount of time
    True, but who's to say that Roku couldn't have stepped up if he were in this situation?

    true, but roku technically was in the situation that began the war. also i thought that he left his training for the next as soon as he mastered the element
    No, it was only after Roku mastered the elements did Sozin start colonizing the Earth Kingdom.

    true but still look at roku when he left at the age of 16 and when he finished his training, theres a significant amount of time that has passed and i doubt roku laid back that much. atleast 20-30 years had passed.

    AvatarSensation wrote:

    I just have to say, probably a lot more powerful. Think about it. He was suddenly forced to protect the world from mass destruction at, technicaly, such a young age. (Minus the 100 years!) He has to master three more elements over the span of less than a year, and don't get me started on the finale. I honestly don't think we've even seen just how powerful he has trained to be. We will finally see Aang as a fully realized Avatar in the finale, and I think that might make our breaths stuck in our throats.

    "It is the combination of the four elements that makes the Avatar so powerful." -Iroh (209- Bitter Work)

    yeah we've still yet to see aang with the additional earthbending and waterbending training he's been through. and we've still yet to see his firebending. i still think he'll need another edge to overcome ozai though

    roku took 14 years to maste all 4 elements he said it in 306, but the thing is, i really think aang is more powerful than the past avatars, cause he already LEARNED all the 4 elements 4 years BEFORE he should even know he is the avatar, but aang hasn't mastered the elements completely, i think he ain't no match for pakku in waterbending, or bumi in earthbending or iroh in firebending, but he still has A LOT of time to train.

    but the condition he has been put through made him stronger in my opinion, forced him to be stronger

    i think he'd atleast be a match for pakku considering that katara was able to hold her own ground against him before she was a master. and considering aang was declared a master of waterbending a while ago (somewhere in S2 i believe) i think aang would now be atleast pakku's equal in waterbending

    i don't think pakku was really giving his best in that fight until he realised katara really wanted to take him down, then he just putted an end to it paralysing her. but yeah katara wasn't fully developed, now she is a true master and if there were to be a rematch i'll totally go for her

    yet aang isn't quite as good as katara is at waterbending because he hasn't got the time to be, but he has got the potential IMO

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    hkulka2974

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    andrep007 wrote:
    hkulka2974 wrote:
    andrep007 wrote:
    hkulka2974 wrote:
    suss2it wrote:
    hkulka2974 wrote:
    suss2it wrote:
    hkulka2974 wrote:

    suss2it wrote:
    We don't know because we haven't seen enough of the past avatars. The only reason Aang isn't taking years to master the elements, is because he doesn't have the time. Roku had no pressure and could take as long as he pleases, seeing as though there wasn't a worldwide war for him to prevent, by a certain date.

    true but it must take a large amount of skill to master the elements so quickly in such a short amount of time
    True, but who's to say that Roku couldn't have stepped up if he were in this situation?

    true, but roku technically was in the situation that began the war. also i thought that he left his training for the next as soon as he mastered the element
    No, it was only after Roku mastered the elements did Sozin start colonizing the Earth Kingdom.

    true but still look at roku when he left at the age of 16 and when he finished his training, theres a significant amount of time that has passed and i doubt roku laid back that much. atleast 20-30 years had passed.

    AvatarSensation wrote:

    I just have to say, probably a lot more powerful. Think about it. He was suddenly forced to protect the world from mass destruction at, technicaly, such a young age. (Minus the 100 years!) He has to master three more elements over the span of less than a year, and don't get me started on the finale. I honestly don't think we've even seen just how powerful he has trained to be. We will finally see Aang as a fully realized Avatar in the finale, and I think that might make our breaths stuck in our throats.

    "It is the combination of the four elements that makes the Avatar so powerful." -Iroh (209- Bitter Work)

    yeah we've still yet to see aang with the additional earthbending and waterbending training he's been through. and we've still yet to see his firebending. i still think he'll need another edge to overcome ozai though

    roku took 14 years to maste all 4 elements he said it in 306, but the thing is, i really think aang is more powerful than the past avatars, cause he already LEARNED all the 4 elements 4 years BEFORE he should even know he is the avatar, but aang hasn't mastered the elements completely, i think he ain't no match for pakku in waterbending, or bumi in earthbending or iroh in firebending, but he still has A LOT of time to train.

    but the condition he has been put through made him stronger in my opinion, forced him to be stronger

    i think he'd atleast be a match for pakku considering that katara was able to hold her own ground against him before she was a master. and considering aang was declared a master of waterbending a while ago (somewhere in S2 i believe) i think aang would now be atleast pakku's equal in waterbending

    i don't think pakku was really giving his best in that fight until he realised katara really wanted to take him down, then he just putted an end to it paralysing her. but yeah katara wasn't fully developed, now she is a true master and if there were to be a rematch i'll totally go for her

    yet aang isn't quite as good as katara is at waterbending because he hasn't got the time to be, but he has got the potential IMO

    now that hes had time to train he may be

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    suss2it

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    hkulka2974 wrote:
    suss2it wrote:
    hkulka2974 wrote:
    suss2it wrote:
    hkulka2974 wrote:

    suss2it wrote:
    We don't know because we haven't seen enough of the past avatars. The only reason Aang isn't taking years to master the elements, is because he doesn't have the time. Roku had no pressure and could take as long as he pleases, seeing as though there wasn't a worldwide war for him to prevent, by a certain date.

    true but it must take a large amount of skill to master the elements so quickly in such a short amount of time
    True, but who's to say that Roku couldn't have stepped up if he were in this situation?

    true, but roku technically was in the situation that began the war. also i thought that he left his training for the next as soon as he mastered the element
    No, it was only after Roku mastered the elements did Sozin start colonizing the Earth Kingdom.

    true but still look at roku when he left at the age of 16 and when he finished his training, theres a significant amount of time that has passed and i doubt roku laid back that much. atleast 20-30 years had passed.
    So what? I'm saying that Roku never had to learn all the elements before he had to, so we can't really say if he could have or not.

    AvatarSensation wrote:

    I just have to say, probably a lot more powerful. Think about it. He was suddenly forced to protect the world from mass destruction at, technically, such a young age. (Minus the 100 years!) He has to master three more elements over the span of less than a year, and don't get me started on the finale. I honestly don't think we've even seen just how powerful he has trained to be. We will finally see Aang as a fully realized Avatar in the finale, and I think that might make our breaths stuck in our throats.

    "It is the combination of the four elements that makes the Avatar so powerful." -Iroh (209- Bitter Work)
    That quote applies to all Avatars.
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    hkulka2974 wrote:
    andrep007 wrote:
    hkulka2974 wrote:
    andrep007 wrote:
    hkulka2974 wrote:
    suss2it wrote:
    hkulka2974 wrote:
    suss2it wrote:
    hkulka2974 wrote:

    suss2it wrote:
    We don't know because we haven't seen enough of the past avatars. The only reason Aang isn't taking years to master the elements, is because he doesn't have the time. Roku had no pressure and could take as long as he pleases, seeing as though there wasn't a worldwide war for him to prevent, by a certain date.

    true but it must take a large amount of skill to master the elements so quickly in such a short amount of time
    True, but who's to say that Roku couldn't have stepped up if he were in this situation?

    true, but roku technically was in the situation that began the war. also i thought that he left his training for the next as soon as he mastered the element
    No, it was only after Roku mastered the elements did Sozin start colonizing the Earth Kingdom.

    true but still look at roku when he left at the age of 16 and when he finished his training, theres a significant amount of time that has passed and i doubt roku laid back that much. atleast 20-30 years had passed.

    AvatarSensation wrote:

    I just have to say, probably a lot more powerful. Think about it. He was suddenly forced to protect the world from mass destruction at, technicaly, such a young age. (Minus the 100 years!) He has to master three more elements over the span of less than a year, and don't get me started on the finale. I honestly don't think we've even seen just how powerful he has trained to be. We will finally see Aang as a fully realized Avatar in the finale, and I think that might make our breaths stuck in our throats.

    "It is the combination of the four elements that makes the Avatar so powerful." -Iroh (209- Bitter Work)

    yeah we've still yet to see aang with the additional earthbending and waterbending training he's been through. and we've still yet to see his firebending. i still think he'll need another edge to overcome ozai though

    roku took 14 years to maste all 4 elements he said it in 306, but the thing is, i really think aang is more powerful than the past avatars, cause he already LEARNED all the 4 elements 4 years BEFORE he should even know he is the avatar, but aang hasn't mastered the elements completely, i think he ain't no match for pakku in waterbending, or bumi in earthbending or iroh in firebending, but he still has A LOT of time to train.

    but the condition he has been put through made him stronger in my opinion, forced him to be stronger

    i think he'd atleast be a match for pakku considering that katara was able to hold her own ground against him before she was a master. and considering aang was declared a master of waterbending a while ago (somewhere in S2 i believe) i think aang would now be atleast pakku's equal in waterbending

    i don't think pakku was really giving his best in that fight until he realised katara really wanted to take him down, then he just putted an end to it paralysing her. but yeah katara wasn't fully developed, now she is a true master and if there were to be a rematch i'll totally go for her

    yet aang isn't quite as good as katara is at waterbending because he hasn't got the time to be, but he has got the potential IMO

    now that hes had time to train he may be

    Are you kidding? There barely is any time to train anymore! Remind me again how close the comet is? Only the gaang doesn't exactly know it. Aang IS a master Waterbender. Katara said it, and it said it on the back of the S2 V1 DVD. Also, Katara sai that the Avatar has to master the elements in order before going on to the next one. (order: Water, Earth, Fire). He has to master his native element first. It's only natural that since he's going on to firebending that he's mastered earthbending, right?
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    paoros16

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    I say a little weaker because of the fact that the other Avatars had their whole lives to master the four elements while Aang has only about half a year. But I think Aang will be a powerful Avatar.
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    i say hes the worst of the bunch only because he kinda only had less then a year to master the elements
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    Baudelaire_Boy

    [20]Jul 17, 2008
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    the fact is that he might seem weaker because of his age, as how he is now I believe any past avatar could beat him. However, once he reachs his full maturity on both phisycal and spiritual, he might become the most powerful avatar yet to exist, because of the same fact that he has mastered all the 4 elements much more sooner that any of his past lives.
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